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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 06:42 AM
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Do you think all the candidates could form a unity ticket?
Edited on Fri Dec-26-03 07:01 AM by sweetheart
It seems to win, that ALL democrats should come together, and this would be easiest if all the candidates could come together voluntarily in to a unity administrationn.

I am seriously suspect of any candidate that would NOT want to participate in such an offer, were such a thing to exist... as it would mean an inclusive move towards a 100% democrat power ticket, without the cat fight that so motivates the democrats to date.

I KNOW that such a move would defeat bush soundly, as there would be no "rove" choice... republicans hate unity... and thrive on divisive infighting. A unity ticket would be the direct opposite of all that the BFEE stand for.

Your thoughts?
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 07:00 AM
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1. I think that it will take everyone
to defeat Bush. I was talking with my neighbor, who said that in her travels what she heard was discouragement from liberals. We must fight for our country, and the way to do that and to give everyone courage is to get all the candidates to work for the common goal-to bash Bush and kick him out of the White House.
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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 07:01 AM
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2. All the egos would demand the presidental slot
But if that could somehow be resolved in a good way....
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 07:12 AM
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3. It should be the 2 least annoying candidates, Clark-Graham
Edited on Fri Dec-26-03 07:14 AM by Bombtrack
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Vote
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1 Wesley Clark
General
54.42% (2006 of 3686 votes)
2 Bob Graham
Senator
55.58% (897 of 1614 votes)
7 George W. Bush
U.S. President
60.47% (14573 of 24101 votes)
9 Reverend Al Sharpton
Reverend/Civil Rights Activist
67.11% (10542 of 15709 votes)
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 09:30 AM
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9. I don't understand
What is that data about? What votes? Is it a simulated runoff election with each candidate?... ?

"least annoying?"... you mean least divisive with other democrats?

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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 09:58 AM
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13. Still citing this "respected" source?
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 08:15 AM
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4. No way....and let those big egos not get their way?
Or admit that they may not be the right ones for the job?

Never happen. Far as I've not seen one of them act in a way that makes me think anything other than that they are all in this for themselves and not for the good of the country or the democratic party.

Except of course Howard Dean who's every move and word is sincere and from the heart and devoid of any self interest of personal motivation whatsover.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 08:17 AM
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5. Wow! Great sarcasm!
A wonderful start to our road toward unity! Oy!

Julie
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 08:29 AM
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8. Sarcasm?
I've just been yelled at, lectured, and harangued, and called names too many times for me to not add that caveat. So until I feel comfortable enough that won't happen, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 09:56 AM
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12. I see, others are responsible for your actions
Nice blame-placement. I marvel at how often I see this excuse given. I have been insulted in many ways and yet I do not make blanket statements/inferrences regarding supporters of any candidate.

Perhaps making the extra effort to limit your blanket statements/inferrences to "some but not all" or some other limitation may help you to avoid having to blame others for your actions in the future.

Julie
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 10:00 AM
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14. I don't see the word "all" in reference to anything in my post...
Edited on Fri Dec-26-03 10:01 AM by vi5
I simply said that I've been lectured, yelled at, harangued, and called names. Nowhere did I say anything about "all" or "every or make blanket statements. Nor did I blame anyone for my actions, (whatever actions those may be). You made quite a few assumptions based off of both of my posts.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 10:42 AM
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15. no, you inferred
"all". Do you know the difference between a statement and an inferrence?

Except of course Howard Dean who's every move and word is sincere and from the heart and devoid of any self interest of personal motivation whatsover.

An overly dramatic statement inferring all who support Dean hold this extreme view.

I've just been yelled at, lectured, and harangued, and called names too many times for me to not add that caveat.

So because you claim some have treated you in such a manner you see no choice but to make that blanket inferrence regarding all who support Dean.

I charged you with acting in a counter-productive manner in my original post to this thread and you whine to me about mistreatment to excuse your subsequent behavior. That would be an attempt to justify your actions by pointing to those of others. In other words, effectively "blame-placing".

Julie
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 10:48 AM
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16. If I meant "all" I would have said "all"....
And if you have never lectured or yelled at or called someone names, then clearly anything I have said does not apply to you.

And clearly we have different views on what is "counter-productive". I would reserve that title for the supporters of ANY candidate who have taken a post or a statement from someone who is undecided, and looking for information on candidates, or expressing honest, thoughtful reservations about particular candidates, and twisted around and used it as an excuse to lecture, bully, call names, yell or in general do more to turn that undecided person off of their candidate.

If you haven't done this then you should take absolutely no offense at anything I said.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 11:49 AM
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17. if you mmeant "some" would you say "some"?
Just wondering.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 09:38 AM
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11. ROFL!
Very funny. Do you have a 1-9 rating of the biggest ego's to the smallest? All people having egos, perhaps meaning those who have a strong self-importance to a more social importance?
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 08:25 AM
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6. I believe this is what you will see after the nomination
For the most part, our candidates are professional politicians (I don't mean that in a bad way). For the most part, they are life-long Democrats. In spite of the vitriol that passes between some of them and between some of their supporters now, I do believe that they all want what is best for the country, and that they will come together and present united support for the nominee.

Now some supporters, on the other hand, have gone over the edge and will never be able to support a nominee other than their own candidate. But they are few and inconsequential.
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edzontar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 08:27 AM
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7. I think you have nailed it....
One of the worst aspects of American presidential politics is the personality cult aspect, and we are at the depths of this right now.

I have seen the damage created in the past by dueling egos and fanatical, resentful supporters...hope we manage to keep this at a minimum this time out.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 09:35 AM
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10. I'm not a life long democrat
I was registered as a republican up until 3 months ago... though i have not voted since 1980.... and i am only a democrat because the repuke's have gone fascist. That said, when a candidate is selected, if they don't see right to include some wisdom from candidates defeated like Mr. kucinich if the poll numbers of 2% are accurate, they don't have a guaranteed vote from me.... i will struggle to vote for someone i actually would never vote for in a real multiparty democracy.

Have you a feeling for which candidates have "gone over the edge" and cannot work with each other given the people's choice of leader?
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