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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 08:07 PM
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What Rethugs would've done if Clinton called them the "cut & run" party...
Tomorrow on the steps to Congress, they would flood out and hold a press conference just in time for the evening news. In this group would be military veterans. This would include both current office holders and those running for office. A handful of war veterans would be in front and be chosen to speak. And during this speech they would directly challenge the honor and bravery of those who make these types of statements.

So imagine this tomorrow on the evening news:

Kerry, Murtha, Hackett, Clark, Duckworth and all other military veterans in this crowd. Each of them give a short speech with people like Kerry and Murtha directly challenging the service of Bush and Cheney and dare them to continue calling Democrats the party of "cut and run".

But sadly, this isn't going to happen because the Democrats still don't get it. In this current world, when some asshole like Bush/Cheney calls you a coward, you hit back and hit back hard and the only way to do it is to embarrass them and embarrass them big time.

I'm so sick and tired of seeing so many Democrats afraid to take the fight right to these assholes. (Little bit a frustration here - thanks for the rant opportunity).
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 08:20 PM
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1. Just imagine a world where they stood on the steps and
said "I, as a loyal American who loves and supports our Constitution, do NOT support Torture in any form or fashion. And then, after everyone has had their turn speaking this line, sing God Bless America. What a message that would send. Hell people, do something outrageous. Grab the limelight. Get seen. You are letting Repugs set the tone and run the game. DO SOMETHING OUTRAGEOUS.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 08:24 PM
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2. That's the kind of thing
exactly that they need to do instead of cringing in fear at being called names. No matter what people think about an issue they want to see their elected officials standing up for something. If they can't defend themselves how can they defend us is the unconscious message. There was plenty that they could have been attacking on, defending the basis of our being on. Choosing not to for purely political reasons just furthers the whole idea that they are all the same anyway. They have to dare to be different.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 11:26 PM
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8. Impeach Bush banners do wonders for local news on the freeway
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 08:26 PM
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3. They'd be swiftboated - as they have been.
You don't seem to understand the role of the corporate media.
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 08:52 PM
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4. So what? They are vilefied at every turn, its time to take
control and stop playing defense. They learned NOTHING from Big Dawg.
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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 11:32 PM
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9. BS....
I can recall numerous times when the Dems were in office and the Rethugs pulled this sort of thing and were covered on all three networks.

I get so tired of the left whining about the "corporate media".

All it would take is for the Dems to throw out a press release about an event and it would go.

Besides, just the other day some political reporter remarked that the media does not want an election year blowout - they want a horse race. Controversy, blood and guts is what drives the media more than the so called "corporate media".

If a loud enough bang is made, people will turn to look at it - even if it is just for a short sound bite.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 12:37 AM
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11. Did this "political reporter" have any facts?
Or was it just his own worthless opinion?
I don't whine about the corporate media - I do get tired of people whining when I point out the facts. Wishful thinking isn't going to win any elections. Sorry to wake you - go back to sleep.

"The latest survey of think tank citations—which is based on appearances in major newspapers and TV and radio transcripts that appear in the Nexis database—found that 40 percent of such citations in 2005 were to conservative or center-right groups, 47 percent were to centrist groups and only 13 percent were to center-left or progressive groups."
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2897
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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 04:07 AM
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12. Sorry, woken back up....
You don't have to cite FAIR reports to me; I've been reading FAIR for quite some time; I also read many other publications that cite the same sort of stats you mentioned.

It just gets tiring hearing the same drone of "corporate media" instead of doing things that people like Eric Alterman suggest, i.e. "work the ref" et cetera.

As for the reporter's "worthless opinion" about wanting to cover a horse race vs a blow out, come on, get some realism. That is just plain common sense - do you really think a bunch of craven reporters would rather report on a blow out versus that of something close? Heck, it wasn't me who invented the saying about "if it bleeds, it leads" (or "if it bleeds, it ledes").

Hm, what is it that Hightower keeps encouraging Dems to do? Think it is called "agitate".....
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:14 PM
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5. Amen, that's why the angry white guy listens to
Rush Limpballs, Oliely, Savage and the rest, they perceive them as telling it like it is!
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:17 PM
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6. And they would get press coverage. Our Dems wouldn't. If a tree
falls in the forest and no one hears a sound ... ???
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:18 PM
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7. I'd pay to see that
Sadly, it is unlikely to happen.
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 12:00 AM
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10. I remember their attacks against Clinton and LBJ..
Democrats had no exit strategy, yet Democrats "should never have dared to deploy our soldiers in uniform without an exit strategy". Weren't Republicans worried once about our military forces being used as a world police force? but with Bush in power we need to police the world! :eyes: so where is the Republican exit strategy and why did they call us "cut and run Democrats"?

hmmm, maybe they don't want to admit never having an exit strategy for Afghanistan or Iraq!
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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 01:06 PM
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13. And what do we get?!? I want to scream!
Yesiree....

Turned on MSNBC and some Senator's came on out and spoke about.....Woodward's book. Even though we are getting good stuff from Woodward's book, this is just want the Dem's refuse to acknowledge and it wants to make me scream. Levin gets up and makes some good points, but appeared passionless (his comments were best suited for Charlie Rose's show) then Jack Reed got up and said good stuff, but with no passion.

The other day Chimpy gets up and calls the Dem's the party of "cut and run" and we let it go. THIS is the Swiftboat crap all over again.

Don't these folks realize why Murtha has resonated with so many Americans? The days of the "deliberative" and well studied Senate are over; they have to get mad as hell, show emotion and push these people back to their chickenhawk coops again and again.

Please, Sen Levin and Reed, go to Youtube and watch a few of Keith Olberman's comments. This is where it is at.
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