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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 10:37 PM
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Maria Cantwell is officially winner. Hong Tran concedes defeat.
http://www.nwasianweekly.com/20062439/tran20062439.htm

:cry:

It is unfortunate that we are reduced to very few choices in our elections. Unfortunately, I am going to vote for Cantwell but I am definitely not happy about it. Cantwell has to stop supporting anymore of Bush's adventurisms abroad (Meaning...NO MORE WARS!) as well stop supporting pro-corporate, labor busting treaties, and any Bush-inspired Patriot Act changes. She also has got to be more forceful against any further Bush Supreme Court appointees. In other words STOP being a Cafeteria Democrat, Maria. Don't just fight the neocons on just a few pet issues. Go for the jugular!

I still think Hong Tran would have been a far better candidate because she is a fighter. We need more like her in Washington.

Now all will be revealed in November whether Cantwell gets to keep her job.

Of course, I know there are going to be people out there that are just going to post the same tired, one-dimensional response of "At least Cantwell is better than McGavick." For crissakes, people. Think outside of the box for once! People like Cantwell are weakening the Democratic Party. Doesn't anybody get this? Will losing the next two elections going to finally get it through anybody's heads that we can no longer act "Republican Lite"? Gawd! I am getting sick of this! :puke:


John
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 10:40 PM
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1. Latest Rasmussen poll only shows her up by 6% against McGavick
I can't directly post it because I don't have a subscription to the premium section, but do not take that Senate seat for granted!
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 10:41 PM
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2. If you are going to vote for Cantwell,
you might as well stop vomiting now.
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 10:46 PM
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4. Vomiting isn't the only thing I am doing.
I am doing this also....

x( :mad: ;( :eyes: :crazy: :wtf: :argh: :hurts: :grr: :shrug: :cry: :banghead: :rant: :hide: :yoiks:


I think that pretty much covers it.


John
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 10:49 PM
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5. try this
It might dull the pain.

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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 10:55 PM
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8. This is what you should be doing.

:toast: :thumbsup: :applause: :applause: :applause: :party: :7 B-) :D

Because the candidate you supported didn't have a chance against McGavick and the Republican machine
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 11:00 PM
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10. Not with you there!
Edited on Sat Sep-23-06 11:01 PM by Cascadian
I am a lefty and I make no apologies about it. There are a lot of Democrats who are under this misguided stigma that if we go to the left that we will lose. That's just garbage! How many elections have we won since 1994? The DLC/Republican Lite crap has got to go! We need to be fighters and progressive ones at that!


John
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 11:31 PM
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13. What we need to do is learn not to fight each other.
Edited on Sat Sep-23-06 11:32 PM by pnwmom
The Republicans have figured this out, but too many of us are still living in a dream world.

Dino Rossi almost became our governor, because many people in this state are very conservative, and because too many votes weren't being counted. We're extremely fortunate that our Secretary of State, a Republican, performed with some integrity, despite all the pressure from his party. If we had had a Katherine Harris here, Rossi would be our governor.

What we should do now is stop arguing the fine points of our candidates and and work for non-fraudulent elections. That should be everyone's biggest concern right now.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 10:45 PM
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3. Congratulations Maria!
She is 1000 times better than Mike McGavick and much better than that Non-Democrat Joe Lieberman.
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 10:51 PM
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7. Hear we go again.
Of course she is better than McGavick only by a slim margin. Cantwell only acts conservative on most issues while McGavick is a conservative. Both don't want our troops to come home from Iraq. Think about that. This is Cantwell's election to lose. Don't believe me? Look at the recent poll. I am no fan of McGavick but Maria Cantwell has to stop acting like a poor imitation of a Republican. How many times must I point out the old tried and true Harry Truman quote? Why do you think I am using it as a signature?

Wake up people! This DLC business must go!


John

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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 10:50 PM
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6. Why can't you get it through your head that Cantwell is anything but
Republican lite?

McGavick supports staying in Iraq as long as it takes. Cantwell supports getting out, beginning now.

Cantwell is solidly pro-choice. McGavick is pro-life.

Cantwell is pro- gay rights. McGavick isn't.

Cantwell has worked to protect the Alaskan Wilderness. McGavick is on the side of Sen. Ted Stevens of Alaska, who wants to open the Wildlife Refuge up to oil drilling. McGavick is being funded by the mining industry -- who have given Cantwell no support at all.

Washington is a divided state, split down the middle between Democrats and Republicans. No candidate who met your purity test would be able to carry the whole state. Cantwell is doing a good job and we should all support her.

The alternative -- losing another Democratic slot in the Senate, and to a sleeze like McGavick -- is too terrible to contemplate.
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 10:57 PM
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9. What are you talking about???
Cantwell STILL wants the troops in Iraq! Just like Hillary Clinton, she does not want an immediate withdrawal. Hong Tran was in favor of bringing the soldiers home now.

Okay so she is in favor of the environment. Great!

Cantwell's pro-choice. Great too!

Cantwell wants gay rights. I am in agreement with that!

However what about Cantwell's stance on free trade? The Patriot Act? How about her inaction towards Judges Alito and Roberts? You somehow forgot to mention those.

Look, I am not saying all that Cantwell is done has been bad, but that does not get her off the hook in regards to those other positions I mentioned. There is no litmus test done. I want my Congresspeople and Senators to fight the whole Neocon agenda. Not play a Cafeteria Democrat. Once again! Wake up and smell what they are shoveling!


John

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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 11:25 PM
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11. Cantwell supported the Reid amendment, which favored a planned
withdrawal from Iraq, beginning at the end of this year. McGavick supports Bush keeping troops in Iraq for "as long as it takes."

There is a huge difference between Cantwell's OVERALL voting record and the positions that McGavick supports. Progressive Punch rates her at an 88% on Progressive issues. Just two points below Patty Murray's score. And this in a state that is split half and half between Dems and Republicans. Meanwhile, the American Conservative Union scores Cantwell as an 8% on conservative issues.

Yes, there are a handful of Dems with more perfect score's than Maria's. But the major national conservative organization says she's anything but conservative. Here are a sample of other Senator's scores:

Obama, Cantwell 8
Boxer, 12
Feingold 13

Landrieu 44

Warner 88
Frist, Hatch 92
Graham, Sensenbrenner, 96
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Roslyn Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 11:28 PM
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12. Wrong!
Maria voted for the Levin Reed bill and has said hundreds if not thousands of times that the troops have to start coming home this year.

She and Patty have to support free trade because it's good for the state of Washington we may not like free trade but their job is to do what's good for the state as a whole.

She voted against Roberts and Alito and just because she didn't vote for a filibuster that was doomed to fail doesn't mean she didn't do anything to stop them.

Patty Murray actually voted for Roberts, why don't you bitch and moan about that?


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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 11:34 PM
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14. Thank you, Roslyn, and WELCOME TO DU!
Edited on Sat Sep-23-06 11:35 PM by pnwmom
:hi:

:dem:
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Roslyn Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 11:41 PM
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15. Thank you for the warm welcome. n/t
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 12:30 PM
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16. Hi Roslyn!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Roslyn Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 07:21 PM
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17. Thanks and I agree with your sig 100%
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 07:27 PM
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18. If you want more leftists
you first have to get the Democrats back in power. Let them accomplish things and control the agenda. That, and that alone, will push a left leaning agenda.

Sorry, but that's the way it is. Politics is a strategic, not idealistic, sport. You actually want to effect change? Think strategically.
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