F* You Dobbs! Where I live Hispanics/Latinos are building Road/McMansions

[KoKo]

and Mansions and working for Contractors doing Rehabs on old houses their employer/contractors can sell for many times their worth by putting in granite counter tops and stainless steel appliances. They "re-roof" our houses and take care of our lawns in my booming area of the Southeastern USA. They are "nannies" to the kids and cook our meals in restaurants when we need that weekend break or for our daily "business lunch."

And, I see Kenyans and other South Africans manning our convenience stores when I go to buy gas or look at my grocery store check out person here in my Booming part of the Southeastern USA. Everywhere I go I deal with folks who speak very good English yet have an "accent" that says where they are from and it isn't Bush's USA...USA...USA!

I go to Target or J.C. Penney or other department stores and my shoes are made in CHINA or India. My clothes are made in VIETNAM! (didn't Cheney/Rummy and others say that leaving Vietnam would cause the country to go into RUIN?). And, when my clothes aren't made in Vietnam they are made in Malaysia, India, Khazakstan, countries in UAI's that I've never heard of and Rumania, Cambodia and if you check your labels...every place in the world we've BOUGHT OFF to invade Iraq or through the IMF to forgive debts for support for Bush Failed Policies.

Look at what you buy and where it's MADE and tell me we are not in DEEP S**T for NOW and FOREVER under NAFTA/GATT and the rest of our foreign policies under ALL our PRESIDENTS FOR DECADES...because of WAR!!!

Lou Dobbs preaches hate in a nicely tied up package of Sweets and unlike Annie Coulter...he gets away with it because he strikes to what is REALLY BOTHERING AMERICAN MIDDLE CLASS....He skates and goes for the "emotions" that the MSM (controlled by Corporatists knows is out there) but if you scratch the surface of his "dimpled smile" you see nothing more than a Media Shill who sucks us in with "Faux Populist Headlines," as he sucks us in to corrupt our minds.

EDITED TO ADD:
BTW, LOU! Most of us couldn't afford to be Good Consumers and support our GDP and Credit Card Companies if we didn't rely on this CHEAP LABOR to LIVE in AMERICA TODAY! Most of us would be "panhandling" asking if "buddy can spare us a dime." :banghead:

[FrenchieCat]

1. Thanks for the Rant! I agree wholeheartely with it! n/t

[LiberalCommiePinko]

2. Hear Hear,

I really hate that douchebag Dobbs.

[tblue]

3. I volunteer at a nonprofit where Mexican immigrants come to learn English

so they can apply for citizenship. Every last one of them works a full 9 or 10 hour day and then spends 4 nights a week in Citizenship classes. They are there trying to do the right thing, to follow all the laws, to meet all the requirements this country asks of them. I have never met a more sincere, more hardworking, more optimistic, more patriotic people in my life. I defy ANYONE to disrespect them or turn them away! How I wish more Americans were as appreciative, as diligent, as courageous, principled, and determined as they are.

[KoKo]

4. I know...and I also know they wouldn't be here if there wasn't

a "labor need" for them to keep our cost of living down because the interest rates are so much higher than the Bushies want to admit...

It's not that there's not a problem...but blaming the problem on "immigrants" who work as cheap labor has always been the EXCUSE of Governments to use innocents against FAILED Policies.

Americans have hated the Germans, Irish, Italians, Latvians, Polish and every other group we imported to do our labor for us as the "classes" moved up in America.

Lou has hit on the fact that the "classes" aren't moving through the "system" like they used to "moving ever upward" because of the Bushies and Clinton and Reagan's Corporatist policies coming home to roost.

So now we blame those who clean the latrines and clerk in the store....and tell folks who've been downsized that the Hispanics/Latino's are taking the jobs.

I don't disagree that there's some resentment that's warrented....but it's Bush Policies and those before him who did it. Blaming the VICTIM instead of the POLICY that has pitted downsided and layed off American workers against immigrants is just ALL WRONG. It breeds hatred in the wrong places. We need POLICY adjustments to deal with this FAIRLY and not this WARFARE that Dobbs instigates every night...in his kindley dimpled way with his smiles and seemingly "advocate for the middle class" rhetoric. Dobbs has long ago left the middle class lifestyle...like Russert/Blitzer/Drudge and the Print DC Media and the other cable and Network folks who make millions...and think that they did it through their own talent and pulling up their bootstraps for hard work.

We are so fucked up...with our Enfotainment Media.....They could sell folks working two or three jobs anything just from the snips one has to listen to everywhere there is a teevee on with an Enfotainment Anchor blairing and selling the Bushco Wares.

[Mountainman]

5. The best thing going for a lot of Americans is the ability to scape goat

immigrants who work harder than they do to get ahead. While all these cry babies sit and wail about the influx of foreigners taking their livelihoods away, the foreigners are preparing themselves for the real world they face. The cry babies moan that the world they knew is gone. Yep, it's gone alright and it ain't coming back. So what are you going to do about it? Sitting on your butts blaming everyone else for your misery will only keep you on your butt. You better get up and learn to compete or be left standing on the sidelines. Go get a skill someone is willing to pay you for and shut the fuck up!

I learned yesterday that my boss is fucking me over. He is taking the things that make him look good and shoving down to me the things that make him look bad so it is me who looks bad and not him. He is more powerful than me. I was pissed and bitched and moaned about it for a long time but there is nothing I can do about it but to do my job the best I can and to handle the shitty things better than he could ever have. In the long run he will be on the short end of the stick.

[pampango]

8. Dobbs is a protectionist and isolationist.

He opposes immigration, but also opposes outsourcing of American jobs. Seems to me that he prefers to see the US as an economic island.

My wife is Filipino and I lived in the Philippines for several years. I support immigration for both humanitarian and economic reasons. Humanitarian in that they are poor people coming here to work hard to improve their lives and have few such opportunities back home. They are willing to work harder, longer and with less protection than most of us will, so there is some resentment, but they are no "more sincere, more hardworking, more optimistic, more patriotic people" anywhere. Economic in that immigrants keep wages lower, prices cheaper and crops harvested.

In one sense we "lose jobs" whether a new factory is located in the US and staffed by immigrants from Mexico or located in Mexico and staffed by Mexicans, if the alternative was a factory in the US staffed by Americans.

If the new factory is in the US, rather than Mexico, then our economy would benefit from the wages spent in the local economy. If the factory is built in Mexico, it benefits the Mexican economy and its development more, again because the wages are spent in the local economy.

While I am in favor of increased immigration, for humanitarian and economic reasons, I realize that there is a downside to many things in life. The downside to an increased supply of low-skilled workers, from any source, is that is puts downward pressure on the wage levels that employers are willing to pay for low-skilled workers (supply & demand, you know).

[Lydia Leftcoast]

12. And I've noticed that most of our Habitat for Humanity projects

here in Minneapolis are for immigrants from Southeast Asia, Latin America, or Africa.

In order to get a house, the potential residents have to put in 700 hours of labor (as a household) along with the volunteers, and some of these immigrants are so excited about this that they volunteer more.

Perhaps the immigrants look at the requirements and say, "Only 700 hours to get a house!" and the native-born Americans say, "Seven hundred hours to get a house? That's too much!"

[itcfish]

6. I Am Sick

and tired of Lou Dobbs rantings. First thing, I am not Hispanic nor a memeber of any minority group. I am lilly white, and I find Dobbs blatant racism very disturbing. When he says the Mexicans bring diseases into this country, I want to cringe. You want to stop illegals from coming, stop corporations from hiring them and let our military protect our borders. If illegals get into this country in such large numbers, it is because someone wants them here. Thank you for listening to my rant.

[Lisa]

11. they used that "diseases" argument against the Irish, the Jews, the Asians

... and you're right, itcfish -- it is cringe-making! I was looking at some old newspapers from a century ago, and the people who opposed immigration (and strengthening civil rights for the whole society) trotted out that same line. There were fake "astroturf" groups and paid-for "expert scientists", and self-serving media hucksters back then as well -- going on about how immigrants carried cholera and TB, and how they would infect the rest of the country. (Funny how people got well as soon as they started earning decent salaries, thanks to labor reform, and weren't being forced to live in crowded poorly-serviced slums, thanks to anti-discrimination laws and enforcement of building codes.)

[ACK]

7. Worker explotiation forgotten in this debate.

We need a new Ellis Island and the stream of immigrants from Mexico to be properly documented.

Not because of some dumbass disingenous arguement about security. Not because of the vieled racism inherent in most of the illegal immigrant debate.

Right now all those workers you describe are being exploited by big companies for shit money and no benefits. Undocumented workers are quite frankly the greatest saddest and most troubling source of worker exploitation in our time. And not just Latino workers but Asain workers in big city sweatshops not in China but hidden in our own American cities.

Once again we are being dupped by the big money taking advantage of the little guy.

We have to reform immigration in this country. These citizens must have legal status so they can have the protection of law to defend them against being dicked over by all the restaurants, construction companies and other business forces trying to pull one over on the American people and the latino populace in this country as well.

We have to embrace this wave of immigration in a legal documented fashion and find a way to give legal status to the undocumented immigrant population already here.

[Sapere aude]

9. I agree with you. If we don't allow them citizenship then our laws allow

there to be this underclass that pulls down wages for all. Give them citizenship, reform the wage laws, work together with them to form unions and a better living standard for all.

An organism who is faced with a hostile environment learns to adapt or dies. Some learn to change the environment from hostile to comfortable. Right now, those who are anti immigrant are the ones on their death beds.

[KoKo]

10. Forgive me...but I'm gonna do a vanity kick here for this post because

while I applaud Lou for doing Election Posts his "other stuff" sort of cancels him out....and his "Immigration Stuff" has this "WASP" in a melt down over what I see as a "Tit for Tat" pandering to cover his RACISM!

There are better folks than Lou Dobbs to report on this stuff IF...IF...IF...we had an INDEPENDENT MEDIA!!!!!

sorry for my "vanity kick." Just needed to do it.

[doc03]

13. I see you are from the south and probably a "Right to Work"

state and can't comprehend the concept of collective bargaining. This country's race to the bottom began in the 60 and 70's when unionized industry started moving to the "Right to Work States" for cheap labor. Well after a few years the people in the south were too expensive to pay so big business dreamed up NAFTA so they could undercut those wages. Now even the people in Mexico don't work cheap enough for them and they are moving to China. I live in the north and there are thousands of people here that would be more than happy to work on your Mc Mansions down south for a good paying job with health insurance. But we have people exploiting illeagal aliens so they can get cheap labor.

[Imagevision]

14. And then there's the story of the illegal immigrant killing Texas cop last

week, -- Two illegal aliens breaking and entering raping and robbing a 58 year old woman --
duh! some illegal immigrants are ok and some are not too cool, sorry, no statistics.