Here's the Clinton plan Rice says he didn't leave for Bush

[wyldwolf]

Hart-Rudman

The bipartisan 14-member panel was put together in 1998 by then-President Bill Clinton and then-House Speaker Newt Gingrich, R-Ga., to make sweeping strategic recommendations on how the United States could ensure its security in the 21st century.

http://web.archive.org/web/20010920045449/http://www.mipt.org/srchnatlstrat03272001c.html

...and the whole sordid story:

http://archive.salon.com/politics/feature/2001/09/12/bush/

and another version:

http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/nssg/Reports/reports.htm

[savemefromdumbya]

1. Therefore she is in fact a lying toad

(sorry toads)

[tridim]

5. Who's going to call her on it? The media?

:rofl:

This is why Clinton's Fox Newz performance was so important.. It's forcing BushCo to spew more outrageous (and easily provable) lies in an attempt to cover their asses.

[babylonsister]

11. I sincerely hope Clinton has something to say about this. This

admin is vilifying him; he needs to defend himself.

[savemefromdumbya]

26. day by day the GOP is unravelling

[opihimoimoi]

2. The Bush Team Shit Canned the Report because they were too VAIN

The Bushies PUT VANITY in front of the US Community.

The Bush Team wanted no part of anything the Clintons pushed.

They feared not being in the spotlight if something GOOD came out of it.

The Bush Team wanted the whole STAGE...they wanted to be Quarterback and Reciever at the same time to reap ALL OF THE GLORY.

BUSH is a VAIN GUY...It was Vanity that killed the WTC and all those in IRAQ.


VANITY KILLS.....Bush is VAIN....one of the 7 SINS

[Canuckistanian]

3. Yup. They almost changed all the calendars to the year "0"

They had no sense of history, pragmatism or common sense.

It was going to be a new era.

[ComerPerro]

4. BushCo's excuses sound like the same pathetic lines that

probably got him through school.

"Yeah, uh, I read the report, I just, uh, forgot what was in it becasue it wasn't important".

"Yeah, I've already done that, you must have just lost it."

"Well, I didn't do the assignment because you didn't assign it to us."

"Look, it doesn't matter who wrote my papers and took my tests. The point is, they are done"

[K8-EEE]

6. She Thought They Were "Historical Documents"

Somewhere in the "bowels of the agency."

LYINC SACKS OF SHIT! Bush did NOTHING to prevent 9/11. SCREAM IT FROM THE ROOFTOPS -- IT'S TRUE AND IT'S FINALLY OUT THERE BEING SAID. And long overdue!

[Supersedeas]

30. If it happened prior to her morning workout--then it's history.

[GeorgeGist]

7. If life is a test...

do you have any fear that Condi will graduate?

[Beaverhausen]

8. Send this to Keith Olbermann now

since he is the only one out there telling the truth

[babylonsister]

12. Done! nt

[chieftain]

9. I guess the question is what "comprehensive" means.

These lying bastards have been playing word games from day 1 of the regime. Reporters who supposedly hate being lied to have stood there time after time, been told obvious falsehoods and recorded them as fact. I hope the corporate media realizes that they have squandered their credibility on behalf of a gang of dishonest, immoral, inept crooks.

[AtomicKitten]

10. Excellent compilation, wyldwolf.

K&R :)

[Parche]

13. rice

Condoloser Rice-A-Roni is lying thru her TEETH

[jenmito]

18. It's not hard for her to do...

Have you seen that big space between her teeth?

[DeepModem Mom]

14. Thank you -- K&R.

[Liberal Dose]

15. I hope this stunt keeps blowing right back in their fat ugly faces.

Chris Wallace was hired to carry out the hit, but I don't think it went as planned. :evilgrin:

[dback]

16. Did Carville and Begala reference this on "Today" this AM?

If not, shame on them--it's another Smoking Gun against the Bush administration's ineptitude.

[demo dutch]

21. Carville said "of course there was a plan"...but no further details

[ChiciB1]

23. WHAT IS Carville's Problem Lately??? He Doesn't Seem To

have much fight in him and seems almost too tired to respond. At least when I've seen him, that's how he looks. I could be wrong because I KNOW he's a Hillary supporter!

[ms liberty]

17. This report was in the news during the 2000 campaigns...

I remember this clearly. It was all over the news about the report being released and it's findings, which were that our biggest and most dangerous threat was from a terrorist attack. The news actually was discussing it, and kept having experts on, particularly in the time leading up to, during, and after the national security debate. During those debates, Al Gore said he'd implement the recommendations, and that he agreed with the report. The Decider said that he agreed with the report, and that was why we needed to end the IBM Treaty, and build a missle defense shield (the fucking asshat - excuse my language!).

One reason I remember this so clearly is that I was trying to "turn" a couple of my co-workers. The day after this debate, I can remember standing in the outdoor break area and LITERALLY jumping up and down, saying "how can anyone vote for him - he wants to build a star wars missle defense shield when the experts are saying we're going to be hit by terrorists, that terrorism is our biggest threat!"

On 9/11 that scene was the first thing I thought of when I heard about the WTC. I've often wondered if those two women I was talking to that day remember what I said. By 9/11 I wasn't working with them because I had been laid off from that job right after Christmas. I've never seen them since, even though I live in a small rural area. One of them is a fundie type, and I imagine she'd never admit I was right.

[oasis]

19. Condi didn't have time to absorb all that. Piano lessons were a priority.

:puke:

[Totally Committed]

20. Raw Story has just printed a story AND the actual documents:

Raw Story: 2001 memo to Rice contradicts statements about Clinton, Pakistan
Larry Womack

Excerpt:

A memo received by United States Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice shortly after becoming National Security Advisor in 2001 directly contradicts statements she made to reporters yesterday, RAW STORY has learned.

"We were not left a comprehensive strategy to fight al Qaeda," Rice told a reporter for the New York Post on Monday. "Big pieces were missing," Rice added, "like an approach to Pakistan that might work, because without Pakistan you weren't going to get Afghanistan."

Rice made the comments in response to claims made Sunday by former President Bill Clinton, who argued that his administration had done more than the current one to address the al Qaeda problem before the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks. She stopped short of calling the former president a liar.

However, RAW STORY has found that just five days after President George W. Bush was sworn into office, a memo from counter-terrorism expert Richard A. Clarke to Rice included the 2000 document, "Strategy for Eliminating the Threat from the Jihadist Networks of al-Qida: Status and Prospects." This document devotes over 2 of its 13 pages of material to specifically addressing strategies for securing Pakistan's cooperation in airstrikes against al Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan.

Entire story AND scans of the Actual documents:

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/2001_memo_to_Rice_contradicts_statements_0926.html

TC

[Jacobin]

22. We should ALL mail her copies of it

Tens of thousands of copies, so she'll be buried in them.

Probably not too late to look at them, either

[Imagevision]

24. Rice should be called on the Clinton False claims statement!!

Poiticians shouldn't be able to make "false statements"

[blondeatlast]

25. Nice work, wyldwolf! And reputable sources, too.

This is one of the reasons that I love DU!

Eat poo and bark at the moon, Condi, you lying twit.

K&R.

[oasis]

27. Condiliar should stop lying and start reading.

[calimary]

28. SEND THIS TO KEITH OLBERMANN!!! Sorry to yell, but...

I just GOTTA!

We're discussing it here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2848730

[ellacott]

29. This is Their Latest Defense

They claim that the comprehensive plan wasn't comprehensive enough. This is from the State Dept's daily briefing :eyes:

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QUESTION: I just wonder if I can go back quickly to the previous topic. The Secretary made another comment yesterday when she was talking about the fact that there wasn't a blueprint or strategy of some sort that Clinton left behind after he left office. Was she talking about a specific single document or was she talking about a (inaudible) -- because Richard Clarke was still in the White --


MR. MCCORMACK: Right.


QUESTION: -- he had, if there were any such blueprint, probably he wrote it and he was still there when she got to the White House. So I'm just a bit confused of whether she --


MR. MCCORMACK: You can go back and this is all --


QUESTION: Right. Commission --


MR. MCCORMACK: 9/11 Commission flashback at the moment. There is -- look, you can go back and look at the record of the 9/11 Commission. There's -- what they're referring to is the so-called Delenda Plan. It was transmitted I think in a January 25th, 2001 memo that was taken up. It was received at the deputies committee meeting, I believe in a meeting in February or March of 2001. They took a look at this plan and decided that they needed -- there were missing components who had basically -- you know, at its most basic, you needed to have a regional strategy not just dealing with Afghanistan, per se, but you had to deal with other issues like Pakistan and how Pakistan relates to Afghanistan, how Pakistan relates to India. So you had to deal with this comprehensively.


So that might have been what was being referred to. And I would just note that Dick Clarke himself in an interview with journalists while he was at the White House said that there was nothing new. There was no new plan, so that's in his own words.


Yes. Go ahead.
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2006/73167.htm