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auburngrad82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 12:56 PM
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Bush is Not Incompetent
A very interesting piece from George Lakoff and the Rockridge Institute, one of the few liberal thinktanks in operation today. Read the article. It explains why the problem is much worse than just George W Bush and why it's important that we remove the Conservatives from office:

http://www.rockridgeinstitute.org/research/lakoff/incompetent

Bush Is Not Incompetent

Document Actions by George Lakoff, Sam Ferguson, Marc Ettlinger

Progressives have fallen into a trap. Emboldened by President Bush’s plummeting approval ratings, progressives increasingly point to Bush’s “failures” and label him and his administration as incompetent. Self-satisfying as this criticism may be, it misses the bigger point. Bush’s disasters — Katrina, the Iraq War, the budget deficit — are not so much a testament to his incompetence or a failure of execution. Rather, they are the natural, even inevitable result of his conservative governing philosophy. It is conservatism itself, carried out according to plan, that is at fault.

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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 12:59 PM
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1. He's a highly competent and soulless criminal. In other words...
...a mainstream Rape-publican.

Thanks for posting this! B-):thumbsup:

NGU.


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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 01:02 PM
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2. It's pre-planned evil
Iraq is just one example. Bush never talked about his secret plan to invade Iraq in his 2000 campaign. Likewise, he never mentioned Social Security privatization in 2004.
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auburngrad82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 01:37 PM
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7. Actually, if I remember correctly
there was a moment during one of the debates where Junior stated that the military was not there to act as a police force, they were there to fight. A glimpse of what the conservatives had in mind...
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 01:02 PM
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3. Dear Leader = poster child for DSM-IV's "Antisocial Personality Disorder"
Edited on Tue Sep-26-06 01:07 PM by ShortnFiery
It's NOT a legal defense because people with this disorder live in the real world and can tell "Right" from "Wrong." They just believe that THE RULES should NOT ever apply to them. :thumbsdown:

"Antisocial personality disorder is a psychiatric condition characterized by chronic behavior that manipulates, exploits, or violates the rights of others. This behavior is often criminal."

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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 01:44 PM
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8. Like torture is criminal for everyone who directs it/does it/votes for it?
and an insult to everything good about America for Amerikans who support it?
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 02:11 PM
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10. If we didn't have to counter the Corporate Media, IMO, it would be
Edited on Tue Sep-26-06 02:11 PM by ShortnFiery
fairly simple to get the TRUTH - that Torture is not only inhumane but it's ineffective - across to the people.

Unfortunately OUR Corporate M$M is actively helping to keep the American People frightened and in the dark - unenlightened. :grr:

They support Republicans because they can, under Republican Rule, be allowed to consolidate even more. Certain parts of The M$M Media is as CRIMINAL in it's promoting of Propaganda as The Executive Branch.

The Mega-Wealthy USA Oil Conglomerates are driving down gas prices on purpose. The last thing they want is for Democrats to get elected and actually REGULATE these ultra-greedy corporations.

The Irony is that those Right Wing Working Class men (and some women) who truly NEED their large Pick-up Trucks for work, are much better served by The Democratic Congress who would keep gas prices in check through thoughtful regulation of the run away profit Oil Companies.

Further, despite what that horse's a**, LaPierre preaches to you, The Democrats will NOT take away our guns. Gee, many of us dyed in the wool Democrats LOVE our Firearms too. :P
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 03:26 PM
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13. If W got similar treatment from the MSM as the big dog, ratings would
likely be in the big dick range, if not lower.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 01:11 PM
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4. I do not believe that Bush is very bright. Cheney is in charge of this...
Whitehouse. Bush is but the mouthpiece for the conservative movement. Bush is a true conservative in the classical sense, just as Cheney is.

It is time for us to take down "Conservativism" just as they have taken down "Liberalism".
The difference being that "conservativism" is fundamentally a bad philosophy designed to maintain the status quo of the 13th Century.
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auburngrad82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 01:35 PM
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6. The high gas prices and massive profits by big oil is pure conservatism
Edited on Tue Sep-26-06 01:35 PM by auburngrad82
Let the market determine the prices, that's the conservative mantra. Never mind that it's not the market, but greed by an industry that knows people have to pay whatever they charge.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 02:47 PM
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11. The point is, it benefits us to point at Cheney's** evil...
Edited on Tue Sep-26-06 02:49 PM by ClassWarrior
...and it hurts us to point at Bush's** dullness.

NGU.


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Spearman87 Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 03:18 PM
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12. But Bush is not even close to Conservative!
......in the classical sense!

And the closest group he might be called a “mouthpiece” for is the Evangelical Movement. I’ll grant you that he is a social conservative. But he is a Fiscal Big Spender, and in foreign policy has his fingers meddling in situations all over the globe (not all of it has been bad; some African initiatives good) . Isn’t that diametrically opposed and antithetical to classic conservatism? He’s 2/3 liberal :), just not spending the money on causes liberals like or meddling internationally in the way liberals would like! I see hard line conservatives bemoan this fact behind closed doors all the time.

If he was truly conservative he would have much more support/respect than he does. When it comes to spending and foreign policy, Clinton was more classically conservative than Bush.

But Bush is I guess the first true Neocon President, since Neocon thought and writing has long been in favor of international involvement and attempting to shape the world to their liking (Either that or he is the first Neo-Liberal President)
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auburngrad82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 06:50 AM
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14. Conservative in the classical sense doesn't apply
He's conservative in the Neo-conservative mold. That's where the danger lies. The neocons want to do away with all programs except the military. Free market to them means everyone needs to fend for themselves. And let's not forget the plan to dominate the rest of the world through our military might. Oh, wait, we're "spreading democracy."

The roles of conservatives and liberals have reversed over the years. Liberals now tend to be much more fiscally responsible. Conservatives are now the big spenders. The largest government in history is Dubya's. He broke the record held by another "great" conservative, Reagan. Clinton's government decreased in size and Bush's has ballooned.

Remember the Iran/Contra affair? Reagan, a conservative, was great at "meddling" in international affairs. I seem to remember that the Reagan administration also behind a mosque bombing in Lebanon that killed about 200 people (the official target was a radical cleric that Reagan wanted removed). Today that would be labelled terrorism. When's the last time a liberal actively practiced terrorism?

As far as being a mouthpiece for evangelicals, there is very little in the neocon playbook that can be considered even remotely Christian. The only reason evangelicals support them is that they believe that the GOP will ban abortion. And we all know that ain't gonna happen. If they did that then they would lose the one thing they can count on to bring out the votes for them.



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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 01:28 PM
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5. If you're not bright enough to have
developed a better underlying governing philosophy, you're incompetent. bush* is incompetent, although I agree with the main point: so is that brand of conservative thought.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 01:47 PM
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9. Well Duhhh
It wasn't Bush* that stood in front of Congress and said Clinton's budget would bankrupt America or that Clinton was obsessed with catching Bin Laden. It was the GOP heavy hitters and have they ever been indicted for incompetence. Every single thing they have been saying for a decade now has been proved not to be true.. Bush* is just the current one in front of the nation...The whole damn ideology is bankrupt..
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