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annm4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 01:14 AM
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Democratic candidate in MN speaks out against Torture bill
Retired FBI whistleblower, Coleen Rowley post this on her website last night.
her opponate, Rep John Kline is co-sponsering Bush's bill.
Coleen's website if you care to donate is http://www.coleenrowley.com/index.php
(we need to find out and support current Senators and Reps, and candidates who are speaking out, it isn't like the media is going to report it)

A Missed Opportunity for Accountability
(The following was co-authored by Coleen Rowley and David Bailey)

After an all-day meeting with Dick Cheney yesterday, Republican Senators McCain, Graham and Warner emerged to proclaim that they had reached a compromise with the administration on military tribunals and interrogation tactics. McCain expressed "no doubt that the integrity and the letter and the spirit of the Geneva Conventions have been preserved," and Graham insisted it will "take off the table things that are not within American values."

They should know better.



Of the three major flaws in the bill Bush originally presented to Congress, only one has been removed: suspects will have the right to examine the evidence against them, subject to existing rules designed to protect national security. Protection against arbitrary and indefinite incarceration was not part of Bush's proposal, nor is it in the compromise bill. And despite powerful rhetoric about "the integrity and the letter and the spirit of the Geneva Conventions," Bush got his way on that as well. Abuses which were never under discussion --- murder, mutilation and rape, for example --- are now explicitly prohibited; otherwise the President decides what can happen. In other words, this bill would explicitly allow the interrogation practices used at Abu Ghraib, so long as George Bush approved them.

As a 24-year veteran of the FBI, I know that using rough interrogation tactics to overbear a suspect's will is not only wrong ethically, it is ineffective. Subjecting someone to pain and humiliation doesn't compel them to tell the truth; it compels them to say whatever will make the pain stop. This generates bad intelligence. Moreover, when we undercut the Geneva Conventions, we eliminate any motivation for our enemies to treat our captured soldiers humanely. Our goal must be to first disrupt, then detain, interrogate, and prosecute those who would do us harm while remaining true to the rule of law and the principles which have served our country well for more than two centuries. Effective interrogation and intelligence-gathering is not at odds with established legal principles as Bush and Cheney would like us to believe. This is why the FBI forbids the use of torture and rough interrogation methods (like waterboarding), as does the Army Field Manual and the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

In more than five years since 9/11, Bush's military tribunals have not tried, much less convicted anyone of acts of terrorism against the United States. It is well past time to try those in custody, punish the guilty, and release the innocent. The existing framework for military tribunals is sufficient to this task. But Bush's goal is neither justice nor security; it is power. This bill was clearly introduced as a political ploy in an election year. High political drama you might say when, whatever legislation eventually emerges, Bush can always "interpret" it to his liking via a presidential signing statement, as he has done nearly 1000 times during his presidency. Among these, the most notable was the Detainee Treatment Act --- the last bill on which McCain, Graham and Warner appeared to stand up to Bush.

But now these Senators have decided to compromise, to support legislation which trusts George Bush to do the right thing. Under any other president, this might be acceptable. But George Bush has led this country into war under false pretenses, put incompetent political appointees in charge of rebuilding Iraq, and used the war as a vehicle to transfer billions of American tax dollars to his corporate cronies with no oversight. George Bush is the man who gave us Abu Ghraib. And he has repeatedly demonstrated that he is willing to trade our American values for two more years in power. Yet instead of exercising their Constitutionally-mandated oversight, this Republican-led Congress, and especially my opponent in November's election, John Kline, has chosen to trust in Bush again and again and again.

Enough is enough. Voters need to hold the GOP lapdogs accountable for their weakness in November, so that a Democrat-led Congress can spend the next two years demanding accountability from George W. Bush.

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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 01:22 AM
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1. Yeah! A person running for Congress who remembers what it means to be an
American and what our founding fathers in the Constitution wanted defended!

:applause:

Sorry, I just had to say it...I'm so disgusted right now in any politician who doesn't speak out against this disgusting and un-american effort to legitimize torture...
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annm4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 01:25 AM
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2. I know they are out there,
WE just have to check their sites and call their offices and
post it on the DU.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 01:30 AM
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3. why can't the incumbents speak out against torture
thats what bothers me.

Chavez says what our representatives should be saying.

Maybe we should vote out most if not all incumbents.

Definitely the DLC crew must go.
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annm4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 01:33 AM
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4. Are we sure they haven't ?
I'm sure some are speaking out. Senator Dayton from MN office told me Dayton would not vote for torture and strongly opposes it.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 02:22 AM
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5. Some basics about Rowley
24-year retired FBI agent. Time Magazine's 2002 Person of the Year (along with 2 other whistleblowers). She was the person in the Minneapolis field off screaming to DC, trying to get a warrant to seach Zacarious Mousaoui's home and computer (he was arrested in Minnesota, remember). Some idiot named Marion "Spike" Bowman was the head of the FBI's National Security Law Unit, and he rejected the warrant applications and was giving confused and inaccurate legal information that the Star Tribune called "patently false".

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FBI Director Mueller personally awards Marion (Spike) Bowman with a presidential citation and cash bonus of approximately 25 percent of his salary. Bowman, head of the FBI’s National Security Law Unit and the person who refused to seek a special warrant for a search of Zacarias Moussaoui’s belongings before the 9/11 attacks, is among nine recipients of bureau awards for “exceptional performance.” The award comes shortly after a 9/11 Congressional Inquiry report saying Bowman’s unit gave Minneapolis FBI agents “inexcusably confused and inaccurate information” that was “patently false.” Bowman’s unit also blocked an urgent request by FBI agents to begin searching for Khalid Almihdhar after his name was put on a watch list. In early 2000, the FBI acknowledged serious blunders in surveillance Bowman’s unit conducted during sensitive terrorism and espionage investigations, including agents who illegally videotaped suspects, intercepted e-mails without court permission, and recorded the wrong phone conversations.

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Bowman, BTW, got a nice presidential citation and a 25% bonus for "exceptional performance" by Bush. Nice, huh? I guess there's really good money to be made in screwing up and getting thousands of people killed, right?

Anyway, she blew the whistle on the FBI's inaction after ZM was arrested in August 2001 (after the infamous Presidential Daily Brief and before 9/11 attacks, we must note). Now she's running in 2nd Congressional District againt incumbent John Kline, one of those 85%-Bush voters.

And, of course, she's running an uphill battle against an incumbent, so she can use whatever cash you can spare. (hint hint hint)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coleen_Rowley
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?id=1521846767-74
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 02:24 AM
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6. good.
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 02:27 AM
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7. I have a strong feeling that Karl Rove is quarterbacking...
Kline's campaign. he is at least actively advising Kline....
Rowley will need all the help, and money she can get...

Kline is the one who told the Burnsville Chamber of Commerce early in 2003: "There is absolutely no doubt that Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass destruction."

draw your own conclusions..
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 02:31 AM
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8. Go, Colleen! Such a brilliant and loyal American, and great candidate!
We can only wonder what these "indefinitely detained" and tortured prisoners know about the Bush Cartel. That's my suspicion--that, not only are they trying to protect their own asses from prosecution, by legalizing Bush's criminal decisions, but they are trying to cover up what the torture was used FOR. And I simply do not believe that the Bush Junta gives a crap for our "safety" or acted for that purpose. They would only risk prosecution for profit, or as a coverup of very serious evildoing.

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Bust the Machines--Vote by Absentee Ballot this November!
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 03:13 AM
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9. If she had been allowed to do her freakin' job by the FBI
9/11 could possibly have been prevented. Unfortunately, now we hear that TORTURE could have prevented it. I trust someone who knows about the REAL problems facing our intelligence in counterterrorism.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 04:41 AM
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10. Coleen rocks. I gave her $1K, and I hope anyone who cares about Democracy
will give her as much as they can afford. She's really quite a remarkable woman.

Rock on, Co!
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annm4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 03:06 PM
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11. Kline came up from Texas,
so you know he was sent by Karl Rove.
the local media doesn't give her much attention. I went to the Murtha rally with around 200 people, mostly veterans and I didn't see any news coverage.

Coleen is the real deal, several of the DLF candidates are so the GOP is spending a lot of money here. Hopefully our grassroots door knocking and truth from the candidate can out do the GOP>
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