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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 08:50 AM
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NYT to Condi: We've "Kept Some of Your Secrets"
NYT to Condi: We've "Kept Some of Your Secrets"

Earlier this week Condi Rice met with the editorial board of the New York Times and since it was an on-the-record chat, the State Department has made a transcript of the talk available for the public to read on the web.

I found the most compelling part of her chat to be when an unidentified person from the Times said the paper has not divulged some of her secrets, which seems a rather odd thing to admit to a high-ranking government official.

Of course, I would like the Times to eventually print some of those secrets, and the sooner the better, if the paper is ever going to make the secrets public.

Revealing the secrets may do much to affect change not just in the Middle East, but indeed, for America's entire approach right now to foreign politics.

http://mpetrelis.blogspot.com/2006/09/nyt-to-condi-weve-kept-some-of-your.html

(full transcript available)
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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 08:52 AM
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1. Why would someone mention that in an "on the record" talk?
Edited on Thu Sep-28-06 08:53 AM by woodsprite
Wouldn't that be akin to the Times bringing it up as an insurance policy? Or trying to prompt someone to start digging and asking questions.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 08:56 AM
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3. I don't know, very bizarre imo..
Is their game this far off after BC smashed their image publicly?

If it is true, then Bill Clinton has created a Tsumani heading towards Pennsylvania Ave!
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 08:52 AM
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2. Haven't read the transcript ...
On a superficial level, just with the reading of the article..

A good investigative journalist has plenty of material here
for research and follow up..
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 09:03 AM
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4. Personal secrets or political secrets?
I bet that they are being whispered in Washington.

My grandparents knew a couple, the husband half of whom had been a minor official in the Eisenhower administration. This couple had stayed in Washington after retirement, and we visited them just a few months after the Kennedy assassination.

The wife told us all the stuff about the Kennedy White House that is now common knowledge, such as the state of JFK's health and his little adultery problem, but which was not public knowledge then. Granted, she was a Republican, but the Republicans weren't as vicious then, and time has proven that the information was accurate.

I wonder how many elderly Washington gossips know exactly what Condi's secrets are.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 09:53 AM
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5. Wait...I 've got an Excedrin headache ...
after reading the transcript.

Reading her response was like the malaise you suffer on a never-ending ride
at an Amusement Park and your only relief from the dizzying ride, into horizontal
world, coming from the interviewer.

The Secrets? Definatley closed door sessions at the WH relating to ME Policy..
Apparently, NYT officals are not releasing a full view of the status of the US
occupation and the full reason relating to why we went to war in the first place.

{aside}

Condi is definately fixated on the number 3..
Her pov's reside in 3's

very odd, to say the least..
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 08:35 PM
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6. ....
:dem:
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freethought Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 12:40 PM
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12. Probably both types of secrets!
Edited on Fri Sep-29-06 12:42 PM by freethought
For all we know Condi could be leading a double life. My guess is the reason the Times hasn't spilled these beans is because they are more of a personal and private nature than a political one. If they did roll them out it would be too easy by the right-wing media to paint the Times as a sleazy tabloid or engaging in a partisan attack, especially given the problems NYT has had the last few years.

Sometimes it is a good idea to let those in power that others know things about them that they don't want to become common knowledge.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 05:48 PM
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15. From the transcripts..
Her statements seem jagged, rough and not borne out as first hand knowledge when describing the players.
Her statements resemble a script, where she's been superficially briefed on the positions relating to the
unique factions in Iraq and the collective rendition of the supposed strategy in place. Her descriptions
mimic Karen Hughes, erratic pulp, condensed into a line of wholesale propaganda geared to satisfying the masses.

I don't know what personal info the NYT can have on Condi, she profiles out as a sheltered loaner content to
live in the safety of a world of her own making, music. Unless, when she chugs down two Coronas, raises the
freak flag, she's turns into a black Madonna.

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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 09:32 PM
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7. Maybe it's a secret she is gay...or that bush is really her husband.
Laura is just pretending.

A :kick: for tell.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 06:41 AM
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8. Big Surprise! Bob Woodward's Book..
Private Secrets left at the NYT are most likely the
contents of Bob Woodward's book due out on Monday.

An excerpt reported this am on nbc:

"Rumsfeld was not speaking to Condi. Rez, would have to take messages."
"Insurgency so BAD in Iraq, civilians/soldiers are dying every 15 min."
"Kissenger, WH adviser for Iraq War. Memories of Vietnam revisited."

Tra-La-La-La-La La-La-La-La!

ps..

WARNING...

Do not read Condi's transcript before meals..

:crazy:
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 07:59 AM
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9. Your allegedly "Liberal Media" in action
One again, the Screw York Times shows it's true face; the face smeared with brown lipstick from kissing so much Bush ass.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 11:51 AM
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10. Now that wasn't nice!
But I love mean truthiness people! :bounce:
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 11:59 AM
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11. Condi's secret is out. She has plastic slipcovers on her sofas. No kidding
Saw in on Oprah.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 01:29 PM
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13. They sat on the spying story for a year
A year which coincidentally included the 2004 election. Presumably there are other stories out there that the Times doesn't feel we Americans are mature enough to deal with should they get out. Because a newspaper's job, you know, is to keep secrets for the administration.

:sarcasm:
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 01:46 PM
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14. Newspapers sometimes make deals
not unlike plea bargaining.

A source will give them A, B and C off the record. The reporter or an editor might then ask, after being refused all three, "We'll let you keep C if you go on the record with A and B."

Sometimes it's the only way we find out anything.
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