Democrats defy Pelosi, elect Hoyer House leader

[rodeodance]

geech,crappy headline.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061116/pl_nm/usa_congress_leaders_dc

Democrats defy Pelosi, elect Hoyer House leader

By Thomas Ferraro and Richard Cowan 1 hour, 7 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A week after winning back control of the U.S. Congress, Democrats in the House defied incoming speaker Nancy Pelosi on Thursday and bypassed a vocal
Iraq war critic to elevate her moderate deputy to majority leader.
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It marked an embarrassing first defeat for Pelosi, a California liberal who had endorsed Rep. John Murtha (news, bio, voting record) of Pennsylvania, a key player in the anti-war effort that helped Democrats sweep to power in the House of Representatives and the Senate.

The secret vote behind closed doors was 149-86.

Democrats embraced Hoyer, a Maryland moderate who has been Pelosi's deputy while she served the past three years as minority leader. The two have had a somewhat strained relationship.

Pelosi, as expected, was officially nominated to be the first woman speaker of the House. A vote by the full House will be held when the 110th Congress convenes in January.

[texpatriot2004]

1. Bad news for Madam Speaker nm

[SouthernBelle82]

9. How so?

All Pelosi did was support Murtha. She didn't say they had to support him just that she was. It's still called democracy right?

[Robbien]

2. Carville, Emanuel and Malkin are all giggling like crazy.

Score
One for the DLC
Zero for Middle class America

[texpatriot2004]

3. Yep! nm

[redqueen]

5. Oh well.

[Virginia Dare]

11. 146 of the Democrats in Congress are jerks?

if that's the case then we are in real trouble. I don't see it that way though. They weren't voting for any particular policy, agenda, or ideology, they were voting for a leader. Someone they would have to deal with on a day to day basis. Nothing more.

[redqueen]

14. I just despite the DLC

After reviewing Hoyer's record, I'm really fine with it, so I edited to reflect my opinion about Hoyer's nomination, and not my opinion about the whore DLC.

[Virginia Dare]

15. The DLC is a political machine...

one of the currently necessary evils of the business of Washington. I hope that the new leadership really gets serious about campaign and ethics reform. If not, they won't be in power very long.

[redqueen]

16. Agreed on reform.

Glad that cleaning up the lobbying mess is the first item on Pelosi's list.

[k_jerome]

6. jeez. wahh. nt.

[4morewars]

4. Bussiness as usual,

nothing to see here, move along folks.

So much for our 'revolution.'

[texpatriot2004]

7. "Pelosi's not in control of her Dems" nm

[Straight Shooter]

12. Not true. They chose her Speaker by unanimous vote.

Just goes to prove that Dems have their own voice. They are not a lockstepping echo chamber like the GOP. Which, by the way, the GOP leadership is even more divided. How about that Lott vote, 25-24. Heh. ;)

edit to add, they can disagree with Pelosi yet still support her strongly.

[texpatriot2004]

18. I wasn't talking about her being elected. That's what people

will say because she endorsed Murtha (rightly so IMHO) and her "Dems" chose Hoyer.

[Straight Shooter]

20. Yes, but I don't care "what people say."

My retort is that they still support her, and do not march in lockstep like the GOP. And again, even the GOP is more fractured. Which I consider a good thing. The echo chamber mentality is disastrous for this country.

[texpatriot2004]

23. You're alright Straight and I think that's a good point you have

about the "echo chamber" mentality.

[Straight Shooter]

25. You're alright, too.

And just because I disagree with you once in a blue moon, I still recognize that you have a valid perspective even when we don't see eye-to-eye.

:hi:

[texpatriot2004]

26. Thanks and BTW you're perspective is valid too nm

[4morewars]

19. How is 149-86 unanimous ?

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=unanimous

u‧nan‧i‧mous  /yuˈnænəməs/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective
1. of one mind; in complete agreement; agreed.
2. characterized by or showing complete agreement: a unanimous vote.

[Straight Shooter]

21. Unanimous vote for Pelosi as Speaker.

I am familiar with the word "unanimous." :hi:

[4morewars]

22. Ooops, my bad.

Sorry.

:spank: <---- me getting a spanking.

[Straight Shooter]

24. Hey, I've done it, too.

Stop that spanking! :7

[xultar]

8. I'm really disappointed. I like Murtha.

[saskatoon]

27. Murtha

Yeah, I liked him too until I read about him and his brother suspicious stuff and also him being against Abortion.

[xultar]

28. Being against abortion as a personal belief isn't wrong. Preventing choice

is wrong.

Lots of Dems are against abortion. But most of them respect a woman's right to choose.

Get it straight. The real issue is whether or not a person respects a woman's right to choose.

[patrice]

10. Defy? Typical MSM BuShit!

[jpwhite]

13. we still are going to get a lot done

We are still going to get a lot of good stuff done like

1) raising the minimum wage
2) providing oversight into spending in Iraq
3) making changes to the prescription drug plan
4) finding a permanent solution to Iraq

The dems are going to lead by helping to make America great again and we finally have a female
Speaker of the House. She is in the # 3 spot as far as leaders go in America. That's progress.

James
[e-mail]

ps. Now we need to really get wild and start breaking the barriers as far as the White House is concerned. Why haven't we had a female as pres or VP? What about someone who is african-american or latino? Something to think about....

[Peace Patriot]

17. Can I ask a dumb question? Why is the old Congress choosing the new

Congress' leaders?

[otohara]

29. Pelosi Is The Media's New Al Gore

they will diss her every damn day.

[let us vote]

30. I wonder if this is a sign of things to come.

Let's watch and see if someone more charismatic takes the lead behind the scenes.

[ProSense]

31. More charismatic than who: Hoyer? n/t