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Human Torch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:19 PM
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Gonzales to SCOTUS: Constitution makes Bush God...don't FUCK with him.
Gonzales Cautions Judges on Interfering

By MICHAEL J. SNIFFEN
The Associated Press
Friday, September 29, 2006; 12:18 PM

WASHINGTON -- Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, who is defending President Bush's anti-terrorism tactics in multiple court battles, said Friday that federal judges should not substitute their personal views for the president's judgments in wartime.

He said the Constitution makes the president commander in chief and the Supreme Court has long recognized the president's pre-eminent role in foreign affairs. "The Constitution, by contrast, provides the courts with relatively few tools to superintend military and foreign policy decisions, especially during wartime," the attorney general told a conference on the judiciary at Georgetown University Law Center.

"Judges must resist the temptation to supplement those tools based on their own personal views about the wisdom of the policies under review," Gonzales said.

And he said the independence of federal judges, who are appointed for life, "has never meant, and should never mean, that judges or their decisions should be immune" from public criticism. "Respectfully, when courts issue decisions that overturn long-standing traditions or policies without proper support in text or precedent, they cannot _ and should not _ be shielded from criticism," Gonzales said. "A proper sense of judicial humility requires judges to keep in mind the institutional limitations of the judiciary and the duties expressly assigned by the Constitution to the more politically accountable branches."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/29/AR2006092900511.html
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:22 PM
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1. What Cracker Jacks box did Alberto get his degree out of?
He is such a huckster.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:23 PM
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2. This might curl your toes... Oh, and FUCK Gonzales.
Gingrich Urges Overriding Supreme Court

September 29, 2006
Gingrich Urges Overriding Supreme Court

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Supreme Court decisions that are ''so clearly at variance with the national will'' should be overridden by the other branches of government, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich says. ''What I reject, out of hand, is the idea that by five to four, judges can rewrite the Constitution, but it takes two-thirds of the House, two-thirds of the Senate and three-fourths of the states to equal five judges,'' Gingrich said during a Georgetown University Law Center conference on the judiciary...

Gingrich, a Republican who represented a district in Georgia, noted that overwhelming majorities in Congress had reaffirmed the Pledge of Allegiance, and most of the public believes in its right to recite it. As such, he said, ''It would be a violation of the social compact of this country for the Supreme Court to decide otherwise and would lead, I hope, the two other branches to correct the court.''

In 2002, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in California ruled that the pledge was unconstitutional when recited in public schools because of the reference to God. The Supreme Court in 2004 reversed that decision on a technicality, but the case has been revived. Gingrich said ''the other two branches have an absolute obligation to render independent judgment'' in cases that are ''at variance with the national will.'' He spoke at Thursday's panel discussion on relations between the executive, judicial and legislative branches of government.

Former Senate Democratic leader Tom Daschle of South Dakota, who spoke on the same panel, noted the high court's 5-4 decision settling the contested 2000 presidential election in favor of Republican George W. Bush. ''What if Al Gore had said I don't agree?'' Daschle asked. ''In a sense, what we did was put the court in the position of the American people. We were giving the court the power to make the decision for the American people based on their best judgment and I'm not challenging the judgment. I accept it, too, even though I disagree.''

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-Gingrich-Scotus.h...
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Human Torch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:31 PM
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5. What a train wreck of bad ideas...
...and wow, did Daschle pick a bad example. I know it illustrates the principle, but placing Junior on the throne and "accepting it even though I disagree with it" reminds me of the scene in Salem's Lot where James Mason tells David Soul to "FACE THE MASTER..."

They had a deal, but it was a deal with the devil.

Daschle's example also left out Katherine Harris, Jeb Bush and Diebold. He probably disagrees with but accepts them too.

:patriot:
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:24 PM
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3. What a total crock of shit !!!!
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SledDriver Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:29 PM
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4. Correction...
The Constitution makes * commander in chief of the Armed Forces.

It does not make him CIC of the civilian populace. The repuke Congress and my two war-crime-accessory-after-the-fact-torture-voting NJ senators did that.

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muesa Donating Member (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:37 PM
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7. Bush thinks that in "war time" the whole body politic is in the army--
Yeah?
  1. No gas rationing
  2. No price or wage controls
  3. No surtaxes - heck there's even tax breaks for the wealthy


He is only CIC of the military -- and he screwed that up too.
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SledDriver Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:43 PM
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8. He should read the Constitution....
:rofl:

Yeah, right. * read? Maybe we could get him a copy of The Constitution in pictures.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:34 PM
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6. Tell Torquemada to shut up
and turn himself in to The Hague.
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:45 PM
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9. An expansion of their talking point
I'd expect to hear more of this one in the near future. Oh, and Daschle is part of the problem.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:59 PM
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10. Gonzo must have the "other" version of the Constitution...
You know, the one that said the President can do whatever the f*ck he wants and the rest of the country has to take it up the ass.

Who do these ignorant pieces of shit think they are? Isn't there a class called "Constitutional Law" in law school? Maybe Gonzales was sick that day.

This would be funny if it wasn't so terribly sad.
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