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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 09:16 AM
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Democrats need not surrender to fear...

John Kerry and Russ Feingold and a few others can make great speeches but they are for naught if our Party is not united. When the majority of the Party is afraid to be painted as "weak on defense" or "friends of the terrorists", we are losing. We need leadership and a message that the majority of Democrats can get behind.

There is no threat in this world strong enough to make us surrender our freedoms. Even if we are attacked again and again and again, we will defend our country and still defend our freedoms and Constitution. We will not surrender to the fears and paranoia of Bush and the Republicans! We are a better country than that.

Yes, we may be attacked again but we will do a better job at defending our country and working with our allies and using diplomacy, rather than war, as the first option. The Bush agenda and the so-called "war on terror" is an unacceptable agenda. The Democratic Party does not accept this fear agenda. We are ready to fight if necessary but we are not ready to surrender our liberties to George W Bush and the Republican Party.

We will fight the enemies of our country, both foreign and domestic, and make no mistake, these folks are enemies of everything America stands for. We cannot accept their lies, their fears, their paranoia, their lust for power. We reject the Republican "war on terror" and the Republican way!
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 09:25 AM
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1. Go Kentuck Go!
Edited on Thu Sep-14-06 09:25 AM by waiting for hope
I was just thinking last night - it's not just the Democrats in Congress that are being called weak and appeasers, it's ALL of us who oppose the GOP's bag of shit. Who is going to speak for us? Keith Olbermann is doing a fantastic job but we need more voices on the Hill exposing the politics of this administration. I for one, am sick and tired of it - I just hope there are thousands upon thousands more that feel the same.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 09:38 AM
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2. I am afraid just 'feeling the same' is not enough.
'Doing' similar things might have a better chance to succeed. Here's my suggestion (because I feel like it's urgent).
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2133397&mesg_id=2133558
Time is running away to restore democracy.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 09:53 AM
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3. It's Up To "We The People"... Good Post, But Times' A Wastin'
and we NEED activism! And yes, I work locally with Democrats here in Florida to all I can, but Nationally we MUST UNITE and make our voices heard!!

WE THE PEOPLE... we can't depend on anyone else now! Repukes are OUT FOR BLOOD!! While they may distance themselves from The Idiot, locally they are gathering their sharpest KNIVES and will have NO remorse who they cut down with them!!

WE THE PEOPLE!! WE MUST UNITE, WE MOST TAKE OUT COUNTRY BACK!

Kentuck, I see your posts all the time and you are SUPER! A real "quick draw McGraw" because you have facts out so quickly all the time. Don't you think we need to do more than just blog, sign petitions, email and make phone calls? Don't you think we need a REVOLUTION of some sort. I have no idea how to go about this, but you seem so knowledgeable!



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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 10:00 AM
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4. You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows...
Revolution, in the sense you are talking, would only take place if circumstances were to become much worse. People, by nature, are like the frog in boiling water. By the time they realize they are cooked, it is too late.

But no actions or words can be effective unless they connect with a basic truth that people are craving but which is lost in rhetoric. Once the majority unite behind an idea, that is the "revolution".
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 10:18 AM
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5. Not One To HOPE... I Fear The Majority You Are Looking For
is going to be a day late and a dollar short!

Remember gerrymandering and the dirty tricks! Seems to work for these evil doers! If WE'VE been unable to get the message out by now, I really really wonder what the future holds?

Perhaps it's because of where I live and all the crap that has been going on, but I have neither TRUST nor HOPE anymore! I will keep working, but come November if there is NO change, I don't really know what I will do!



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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 10:21 AM
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6. I'm talking about the "majority" of the Democratic Party...
If we lead, the people will follow, even if we are presently in the minority. But we need to unite with a message that rings true with the people.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 10:25 AM
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7. As I Said... Time Is Of The Essence!
What message?? I realize there are messages out there, but if MSM keeps pounding away everyday that Dems DON'T have a message, what then?

I did something last night that I rarely do, I watched "part" of Chris Matthews with Bill Maher... it was all about WHY can't the Dems get the MESSAGE out! How do you overcome that??

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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 10:31 AM
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8. Because there is no one message...
there are several messages. How many Democrats came out in support of John Kerry's position? How many came out in favor of John Murtha's position? There are always some but we are never united. We have a number of people that want to play it safe and perhaps they truly believe in Bush's "war on terror". I think most believe it to be a fraud perpetuated by fear. Yet, they are afraid to speak that one truth. It is a fraud. As a Party, we should never, never, never support the "fear" agenda of the Republican Party. Simple as that. Get the Democrats in a room, sit them down, and tell them just like Bush is telling the Republicans today, that we cannot support his incompetent "war on terror" and his fear agenda. We can do a better job defending our country and we may be hit again...we probably will, but by God, we will not surrender our liberties to the Goddamn Republican Party and George W Bush!
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 11:10 AM
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10. I Don't Disagree... I'm One Person Here In A Very Red County...
but sign everything, make phone calls and do all the things expected of me. I talk politics all the time, I still have MANY bumper stickers on my car. Many who know me won't even debate issues with me because they call me a political junky, so it's extremely frustrating to get ANY message out! I'm always out there trying to get others involved, but it's VERY lonely.

I have signs in my yard... not only supporting candidates, but one especially derogatory to The Idiot! It's very hard for me to remain committed when we CAN'T get the message out. I'm NOT quitting, I work locally but as I said... we need some sort of MOVEMENT!

Something IS NOT working even though some have hit very hard against the Repukes! I keep hearing that we have a "golden opportunity" but most think the Dems are going to blow it. So HOW do WE UNITE and show our UNITY??? I don't have any answers. Just saying we MUST do it, does not make it so!

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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 11:15 AM
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11. We vote for the Democratic Party to represent us...
Edited on Thu Sep-14-06 11:17 AM by kentuck
if they cannot unite with a message, how are we or the rest of America supposed to support them? We need a united message on the "war on terror". Unfortunately, I think many Democrats are playing it safe thru the election - then they can play it safe for the next election. I see a lack of leadership.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 11:17 AM
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12. That's My Point Exactly... n/t
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Surya Gayatri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 11:04 AM
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9. Beautifully & simply put, kentuck...K & R n/t
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Catamount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:15 PM
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13. Remember the' Big Lie' Theory?
I forgot who came up with it --but it was long ago and followed by many dictators to keep the population subdued in constant fear. Basically--the bigger the lie- the easier to make people believe it.
What is the political tool used the most by these people? A lie so enormous that nobody can really believe it--or want to. Ask yourself when it started 'this fear', and see how it strangely coincides with the worst day in America.
These repugs are desperate now--because people like us on DU are on to them, uncovering not just one lie, but the whole House of Lies!
They must continue to cause mayhem, death and destruction, to keep the money rolling in for their war coffers and to buy the press/ media/ blogosphere, because if the truth ever does come out--what awaits them, our government.
They want endless war, and the destruction of the planet--it fits in with the "Rapture" theory, doesn't it? They probably consider Global Warming a gift from God, to quickly aid their destructive cause.
They've already admitted that they are going to retain the House and Senate- -how about that?
Just like the last time and the time before that.
What awaits them if somehow we take the House?
At best Impeachment, at worst(deservedly) exposure, disgrace and prison, endless trials around the world for crimes against humanity.

There doesn't seem to be a way out for this cabal, so they might as well take the world down with them, so we see this renewed vigor in our leader in his desperation to cover up his own 'evil doing', and changing the laws to accommodate his despicable behavior, whenever he can. Nothing but more lies to cover up the big one.
We here do spread the word about their filthy lies and the 'people' are becoming more aware, but probably too late to matter at this point.
Who among the working folk has the time to spend it reading about the unbelievable crap going on every day, apart from a few? People who care are working harder than ever, and who can blame them for believing in their government, that's what we should be abe to do
And the things we find out are just the tip of the iceberg, imagine all the stuff we don't know about.
Yes we still have so many great people working for 'us', so there is still hope, but we really need some kind of miracle.

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