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liberaliraqvet26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 10:28 AM
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Rep. Walter Jones (R-NC) is a good man.
I just watched him as the only Republican who attended the Democratic Policy Senate hearing and questioned the generals. He serves in a district that is very military oriented and has probably taken a lot of heat for taking this principled stand. He has seen the error of his ways (freedon fries) and admitted it. While I probably disagree with him on almost everything, we need more people like him in the congress.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 10:29 AM
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1. We don't endorse republicans here
wrong board.
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liberaliraqvet26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 10:31 AM
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2. I wasnt endorsing him, Im commending him for a principled stand.
I just so happened to watch him just now on CSPAN and as a veteran of this unjust war thought he deserved an applause.
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 10:36 AM
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3. I agree. Congress needs more like him. (hopefully w/o the "R")
But if all "R's" had his attitude, at least the administration would be held accountable.
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RufusEarl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 10:36 AM
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4. This is not the first time Jones has stood up for principals.
and i agree we need more like him in congress of both strips.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:33 AM
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11. No kidding
Edited on Sat Sep-30-06 11:33 AM by depakid
There are plenty of Dems these days who could learn a lesson from this.

Assuming that they can learn at all- which after these past 6 years a reasonable person would have to question.
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Lindsay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 10:36 AM
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5. I agree with you, liberaliraqvet26.
Mr. Jones has impressed me with his very principled stand on the war. And I applaud his genuine service to his constituents in demanding the truth, rather than supporting the party line and party lies.

This is what conservatives were like when I was a little girl...which was a LONG time ago.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 10:43 AM
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6. I can't applaud any republicans
As long as they align themselves with the most corrupt party and the worst president ever, I can't endorse or support any of them. Just yesterday we found out that a republican congressman had an innappropriate relationship with a teenage boy and his party leadership has known about this for A YEAR. They did nothing to investigate or to protect this young boy from a predator.

On Thursday, the republicans rammed a torture bill through Congress.

They voted to support an illegal and immoral war.

If this man had a conscience, he would abandon his party.

I live in red state hell and two of our highest profile republicans have left the republican party. I praise and support them for this brave decision. Let me know when this republican you praise leaves the corrupt republican party. Then he will get my support.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 12:11 PM
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15. 99% of the time, I'd be right with you on that
Gosh knows we have enough threads on these boards trying to undermining the Democrats. I'll make a (rare) exception for Walter Jones,Jr., though. There's a Republican in California, Pete McCloskey, who I was really hoping could win his primary. A great guy, but unfortunately he lost to Richard (ugh!) Pombo. McCloskey's now endorsing Pombo's Democratic opponent, Jerry McNerney. http://www.jerrymcnerney.org/
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choop Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:53 PM
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26. ?
Why don't you endorse Republicans here?
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 10:47 AM
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7. An honorable player on a team of lowlifes
He needs to come to the light. The pubs have nothin to offer him.
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:16 AM
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8. Yes, he is a principled man...
He was originally very supportive of the war, and has spoken out consistently since seeing the error of his ways.

I think he may be very conflicted right now about his party. With some careful nurturing, he might could be induced to switch, IMHO. Particularly now, with the whole Foley mess, and even more evidence of lies and deception by the criminals in this administration. He's got the courage to be the only R to show up at those hearings, and has been firm in his stance on the war since his enlightenment. I wouldn't be surprised if he was completely unaware of the Foley thing. I've wondered how he's been treated by his party since his change of view. He would never be a liberal, but I'd take a moderate Democrat over an R anytime.
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liberaliraqvet26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:19 AM
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9. I have heard a number of rumors about party switchers....
from people that work on the hill. I hope he is one of them, we are and should remain a big tent party. We have people like Murtha & Casey who are socially conservative but economically liberal and I believe this is good for the party.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 12:03 PM
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14. He used to be a Democrat
He switched affiliation when he ran for Congress in 1994. His father, Walter Sr., was a long-term Democratic congressman in that part of N.C.
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 12:35 PM
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30. Interesting, I did not know that
My impression was that he was very right-wing until he saw the body-bags coming home from Iraq and then he woke up.

He is still very conservative on a number of issues, but I do have to give him props because his stand against the war is very courageous. He represents a district that is very Republican and the chances of a Democratic victory there are very slim. I think DUers should be fairly happy with Jones because he is a hell of a lot better than any other person that district would be likely to elect.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:28 AM
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10. hmmmmmmm.......
Dunno. Seems like an extreme flip-flopper to me. From freedom fries to repentance for Iraqi Freedom. Schizy. I wonder how much he reflects his constituency?
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:41 AM
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12. His district...
Edited on Sat Sep-30-06 11:49 AM by ms liberty
is on the eastern coast of NC. Has military bases, and coastal, a mix of rural and smaller cities and towns, IIRC. It is also an area that was originally settled by French Hugeonots...I know this because my husbands family originally came from that area of NC, and are of that descent. We live on the other side of NC, in the foothills, very red 5th district - I have that disgusting hag, Virginia Foxx. I'd much rather have him!

edit to add: Just checked, he's in the 3rd district, which is one of thosee that is shaped really oddly.
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NJ Democrats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 09:14 PM
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23. I live here in his district
Lots of coast guard, people from Norfolk-area and Northerners (like myself) as well as natives and lots of god-damn Rebel flags. But it is a very rual area. the biggest town, Elizabeth City (where part of the movie the Guardian was flimed) has 15000 or so people.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 10:26 PM
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25. Wilson is in his district
though we are split and Greenville is in his district though it is split (both have some people in Butterfields district too). Both cities are much bigger than 15k. I am one of his Wilson constituents.
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NJ Democrats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 08:27 AM
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28. I didn't realize that the district went that far out.
I'm up near Virginia east of Elizabeth City.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:59 AM
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13. I agree with you. Jones is one of few Republicans I like.
Yes, he was behind the "freedom fries" fiasco, etc. But he's reliably anti-free-trade (a scourge of our nation's economy), much more so than even some of our own Democrats. And it's a rare thing in today's politics for a Congressman to humble himself in public the way he did re. Iraq.

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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 01:11 PM
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16. Walter Jones will not vote for a Democratic Speaker!
We do NOT support Republicans on this site!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 04:15 PM
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17. Thank you!!
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fuzzyball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 12:24 AM
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27. Let's face some facts....we are STILL the MINORITY party
hopefully that will change in November. But regardless of that
unless we win a 2/3rd majority in both houses, an extremely unlikely
event, we need good legislators from the repubs. We don't have to vote
for them but we gain nothing by putting them down and making them our
mortal enemies. That is not a smart way to operate and survive in a
dynamic democracy.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 04:17 PM
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18. He's a man that the Democratic Led Senate can work with across
the aisle. For attending this Democratic Policy Senate hearing he has my respect. He is probably one of the few Republicans that have searched within themselves and is making amends, I hope. ;) :hi:
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 04:33 PM
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19. We need to speak up and commend Republicans when they do the right
thing. Their Republican colleagues won't do it and perhaps getting some love - regardless from where - will encourage them to do it more often. Democrats need to help Republican moderates take back their party - a Democratic majority can get a lot done with the help of a strong liberal/moderate Republican wing - as we did in the 1960s on civil rights.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 05:19 PM
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20. I live in his district
and he will be Congressman for as long as he wishes. He has done the right thing on a few issues, social security, the war, and a few others. He is also about as anti gay as it gets. He is against nearly all abortion. In short he is a social reactionary.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:06 PM
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21. If he's so good, let him register as a Democrat. THEN I'll give him the
time of day.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 12:22 PM
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29. I agree
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NJ Democrats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 09:11 PM
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22. Jones is my Congressman
He while I appricate his postition on Iraq, he stands w/ Bush, Hastert and the rest on everything else. And I will encourge people to vote for and will endorse Craig Weber, whose is Jones's opponent.
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NCarolinawoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 09:38 PM
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24. He voted against the torture bill.
I have many relatives in that area who like him a lot.

I don't know if you heard about that House Armed Services hearing when Richard Perle and Wes Clark confronted each other. It was at this hearing when Jones stood up and emotionally confronted Neo-con Pearle and demanded that he and Bush apologize for lying to the American people.

I always keep up with the North Carolina Congressional votes---THE NEWS AND OBSERVER prints these out every Sunday. Jones sides with the Dems on many issues. A lot of his environmental votes are good. The Republican Machine has been really mad at him at times and threatened to run someone against him in the primaries but they gave up on the idea because the guy is too popular.

My guess is that if the Dems took control of the House, Jones would be one of the ones who would switch parties.
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