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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 07:51 PM
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Daily Kos: The Jewish Question and George Allen's Anger Issues
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The Jewish Question and George Allen's Anger Issues
by lowkell
Tue Sep 19, 2006 at 06:24:47 AM PDT

Like George Allen at yesterday's debate, Wesley Kanne Clark, who I strongly supported for President in 2003 and early 2004, has also been aksed about his Jewish heritage. Did Clark react furiously, as George Allen did yesterday, to simply being asked if he had Jewish ancestry? To use the language George Allen's Tunisian grandparents spoke, "au contraire!" In fact, Clark expressed tremendous pride in his Jewish past.

<<snip>>

That's right, Clark "revels in his Jewish roots." And why wouldn't he? This is a proud culture and a proud heritage. As my own Jewish grandmother might say, "so, what's not to like?"

Which raises the question, why is George Felix Allen so ANGRY about this subject (and so many other subjects)? Because that's the real issue here; not the reporter's question, which was at worst a bit out of place, but George Allen's angry, almost violent reaction TO the question.

And, while we're on the subject, why would George Allen, as Dana Milbank writes in today's Washington Post, " as if he had been struck" by a simple question about "whether your forebears include Jews?" Why would he say that the reporter's question was "making aspersions about people because of their religious beliefs?" What in the reporter's question did that? I'm Jewish myself, and very sensitive to anti-Semitism, and I heard NOTHING anti-Semitic in there.

Also, getting back to Allen's almost violent reaction to the question, why would George Allen "furiously" attack the female reporter, in front of hundreds of his supporters no less (encouraging them to jeer and boo her), for simply asking him about his heritage? What in that question would prompt George Allen to react in such a way as to leave the female reporter "frightened" and "shocked" that Allen would "get so angry at the suggestion there might be something in background that's Jewish?"

In other words, as much as Allen supporters try to make this all about the oh-so-mean woman reporter and her horrible, crazy question, this isn't about her at all. Peggy Fox isn't running for U.S. Senate. George Allen is. So, whether you liked that question or not (personally, I didn't see it anything to get angry about; it's like asking Jim Webb about his Scots-Irish ancestry or any of us about our ancestors), this is all about George Allen - why he gets so angry so often, why he is so prone to attacking those he sees as weak and/or threatening, etc.
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NOLADEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 07:53 PM
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1. Only one answer to why this angered him
Because he considered the insinuation that he may be Jewish an insult, thereby furthering his credentials as a bigoted idiot.

Keep diggin, Georgie.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 07:57 PM
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2. Exactly!! One more example of racism from this piece of shit.
A freeper tried to tell me that Georgie would be a great president. I told him, "Oh please, please nominate this racist idiot for president...I'm begging you." (It was the same guy that told me that Condi could defeat Wes Clark.)
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4nic8em Donating Member (382 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 09:06 PM
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9. Damn...
Poor Felix, I guess this means he'll lose his David Duke constituency.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 08:18 PM
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3. How could Allen have known his grandfather
was in a Nazi concentration camp and never known whether his grandfather was Jewish or not? I don't believe Allen. I think Allen tried to cover up his Jewish ancestry.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 08:28 PM
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4. I agree
I do not believe that George Allen didn't ask why the Nazis imprisoned his grandfather.
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 08:58 PM
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7. Allen is dishonoring his mother.
Allen is asking us to believe he didn't know his mother is ethnically Jewish.

He's obviously lying, and everyone with half a brain knows he's lying.

He's also dishonoring his mother.

Compare Allen's anger and evasion in response to Fox's question,
the intent of which was to call in question Allen's honesty and
point out his bigotry, to Wesley Clark pride in his Jewish past:

' Raised a Southern Baptist who later converted to Roman Catholicism, Gen. Wesley Clark knew just what to say when he strode into a Brooklyn yeshiva in 1999, ostensibly to discuss his leadership of NATO's victory in Yugoslavia.

"I feel a tremendous amount in common with you," the uniformed four-star general told the stunned roomful of students. "I am the oldest son, of the oldest son, of the oldest son -- at least five generations, and they were all rabbis."

The incident could be a signal of how Clark, who became the 10th contender in the Democratic run for the presidency on Wednesday, relates to the Jews and the issues dear to them.

Apparently Clark, 58, revels in his Jewish roots. '

from
http://www.raisingkaine.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=4573

George Allen associated himself with the KKK by naming is son Forrest after Nathan Bedford Forrest and initiating contact with the CCC. The KKK and CCC are both anti-semitic.

"You can tell a lot about people by the folks they stand with," - George Allen

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Bedford_Forrest


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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 08:29 PM
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5. Has That Reporter Been Fired Yet?
I don't know much about this story, but this was a fox reporter, right? I figure that conservative excuse for a news network will shit can her because she "disgraced" one of their own. They are ruthless, and I'll be shocked if they let her off, unless it was an honest screw up.

I don't understand what is so bad about it though, but I guess allen needs an issue right now to gain some momentum, so he'll huff and puff....whatever.
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williesgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 08:36 PM
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6. She's NOT a Fox reporter, last name is Fox. Works for CBS, Channel 9
in DC
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 09:03 PM
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8. because he a white supremist and if his other white supremist pals
found him out, he'd be kicked out of their club.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 01:40 PM
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12. He'd have to turn in his pointy hat!!
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 09:23 PM
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10. Allen has always been so proud of his
heritage. He's got his Confederate flag. He's go his noose (it's a football thing... Yeah, right...) He's got his wannabe cowboy boots. His base loved that. They aren't going to love this part of his heritage, and neither, it seems, does he.

He loses because enough of his bigoted supporters might turn on him because of this 'heritage'. And he will lose some of the weak moderate support he got because of the way he handled this.

Allen is loser. Plain and simple. He's also a jerk. He has no place being in the Senate and the thought of this bigot as President should make anyone with half a brains blood curdle.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 10:36 PM
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11. So Ol' Felix is not only French, but he Jewish too?????
Edited on Tue Sep-19-06 10:37 PM by Kahuna
The bible thumpers could forgive him, "macaca." But french AND Jewish???? Tough sell.

:rofl:
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