HOLY Sh*t Ahmadineejad!

[Brundle_Fly]

how is the US media gonna spin this???

taking the US to task, UN to task.

[eleny]

1. He's handing out some red ass

[Quakerfriend]

3. Please, do tell! What is he saying???

[eleny]

8. Without naming the U.S. ...

He talked about america as "the occupier" when talking about Iraq. And regarding Israel, he talked about it in terms of Lebanon and how the U.N sat could do nothing because of our power. These are paraphrases. But he definitely said what so many DUers have been saying for years.

[RadiDem]

10. Mentioned US being only country to have USED nuclear weapons

[eleny]

11. i could have slid off my chair at that

[bigdarryl]

48. TRUE

[knowbody0]

2. I am amazed as well

I really wish we could see a debate between him and mr bush.

[NOLADEM]

5. Bush would never debate him

Because he would get his ass handed to him.

It really wouldn't be fair, though...Bush clearly is legally retarded.

[Brundle_Fly]

6. For a kook

he makes a great case for the uselessness of the UN under the US bullying.

[Sam Odom]

4. Same way they & Joe Kennedy spun Hitler n/t

n/t

[graywarrior]

7. Wow. Just fucking wow!

[eleny]

9. amen

[Sam Odom]

12. Ahmadineejad is NOT a 'good guy' and some here are foolish

in thinking because he is anti-Bushco then he must be a friend of DU

[Brundle_Fly]

13. I didn't see one person state he was a good guy.

or a friend, get a grip.

[Sam Odom]

24. Wow. Just fucking wow!

What does that mean ?

[Name removed]

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[babylonsister]

44. Ouch!

:spray:

[graywarrior]

56. And I was being nice.

:grr:

[eleny]

14. it can't be denied that he's spoken a lot of truth today

that doesn't make him a good guy. it just makes him right in some of the things he's pointed out. we have been the only nation to use nuclear weapons. we are occupying iraq. and we did pull israeli strings regarding lebanon.

spare us your lecturing.

[Sam Odom]

spare us your lecturing

How 'progressive' of you.

[Brundle_Fly]

21. there you go again.

we were chatting during a speech, you claimed we were elevating him to absolute power.

for all intensive purposes, that is lecturing.

shut it.
move along...

[Sam Odom]

27. I will post my opinion

unless u think i shouldnt.

[Brundle_Fly]

30. post your opinion all you want

but don't call us "FOOLS" for ours.

asshat

[Sam Odom]

31. Foolish

is what I posted.

[Brundle_Fly]

45. some here are foolish

the implication is that some here are fools.

Pretty basic english, its a statement.

[Sam Odom]

50. Hardly

Many bright people do foolish things from time to time.

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[Sam Odom]

54. So ? do i need your permission ?

Thx

[Brundle_Fly]

57. You Certainly DO NOT.

but your argument was here, your thread on its own was confusing and the only reason I can see you doing it is to divide DU members.

You can do what you want, start random threads about nothing stir up the pot, just try to be sensible.

oh and try not to buy everything you are spoon fed, thats why we all came here in the first place.

[Sam Odom]

59. well another 'divider' just started another thread

[Brundle_Fly]

61. he too shall meet my ignore list

I don't need idiots running my life.

[Sam Odom]

62. Lets be friends ?

we just disagree on this one topic

[RadiDem]

32. bushco 'forgave' Kaddafi who blew up a plane full of Americans

Because American big oil wants the natural gas in Libya. Neocons don't give a shit about 'terrorism' nor 'human rights' compared to profits

[Sam Odom]

33. What's your point in regards

to my post?

[RadiDem]

34. You're buying into bushco hypocricy of demonizing Ahmadineejad

[Sam Odom]

35. Ahmadineejad has demonized himself with his speeches

[eleny]

37. not today

[RadiDem]

39. He probably wouldn't have been elected if not for bush's "axis of evil'

[Wally101]

73. Sorry Brundle gotta nitpick.....

It's "for all INTENTS and PURPOSES", not intensive purposes.

that's what I get for marrying a teacher, now I'm a grammar nazi.

Carry on.


Mark

[eleny]

25. see posting #21

i couldn't say it any better.

[Brundle_Fly]

28. ;)

[PCIntern]

15. That's right...

you're talking about this guy like he's McGovern. Listen...just because some guy hates someone we think is, well, not too swell, it just doesn't make him a hero. Sure he's glib...he's extraordinarily dangerous.

[Brundle_Fly]

17. yeah

he's a real politician.

[eleny]

18. nobody called him a hero

you can quit reading into postings now.

[PCIntern]

Responses like:

"Wow"...are easily interpreted.

I am much less impressed by a Jew-hating, Holocaust-denying megalomaniac. I've had to deal with enough of them here in the US, I don't need them from somewhere else.

[RadiDem]

38. But if it's a Jew-hating holocaust-denying UAE Emir, it's AOK with bushco

that they take over US ports.Jew hating Saudi Royals are bushco's best friends.

AFAIK, there are NO Jewish citizens of Saudi Arabia, and no synagogues.

There are both in Iran under Ahmadineejad

[Sam Odom]

43. Is Bush the measuring stick for DU ?

[RadiDem]

49. I don't see you rant against the Saudi Royals etc, just bushco's enemies

[Sam Odom]

53. Ahmadineejad is not JUST a bushco enemy

Look at this away:

If Bush dislikes vanilla ice cream is it just possible some dems may too?

Ahmadineejad is an enemy to bushco and should be for all freedom loving people.

[Brundle_Fly]

58. you are not free.

[Realityhack]

71. No...

A caricature of Bush in which every worst scenario is taken as true is.

Well... sometimes it seems like that anyway.

I feel like an equal opertunity hater today. I can hate bush and Iranian wakos all at once!

[Smithson]

47. Ahmadinejad has also said he respects the Pope

Tehran: Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad who is on a visit to Venezuela on Monday expressed respect for Pope Benedict XVI, saying that the pontiff had "modified" his remarks that offended Muslims worldwide.

"We respect the pope and all those interested in peace and justice," Ahmadinejad told a news conference before departing Venezuela...

At the end of a two-day visit to Venezuela, Ahmadinejad also said there was a contradiction between the Christian values of Western nations and the wars those countries have waged.

"All the wars of the 20th century have been caused by European countries and the United States," he said.

"A part of the American government say they are Christians, but they are not Christians, because Christ like all the prophets of God was a prophet of justice and peace for humanity," he said.

http://www.gulfnews.com/region/Iran/10068652.html

[geek tragedy]

60. Well, Ratzo was a Hitler youth, which Ahmadinejad probably

admires about him.

[Smithson]

66. Ahmadinejad also respects Jesus Christ.

Was he a NAZI, too?

[geek tragedy]

68. A broken clock is right twice a day. eom

[Smithson]

69. Maybe you have already been right 2X today.

Thanks.

[geek tragedy]

70. I'm right a hell of a lot more than people who defend Ahhadinejad.

That's a guarantee.

[Smithson]

72. No, it's just one more opinion...

Everybody's got 'em.

[peacetalksforall]

65. At the same time, I always visualize George in the middle

walking down a grand staircase holding the hand of a Sharon type leader of Israel on one side the hand of a Prince of the House of Saud on the other. It's a very strange triangle that is in operation over there. Sometimes (OK often)I think that they are not really enemies.

[freeplessinseattle]

42. speak for yourself

why can't the "wow" mean, "wow, someone said something truthful and negative about the US to the UN" not "wow, whatta guy"

[Brundle_Fly]

46. He shot down the UN pretty hard too

[IChing]

19. Are you listening to the speech?

I am not saying he is my friend, but at least listen to your friends and enemies

[RadiDem]

22. You can find similar bluster from Kaddafi who's now a bushco ALLY

Did Ahmadineejad!'s gov blow up a plane full of Americans like Kaddafi's did?

[htuttle]

26. Well, we got one of theirs once

...or the USS Vincennes did.

[peacetalksforall]

64. You're right. He is a radical leader until we know more. He has

a radical mouth and he probably does have his sights on Iraq. I have no problem with my counterparts in Iran - the non-leaders. Our problem is with leaders.

All normal people want is peace, the opportunity to prosper, safety, movability, a future, and glorious little children who will thrive and improve the world. Brotherhood. Sisterhood.

[No Exit]

74. Bush is not a 'good guy' and some here are foolish

in thinking that because Bush devotes much energy to demonizing Ahmadinejad, then we must obsess over whether or not Ahmadinejad is a 'good guy' or not.

[RadiDem]

16. Islam Experts: Why doesn't he wear a robe and headress?

Why is him dressing in western garb NOT considered 'selling out' to western values?

[eleny]

20. why didn't georgie wear a crown and ermine robe?

[lwcon]

36. I designed a crown for dubya

http://vastleft.blogspot.com/2006/07/king-of-america_02.html

But I haven't tackled a robe yet...

[htuttle]

29. He holds a secular office (President)

It's the Mullahs who hold the religious offices (and really run everything).

[kineneb]

41. easy- he is not a mullah

Most Iranians do not wear a turban, only those who are the equivalent of priests or who are extremely devout. The only secular people in Iran who really wear "traditional" dress are members of the nomadic tribes. Fashionable western (=European) clothing has been popular for some time.

[RadiDem]

55. Here's a pic of Rafsanjani who's more moderate than Ahmadineejad

I don't understand. I would think Ahmadineejad would have more 'street cred' among his Fundy followers if he dressed like that

[CJCRANE]

51. Because that's what politicians wear in Iran.

I guess. Not all muslims dress like the Taliban or Saudi sheikhs, that's just a media cliche.

[Tin Man]

23. Now he's getting all "fundy" - talking about God's command - and return?

"all who await God's return" - did I hear that correctly? I guess Ahmadineejad is waiting to be raptured too. :shrug:

[Rhiannon12866]

63. And with good reason, IMHO.

If Bush* has issues with him, and they are legitimate, he owes it to the American people and to the world community to have a dialog with him. It's just crazy that he refuses. But he's done the same thing with North Korea, which Clinton and Madeline Albright worked so hard to establish a dialog with, since they are our greatest threat. Bush*'s U.N. speech was better than most he's made, but he's totally dropped the ball by not meeting with the president of Iran when he had the chance, and discussing his questions about a nuclear threat. Bush* obviously has issues with Iran, if he refuses to even talk with them, much to our detriment... The media liked Bush*'s speech, as did Bill Richardson, but this means nothing until he engages in dialog with Iran and North Korea...:-(

[bloom]

67. From what I had on of CNN

after (which wasn't for long) - it looked like they completely ignored the content of the speech and just focused on the nuclear weapons question - as if that were the only question in the entire world.