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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 11:40 PM
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John Kerry in the very best speech of his life
Edited on Sun Sep-10-06 11:41 PM by EST
is on cspan, right now, third repeat.
This is the most powerful speech I have ever seen him give.
Well worth the time.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 11:41 PM
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1. Thanks.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 11:44 PM
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5. I've already watched it twice and I'm still thrilled.
This is the John Kerry I voted for but seemed never to get.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 11:51 AM
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47. That's just what I needed before going to sleep last night.
It felt like hope.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 11:41 PM
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2. He's got it going on.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 11:41 PM
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3. It is a very good speech.
I saw the second airing in its entirety earlier this evening.

He actually used the term 'neocon' in the speech....several things he said really stunned me (pleasantly).
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 11:44 PM
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4. "They (Bushco) have nothing to offer but fear itself".
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 11:48 PM
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9. How about the "bad boy" grin on his face when he said,
Bush was for torture, before he was against it!! To a standing ovation!! Love him when he gets pissed off!!
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 02:17 PM
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55. JK kicked much booty in that speech.(eom)
:bounce:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 11:56 AM
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48. Actually, I think the whole Dem party should adopt that line and use it at
every opportunity - pound it home and show the terror strategy of the GOPs for what it is.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:34 PM
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51. Good idea - it ties to FDR and WWII
I hadn't really thought about till you posted that - but it clearly points out that FDR strove to move a fearful nation away from fear. Bush has created abused nation syndrome by reinflicting fear every time the traumatized population seemed to slightly recover.

That line likely would rink home to the WWII generation - much of which supported Bush. Rally around the President in troubeled times - maybe they'll see this President didn't deserve it.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 11:44 PM
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6. Thanks. nt
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 11:46 PM
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7. It was a sizzler. I loved every syllable.
What a president this guy would make.

Did you hear what I said, Ken Blackwell?
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 11:47 PM
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8. Heard it earlier.
Edited on Sun Sep-10-06 11:47 PM by longship
And I heartily agree with your assessment. Indeed, it may be among his best.
But I think he can do even better. I can't help but think his Viet Nam speech before the Senate committee was his best.

BTW, I think we're going to be seeing some great things from Kerry.
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 11:52 PM
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10. Me Too!!
But I've been seeing them all along, where you been?? JK is coming into his own, and this is the "comfort level" he needs to maintain if he runs again.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 06:46 AM
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27. You may be right - I feel strange saying this was his best speech
for at least the third time this year! (The Dissent speech at Faneuil, the American University speech that combined some of the dissent speech with what the Democratic agenda should be and this one.) I also loved the speech he gave at the Rosa Parks memorial and his Senate speech the day of the Alito cloture vote, even though it was rudely ended by McConnell.

I think we are seeing something great from Kerry right now - very consistent, principled leadership that Democrats haven't had for decades. (Clinton was not principled) Kerry led against the unitary President idea (Alito), Iraq, and now the War on Terror. Combined with Gore leading on global warming, this is a time of real leadership for Democrats, even though we have little power.

I just hope that more Democrats give up the Clinton nostolgia and realize that to win making an issue of Republican corruptions and lies, you need a clearly honest and principled opponent.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 07:22 AM
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64. I think the dissent speech was one of the best. I've heard senate floor
speeches from him over the years that were just stellar, so, I would just say that this last speech was in the top 20%.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 08:37 AM
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66. There are extremely few leaders for whom this speech would
NOT have been unquestionably their best ever. Kerry has so many truely outstanding speeches, that one risks labelling 4 or 5 them "the Best" - which defies logic. I love it when someone posts a reference to a long ago Senate speech where Kerry eloquently and commandingly spoke on a huge range of issues. The range of issues where his insights were prescient is amazing. (His comments when he introduced the Clean Election bill could be delivered today. The dangers of a "moneytocrity" are still here. His speech when NAFTA was on the floor is one of the clearest descriptions of the enormous change in the economy in the lasst quarter of the last century was better than anything else I've read other then Paul Krugman's columns.

I just wish the media would have shown more of this real Kerry.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 08:41 AM
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67. It's media's job to tell public they don't want a Gore/Kerry type speaker
because they are too BORING with all their policy talk and solutions.

This has been going on for years as part of the general dumbing down of American public.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:00 AM
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11. Transcript?
Anybody?
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:49 AM
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20. Here's the transcript.
Edited on Mon Sep-11-06 12:56 AM by _dynamicdems

edit: here's a link to download an mp3 of the speech
http://netrootsmass.wikispaces.com/space/showimage/20060909-John+Kerry-Real+Security.mp3

The war on terror that was brought home to the Casey family on a sunny autumn morning that suddenly turned into midnight five years ago, also brought home for all of humanity the stark reality that we are in a fateful contest between forces of evil and hate and the defenders of progress and hope.

The outcome will determine whether our children live in freedom or fear. This is a clash between humanity’s best ideals and the darkness of superstition and oppression. And this is not a clash of faiths: the true Islam is a faith to live by, not a call to terrorize and kill.

In this war, the war against terrorism, there is no substitute for victory. I don’t know a single American who needs a politician to remind them that we have to win this fight.

On Monday, we will commemorate our largest loss of civilian life on a single day in American history. As we remember the horror, the unforgettable shock, and the pride in those who rushed to the rescue, it is our duty to take account as a nation of where we have come since that terrible moment and where we must go if we are to keep America safe in these perilous times.

Since the beginning, at critical moments in our nation’s history, Americans have gathered here at Faneuil Hall to find a better way forward. This is where Americans first agreed on our nation’s promise and where they have gathered ever since to help our country keep it.

That is why you and I have convened here four times so far this year – to chart a new course, for a nation that has been misled on global climate change, misled on health care, misled on fundamental constitutional values, and misled into a war that was based on a lie, a war that can and must be brought to a close.

Donald Rumsfeld – the man who should have been fired as Secretary of Defense long ago – Donald Rumsfeld recently gave a low and ugly speech in which he smeared those who dissent from a catastrophic policy, and then spoke of “moral confusion.”

Well, there certainly is a lot of moral confusion around these days.

It is immoral for old men to send young Americans to fight and die in a conflict without a strategy that can work – on a mission that has not weakened terrorism but worsened it.

It is immoral to lie about progress in that war to get through a news cycle or an election.

It is immoral to treat 9/11 as a political pawn – and to continue to excuse the invasion of Iraq by exploiting the 3,000 mothers and fathers, sons and daughters who were lost that day. They were attacked and killed not by Saddam Hussein but by Osama bin Laden.

And it is deeply immoral to compare a majority of Americans who oppose a failing policy and seek a winning one to appeasers of Fascism and Naziism.

The leaders of this administration have shown in recent days that they will say anything, do anything, twist any truth, and endanger our nation’s character as one America in a desperate ploy to survive a mid term election.

But Americans now see through this charade. They know the truth. We have a Katrina foreign policy – a succession of blunders and failures that have betrayed our ideals, killed and maimed our soldiers, and widened the terrorist threat instead of defeating it.

Every time the administration is down in the polls, every time their political opponents at home appear to gain, they trot out of the fear card, instead of reinforcing in Americans “there is nothing to fear but fear itself,” they have nothing to offer but fear itself.

The President wants Americans to believe only one party wants to fight terror. That’s a cynical game to try to win an election. I believe we need a game plan to capture and kill Osama Bin Laden, not capture a few Congressional seats.

I believe we need national leadership capable of raising hopes and inspiring trust, not raising fears and demanding blind faith. We need to marshal all our resources – military, diplomatic, economic, and moral – and first and foremost always tell the truth to the American people.

That is why on the eve of this midterm election, we Democrats have a unique responsibility to carry our cause into every corner of the nation—not just to oppose what has failed but to propose a new direction that can restore a bipartisan foreign policy and that can defeat jihadist terrorism once and for all.

In order to change course, we must level with the American people about the magnitude of the challenge: we must face reality so we can change it.

This starts by leveling with the American people about Iraq’s true position in the overall fight against jihadism. The President pretends Iraq is the central front on the war on terror. It is not now, and never has been. The truth is, his disastrous decisions have made Iraq a fuel depot for terror – fanning the flames of conflict around the world.

There is simply no way to overstate how Iraq has subverted our efforts to free the world from global terror. It has overstretched our military. It has served as an essential recruitment tool for terrorists. It has divided and pushed away our traditional allies. It has diverted critical billions of dollars from the real front lines against terrorism and from homeland security. It has unleashed dangerous, pent-up forces of radical religious extremism. It has weakened moderate leaders in the Middle East. It has strengthened and played into Iran’s hand. It has diminished our moral authority in the world.

The demagogic drumbeat about fighting terrorists over there instead of here -- even though they weren’t in Iraq until we went in, and it’s now a civil war we’re fighting -- has compromised America’s real interests and made us less safe than we ought to be five years after 9/11. The true measure of that is the stark fact that worldwide terrorist attacks are at an all-time high and there are now more terrorists in the world who want to kill Americans than there were at the time of 9/11.

After all the tough talk of “Wanted Dead or Alive,” after the Administration bragged and boasted – they meekly backed off in the mountains of Tora Bora. Osama bin Laden escaped because the administration held back the best military in the world – our’s – and outsourced the job to local militias. Since then Al Qaeda has spawned a vast and decentralized network operating in 65 countries. Only Dick Cheney could call this a success.

The situation in Afghanistan deteriorates steadily, squandering the sacrifices of our troops and allies in the military campaign of 2002. The Taliban now controls entire portions of southern Afghanistan, and just across the border Pakistan is just one coup away from becoming a radical jihadist state with a full compliment of nuclear weapons. Only Don Rumsfeld could proclaim this a victory.

The Middle East is more unstable than it has been in decades. Our stalwart ally Israel is surrounded by emboldened enemies who talk of wiping it off the face of the earth. Hezbollah flags fly from rooftops in Shiia slums of Sadr City and Iran is rebuilding Southern Lebanon. Only an Administration trapped in its own falsehoods could say we are making progress in creating a new Middle East.
North Korea has quadrupled its nuclear weapons capability, and is defiantly testing missiles that could reach our shores. Iran is moving steadily towards membership in the nuclear club; has expanded its terrorist clientele from Hezbollah to Hamas; maintains thousands of agents in Iraq; and is governed by a fanatic who almost daily calls for Israel’s destruction. Only George W Bush could declare this ‘mission accomplished.’

The Bush-Cheney policies have limited our power to act decisively and the regime in Tehran knows it. We have over 130,000 American troops in Iraq in the middle of a seething Shiite population that would explode if we moved against Iran. Our troops and our foreign policy are held hostage by the neocon catastrophe in Iraq. Only this White House could name this a plan for victory.

And be forewarned : don’t be surprised if they hype the Iranian nuclear crisis come October if all other appeals to fear are failing as the mid-term election approaches.

We have an Iraqi Prime Minister sustained in power by our forces, who will not speak against the Hezbollah terrorists, who will not say that Israel has a right to exist, and who will not condemn the Iranian nuclear program. No American soldier should be asked to stand up for an Iraqi government that won’t stand up for freedom and against fear.

Here at home, too many things have not changed in the last five years. We learned on 9/11 painful lessons about the costs of a dysfunctional intelligence system marred by bureaucratic infighting, inadequate resources, and faulty analysis. Yet the 9/11 commission recently gave our own government a failing grade on implementing intelligence reforms. Today, our ability to intercept terrorist communications remains in a legal and constitutional limbo.

The Dubai port deal reminded us only a small percentage of cargoes entering U.S. ports are even inspected. Surely if we can inspect cargoes at the Baghdad airport, we can inspect cargoes at the airports in Los Angeles, New York, and right here in Boston.

This is the reality of the world today – a world more dangerous because of the Bush blunders and a challenge far more complicated than the gruff Cheney sound bites. America deserves – our safety depends—on a winning strategy to reverse this dangerous course and make our country more secure.

There are five principal priorities that demand immediate action: (1) redeploy from Iraq, (2) re-commit to Afghanistan, (3) reduce our dependence on foreign oil, (4) reinforce our homeland defense, and (5) restore America’s moral leadership in the world. These “5 R’s”—if you want to call them that-- are bold steps Democrats will take to strengthen our national security, and that the Republicans who have set the agenda today resist to our national peril.

We must refocus our military efforts from the failed occupation of Iraq to what we should have been doing all along: tracking down and killing members of al Qaeda and their clones wherever they are. We must redeploy troops from Iraq – maintain enough residual force to complete the training and deter foreign intervention, so we can free up resources to fight the global war on terror.
Republicans want to wrap this strategy in slogans because they’re afraid to debate what it really is: a redeploy-to-succeed strategy – to succeed in defeating world wide terror, and to succeed in making Iraqis themselves responsible for Iraq.

This is the opposite of the administration’s stand-still-and-lose strategy - -a clear alternative from a broken policy of “more of the same.” Every time President Bush tells the Iraqis we will “stay as long as it takes,” he is giving squabbling politicians there an excuse to take as long as they want. All of us want democracy in Iraq but Iraqis must want it for themselves as much as we want it for them. It’s long overdue for the president to realize that no American soldier should be sacrificed because Iraqi factions refuse to resolve their ethnic rivalries and their competing grasp for oil revenues.

At each step along the way, the Iraqi leaders have responded only to deadlines-a deadline to transfer authority to a provisional government, a deadline to write a Constitution, a deadline to hold three elections. So we must set another deadline to extricate our troops and get Iraq up on its own two feet-- a clear deadline of July, 2007 to redeploy our combat troops. Make Iraqis stand up for Iraq – and bring our heroes home.

We also desperately need something else this administration disdains: diplomacy. Real diplomacy -- a Dayton-like summit of Iraq and the countries bordering it, the Arab League, NATO, and the Permanent Members of the United Nations Security Council. Our own generals have said Iraq can not be solved militarily. Only through negotiation and diplomacy can you stem the growing civil war, and only by setting a deadline to get out can we force Iraq and its neighbors to take diplomacy seriously.
“Staying the course” isn’t far-sighted; it’s blind. Leaving our troops in the middle of a civil war isn’t resolute; it’s reckless. Half of the service members listed on the Vietnam Memorial Wall died after America's leaders knew our strategy would not work. It was immoral then and it would be immoral now to engage in the same delusion.

Neither can the Administration pretend that the war in Afghanistan is over or that the peace has been secured. On Thursday the president said we’re on the offensive against terrorists in Afghanistan, even as the American NATO commander on the ground showed the opposite is true by making an urgent plea for more troops.

The truth is-- the Bush-Cheney Administration has engaged in a policy of cut and run in that country. This Administration has cut and run while the Taliban-led insurgency is running amok across entire regions of the country. The Administration has cut and run while Osama bin Laden and his henchmen hide and plot in a lawless no-man’s land. They cut and run even as we learn from Pakistani intelligence that the mastermind of the most recent attempt to blow up American airliners was an al Qaeda leader operating from Afghanistan – yes, from Afghanistan. That’s right – the same killers who attacked us on 9/11 are still plotting attacks against America and they’re still holed up in Afghanistan.

To avoid repeating the terrible mistakes of the past, we need to send significant reinforcements to Afghanistan: Start with at least five thousand additional American troops –more elite Special Forces troops, the best counter-insurgency units in the world; more civil affairs forces; and more experienced intelligence units. More predator drones to find the enemy, more helicopters to allow rapid deployments to confront them, and more heavy combat equipment to make sure we can crush the terrorists. And more reconstruction money so that the elected government in Kabul, helped by the United States, not the Taliban, helped by al Qaeda, rebuilds the new Afghanistan.

That’s how you win the hearts and minds of the local population, that’s how you win a war on terror, that’s how you show the world the true face of America.

America needs a national policy that understands we are threatened not just by gun barrels, but by oil barrels. The great treasury of jihadist terrorism is mideast oil. We fund both sides in the war on terror every time we fill up our gas tanks. We know how dependent we are on oil, but it’s not just us. We must liberate the Middle East itself from the tyranny of dependence on petroleum so that the region no longer feeds restive and rising populations of unemployed young people a diet of illusions and rationalizations paid for by our oil money.

Nothing will change if autocratic regimes keep pumping prosperity out of the ground to pay off a new generation with petrodollar welfare checks. We cannot change this if our oil money is sustaining the status quo. We must end the Empire of Oil.

We can’t allow Energy independence to be used as a mere slogan, it has to be a solution. We need a revolutionary set of new policies to promote alternative fuels on a crash basis. This is essential if we are to reverse the tide towards catastrophic global climate change; it is essential to making the United States a leader in vast new opportunities to develop and market clean energy technologies—but most importantly, energy independence is essential to defeating jihadist terrorism and liberating our country from our bondage to tyrannical, hostile, and unstable regimes.

In June -- here at Faneuil Hall -- I unveiled a comprehensive strategy to break our oil addiction. It begins with an aggressive goal: reduce U.S. oil consumption by 2.5 million barrels of oil a day by 2015.

I envision an aggressive timeline to immediately expand the availability and production of renewable fuels and a new fleet of energy-efficient cars, trucks and SUVs. This strategy invests heavily in renewable energy and efficiency. By clearing the pathways to innovation, investing in our workers and infrastructure, and providing American consumers with broader choices, my energy plan will provide the tools to help move America forward, toward real energy security for the 21st Century.

And to really make America safe, it is imperative that we reinforce our homeland defense– starting by doing what should have begun two years ago, and fully implementing the 9/11 Commission’s recommendations. President Bush this week said that Osama bin Laden and the terrorists plan to target America’s ‘weak points.’ Our weak points—our borders, our chemical plants, our railways-- are weak because this administration has the wrong priorities. The President’s tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans are not only unfair and unaffordable: they are taking from homeland security. What we have today from this White House is a pretense of national security on the cheap -- and it must end.

We must rearm ourselves at home. Hurricane Katrina showed us in the most tragic way that the Department of Homeland Security is woefully unprepared to handle a natural disaster we know is coming a week in advance, let alone a catastrophic terrorist attack that takes America by surprise. In 2004, the 9/11 Commission concluded that the Bush Administration should distribute homeland security funding to cities and states based on risk. Yet the Commission’s most recent report card gives the government an “F” because this Administration has cut homeland security funding for the states that need it most – which happen to be blue states -- while distributing funds disproportionately to the red states that need it least. What should count here is the terrorist target list, not the Republican National Committees’ political target list.

To make America safe we must ensure the rapid development and deployment of reliable technologies to detect the secret transport of deadly materials. For $1.5 billion dollars – less than is spent in a week in Iraq – we could purchase the equipment to scan every cargo container bound for U.S. ports to ensure that it does not contain any weapons of mass destruction.

At the same time, we must secure the most dangerous of all weapons at their source—especially in the former Soviet Union—where far too much nuclear material remains dangerously unprotected. We must enhance FBI counterterrorism capabilities at home– an effort that is moving far too slowly because of a lack of urgency from this Administration.

And we must put an end to Washington’s continued inaction to secure our border. Border security backed by immigration reform is actually one area where sensible Democrats and Republicans have come together to forge a compromise. Unfortunately, this proposal has been held hostage to narrow right-wing political interests while our security hangs in the balance.

We must—and let me tell you no matter what the White House wants, the Congress will—reconstitute the Bin Laden unit at the CIA, which the Administration inexplicably disbanded. Maybe they thought that if they weren’t looking for Bin Laden, no one would notice that they weren’t finding him.

So these are four specific steps that will start us on the right path – but they alone will not win the war on terror.

Most important, we need to make America be America again. We must restore our moral authority and global leadership by deploying the full arsenal of our national power with smarter diplomacy, stronger alliances, more effective international institutions -- and fidelity to the values we have always stood for as a nation.

We must remember the great lesson of the Cold War when we led the world to confront a common threat. Genuine global leadership is a strategic imperative for America, not a favor we do for other countries. Leading the world's most advanced democracies isn't mushy multilateralism -- it amplifies America's voice, it extends our reach. Working through global institutions doesn't tie our hands – it gives greater strength and legitimacy to our purposes and dampens the fear and resentment that our overwhelming power sometimes triggers in others.

We need to strengthen international institutions, build alliances that amplify our power and extend the reach of our influence, and remember that even the most powerful nation on the face of the earth needs to make some friends on this planet.

Leadership means talking with countries who aren’t our friends. It means engaging directly when our vital national security interests are at stake – even with countries that we strongly disagree with—because treating dialogue as a means rather than an end can help us achieve our goals. As John Kennedy once said, “we must never negotiate out of fear but we must never fear to negotiate.” If Richard Nixon could send Henry Kissinger to China, surely George Bush can send a real negotiating team to North Korea. If Ronald Reagan could talk to the evil empire, surely we can talk with Iran or Syria.

We must start treating our moral authority as a precious national asset that does not limit our power but magnifies our influence. Only this week did the Administration finally recognize that the protections of the Geneva Convention had to be applied to prisoners in order to comply with the law, restore our moral authority, and best protect American troops. Let me say it plainly: No American president should be for torture before he’s against it.
Anyone who understood the conflict we face could never shrug off the imperative of winning the hearts and minds of Muslim moderates.

We must start leading by example. We should never engage in or excuse violations of basic human rights. We must uphold the rule of law in our own conduct. And we should never accept official lying by our leaders. No White House should ever bully the Director of the CIA to make a case he knows isn’t true – and no White House should reward it with the Medal of Freedom.

To restore our credibility with moderates in the Muslim world and to safeguard Israel’s place in the world, we must renew the search for a lasting peace in the Middle East. We know from the hard lessons of the past that it won’t be easy. But we know from the disasters of the present that it is essential.

I’ve outlined five specific steps to make our nation safer which I believe stand in stark contrast to the Republicans’ failed policies.

So let’s have a real debate. Let’s give all of us—Republicans and Democrats alike—a real “accountability moment” this November.

Let’s stand up for what we believe. It is the only way to win. And it is the only way we will be worthy of winning.

Let the President give his speeches attacking the patriotism of his fellow Americans. Let him play the politics of fear. As Democrats, we choose to offer a real plan to attack the terrorists and free Americans from fear.

And then let the people decide.

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lisainmilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 02:26 AM
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63. WOW...
That was excellent............It was a good feeling to feel some hope for the first time in a while!
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 06:48 AM
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28. Here's the speech as prepared for delivery
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:06 AM
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12. A very independent associate of mine told me earlier today that he'd
missed the Kerry speech.

I gave him holy hell for it.

Told him to catch the replay on C-Span or die in the attempt.

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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:12 AM
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13. Watching now...wonderful speech.
People keep clapping for his points! Glad to see him fired up!

Thanks so much for the tip, great speech, enjoying it! :hi:
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:17 AM
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15. Welcome.
He makes me feel that, perhaps, all is not lost.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:13 AM
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14. Let us know when we can get it on utube or
crooks and liars.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 07:34 AM
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65. ** Video is up at johnkerry.com **
http://www.johnkerry.com/video/

You can also download the audio via podcast from c-span: http://www.c-span.org/podcast/ - scroll down tp Road to the White House.

johnkerry.com may also podcast the video but it isn't up yet (I don't know if you can save the file from the video page).
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 10:15 AM
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68. Thanks. I checked yesterday an I didn't see it.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 07:04 PM
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69. I think it only went up today.
I was happy to see it in any case.

(the asterisks on my post above were for anyone skimming the thread - not meaning to shout at you or anything. ;-) )
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:20 AM
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16. Since midnight of 9/11/06,
Edited on Mon Sep-11-06 12:51 AM by rocknation
I've posted my 9/11 experience, lit a pair of candles in the window, and watched Symbolman's video followed by Jon Stewart's 9/11 speech. Thanks for allowing me to ends the evening on a real "up" note!

:headbang:
rocknation
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:34 AM
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17. I'm one of the lucky ones who was there in Faneuil Hall for this.
Something you miss on C-Span is the sheer numbers of people that were there. It was packed and the crowd was enthusiastic (to say the least). He didn't just get polite applause: he brought down the house.

It was an incredible speech and I just finished my third C-Span viewing.

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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 06:55 AM
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29. People also stayed around for nearly an hour afterwards
It took him that long to get out of the hall. he then signed autographs and moved towards his car, followed by a sea of people. (Among others, he spoke to a group of 4 or 5 Ethiopian immigrants who asked an aide if they could speak to him for a minute.

He did get a huge amount of applause. The longest standing ovation was probably when he spoke against the president being for torture before he was against it - everyone I was with commented on the huge grin he got when that line was wildly applauded.
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smomfr Donating Member (227 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 10:54 AM
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41. Was the crowd properly screened?
:sarcasm:
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 11:03 AM
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42. Nah, you know us Democrats, we let any old soul in
Unlike the Repubs who demand everything but a blood test to get in. (Ahm, what a minute, now that I think of it, they probably do require a blood test. Bastids.)
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 11:48 AM
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46. You mean like a Bush speech? Nope. They even broadcast it
outside Faneuil Hall for those who couldn't fit inside. :)
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:26 PM
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50. Only people allowed to wander around downtown Boston
Edited on Mon Sep-11-06 12:27 PM by karynnj
were able to be there. :) (I was surprised when the group of 4 or 5 Ethiopean imigrants very politely asked a Kerry staffer if they could speak to the Senator for a minute. The staffer said that he would be coming out that door soon. He did have a short conversation with them. It was really nice seeing a prominent Senator so accessible to his constituents.)

I did see - and understand the sarcasm - I was just impressed how open it was.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:37 PM
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52. I like that part
It think it's a 'feature' not a 'bug' for Faneuil Hall. Sooner or later, everyone comes out the main door. (I am unaware of any back entrance to the place.)

We are all citizens, we are all accountable and a person who is not accessible to their own voters is just plain wrong. (That would be completely wrong at Faneuil Hall, the Cradle of Liberty. )

I really enjoyed talking with the Ethiopians present, including the very cute and smart little girl. They were very nice people who now live in the Boston area. (Ahm, that makes Kerry their Senator too, even if they can't vote. They are paying taxes after all. Senators should be accessible to the voters, to critics and to the general citizenry. This is what the Repubs forget, but not good Dems.)
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 02:13 PM
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54. I didn't realize it was the only exit from the hall
because there were the exits - I guess from the lower floor. I just thought the aide was being nice telling them that Kerry was coming that way. That kid was super super cute.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 03:57 PM
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59. LOL!
:rofl:
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 11:16 AM
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43. He seemed genuinely grateful for our support over that line.
It was a very touching moment as well as a triumphant moment. That grin was so adorable. Sometimes people forget that politicians are people. Sure they have to be thick-skinned, but the crap over one misspeak (when Bsh gets away with dozens of them) had to suck.


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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 07:08 PM
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61. when he smiles like that
I always see the little boy inside the man. He's that genuine.

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pbartch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:37 AM
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18. WHAT DID HE SAY??????
IS THERE TEXT OF HIS SPEECH?
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:51 AM
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21. Scroll up fo the transcript.
I just posted it for a previous poster.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:56 AM
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23. Thank you.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:55 AM
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22. I don't know if there's a transcript up anywhere, yet.
One of the most memorable things he said, just before he wrapped up, brought the house down.
He said, in the context of boosh now claiming to take the high road-that we don't torture-was (paraphrasing) that no president of the united states should be "for torture before he was against it!"
He spared no neoclown-nut feelings, pointing out the numerous failings of this idiot administration and what a liar cheney is and what a bumbling failure rumsfailed is.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:41 AM
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19. I watched the Kerry
speech and if this man had made sense as he did in this speech back in 2004 he would be president, but NOOOOOOOOOOOOO he had to play nice, but I am not concerned about Kerry because from the word I get Al Gore said in Australia over the weekend that he has not completely closed the door on another run for the presidency....I could go along with that, and if he decided to run, then I see Gore taking the ticket as Hillary bows out because she has not committed and thus she will be the new Majority Leader in the Senate come 2009....The ticket is Gore/Clark
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 01:19 AM
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24. Had fellow Dems backed him up, he would have been
Edited on Mon Sep-11-06 01:26 AM by politicasista
Not to mention, having a fair and balanced media that would have told the truth.

As far as who is running or not, alot will depend on what happens in the 06 elections. That's where our focus should be right now and I imagine that's where Kerry, Gore and Clark, and Hillary's focus is too.


And I like Gore.
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Unbowed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 02:13 AM
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26. I don't know where you were in 2004.
I heard Kerry give a lot of damn good speeches in '04. He even warned us what would happen if Bush were elected again.

Did anyone listen? Nooooo. The media didn't cover it. They would take one sound bite (out of context, of course)and present him in the worst possible light. What was represented as John Kerry wasn't even close to being the same guy that I saw on the streets of my town shaking hands and laughing with little kids or kicking ASS in speeches in large auditoriums. He drew huge crowds of people who waited in line hours just to listen to him and (if lucky) shake his hand.

News flash for ya: that's not ABB. Not by a frigging long shot!

There was something different in this speech in that it (like recent speeches) have been single-topic speeches. You don't have the luxury to do that during an election. You can hone in and come off tougher when you are on a single topic than when you are trying to outline an entire plan for country and foreign policy in under an hour: the environment, the war, the economy, job creation, immigration, health care, social security, civil liberties, etc.

Gore, Clark, Hillary and 2008 are completely off topic. It is a bit petty (I want my Dem not your Dem) to bring up who YOU WANT in 2008. Well Bully for you! I'm sorry if you are "concerned" about John Kerry. (How would you like it if people started posting how concerned they are about Gore possibly deciding TO run? Let me put it this way: saying things about John Kerry because you support Gore honestly does not speak well of Gore supporters. A word to the wise: a candidate is also judged by his or her supporters.)

Frankly, I'm happy to have John Kerry or anyone else speaking out: certainly someone has to! So let the rest of us worry about 2006 because if we don't start doing that there may not be a 2008. If Bush retains Congress these bastards will feel invincible. What has happened to us thus far will be just the warm-up to be assured.

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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 07:30 AM
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32. Also, this issue is for NOW
Edited on Mon Sep-11-06 07:49 AM by karynnj
As important as 2008 will be, getting Iraq right and dealing with all the threats is the most important thing followed by having a great answer to "Democrats are weak on security" for the 2006 elections.

After the London success in stopping the plane plot, conservatives like George Will said that "Kerry was right" on how to deal with in 2004. The Clinton/DLC Democrats need to let Kerry lead on this - he clearly has a strong, easy to understand message on this and this has been a subject he spoke up on in the 90s when many thought he was making to much of these threats. I know they fear his 2008 ambitions, but for once they need to put the country and party ahead of their "restoration" hopes.

I sent the text to a relative - a WWII veteran who has mostly voted Republican. (He did vote for Kerry.) Part of what he wrote back was:

"It is a fine speech and a specific plan for moving forward in a complex dangerous situation that does not yield to the force we are attempting to apply. My heart breaks for the troops who are bravely paying for this with their young blood. It is more than anyone has ever done in appealing for the support to the American people in the past twelve years."

This is the type of response we need. IT IS A PLAN. People are beginning to see that marketing slogans are not plans - whether Republican or Democratic.

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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 07:45 AM
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33. Spot On
I couldn't have said it better, thank you for the reality check.

Welcome to DU :hi:
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 11:57 AM
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49. I agree!
He was fantastic in 2004 but he had to touch on every subject in every speech. It is much easier to be come off as tough when you narrow down the subject. A great example of this is a football coach inspiring the team.

This speech was about terrorism and I loved the way Senator Kerry tied it into the way the Bsh Administration is going to use fear to retain Congress. He even went on the record with a warning about the new terror alert we can expect before the election.

You are right, 2006 is where we have to focus. I too am afraid what they will do if we don't succeed in November, 2008 may well be too late.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 05:37 PM
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60. Well said!
and welcome to DU!

:hi:
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 07:09 AM
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30. He did make this much sense
Other than the one hour convention speech and the 3 debates, how often did the media show unfiltered Kerry. Instead, you got their reporter saying "Kerry was in --- and said --- about Bush. In the background, you could see Kerry speaking in a tight shot designed to show as little of the crowd as possible. Kerry gave a speech, now recognized as good by people like George Will even, on homeland defense at the University of Pennsylvania. It, plus an Iraq (at NYU), and a few domestic policy speeches were designated as major policy speeches. In the past, the media would have covered them well - they didn't.

Gore's comment is interesting, but there have been somewhat similar comments before, followed by more negative ones - he is clearly trying to make up his mind. I also think he realizes that this nomination would have to be fought for. I don't see Hillary backing out, unless something unusual happens. He also will at minimum likely have Kerry and Edwards will be fighting for it.
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 01:47 AM
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25. Awesome speech from Kerry, and I like Gore as well........
It does look like we may have a party worth voting for people !!!!

:kick:
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 07:18 AM
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31. Caught the c-span replay last night myself - definitley excellent
I dunno about "very best of his life" but it was damned good.

I personally thought the very best was on April 22nd this year, also in Faneuil Hall, commemorating the 35th anniversary of his SFRC speech. Of course, I liked that one best because I had the privilege of seeing it in person!

I realized when I first saw Kerry speak in person, on Oct. 25 2004 in Philly, that it is SO important to see this man speak in person. Intentional or not, the media totally misrepresented him in the bits and pieces of his speeches that they chose to air in 2004.

A full replay is the next best thing of course. Although it doesn't replicate the sense of electricity that one feels at the event itself.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 07:47 AM
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34. Totally agree,
Edited on Mon Sep-11-06 07:47 AM by karynnj
In person, he is the most charismatic person I have ever seen.

This was a very serious, content rich speech, but there were so many times that he connected on a very personal level with the crowd there - most notably when he said "for torture before he was against it", Kerry's grin when the crowd reacted was infectious - the place was filled with smiles.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 11:38 AM
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45. Ah - that was one part I missed
I actually couldn't watch the whole speech (believe me I had a very good reason for skipping out on a bit of it) but I taped it and will watch it completely tonight. I saw most of it and he was kicking ass, but that little bit must have been while I had to step out of the room for a minute.

I am looking forward to watching again tonight and I *will* look for that part!
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 07:48 AM
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35. I thought it was a good speech as well
Edited on Mon Sep-11-06 07:50 AM by TayTay
I have been able to see all of the Faneuil Hall speeches that Sen. Kerry has done this year and this one and the one from April were really, really good. (I still love the April 22nd speech the most. There was something about that speech that was cathartic to hear; I imagine it also must have been cathartic to give as well.)

I also saw the Senator speak in Washington DC this year at the Take Back America conference. His speech there was also fascinating. There was a need to speak of the war in moral terms, terms that did have an echo back to the famous 1971 speech before the Foreign Relations Committee:

Let me say it plainly. Let me say it plainly. It's not enough to argue with the logistics or to argue about the details or the manner of the conflict's execution or the failures of competence, as great as they are. It is essential to acknowledge that the war itself was a mistake. To say the simple words. To say -- to say the simple words that contain more truth than pride.

We were misled. We were given evidence that was not true. It was wrong, and I was wrong to vote for that Iraqi war resolution.


More truth than pride, hmmmmm. More and more Kerry's speeches contain the word immoral. This war is not just wrong-headed and wasteful and built on lies; it is immoral. That is a very different argument from what a lot of other Dems are using and it is not without risk. (You cannot go back from calling something immoral, that is a personal Rubicon that has been crossed.)

I remember voting for John Kerry for US Senator in 1984. I remember that the other person who ran against him in the primary had virtually the same positions on the issues. I voted for Kerry because he was a former prosecutor and because there was that sense that he had a depth of caring about the issues of right and wrong in a moral way. (This is a tricky thing to write about. This type of thing can turn into pomposity without just the right touch.) I am very pleased to hear these speeches. That is not only who I voted for in 2004, it is who I voted for in 1984, someone who would take corruption, lies and outright deception not as some sort of cost of doing business for government, but as a serious breach of the public trust and something that cannot be morally tolerated. Yeah, that's the guy I voted for and these speeches remind me of that. I am very glad he is my Senator and I am very glad that I voted for him every time I saw his name on a ballot.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 02:07 PM
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53. We have such a plethora of fine talent on this side of the
Edited on Mon Sep-11-06 02:08 PM by EST
honesty and integrity line; a veritable surfeit of finely honed talent and, as the bitter ashes are rising in republiclown mouths, a growing realization that even democrats, famous for a reputation of tolerance, can reach a breaking point.

Goody two-shoes, no matter how important in the scheme of greasing the gears of a not too well meshed society, is of little value when facing up to the disruptors and berserkers of civilization.

The problem I have is that every time I hear the new democrats stand up for real human values and respect, I say, "Wow, now that's presidential material!"

With the battle that goes on in my own mind, I can truly imagine the discussion that is going to accompany our actual selection.
We have to reach a strong consensus, trying our individual bests, to ascertain who really is the very best we have to offer for the humongous job of turning this country around and starting the immense damage control and repair.

We need that very, very best. How in the hell can we really tell?
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 02:49 PM
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58. Your post sort of reminds me of a new freeper book I saw, in a good way
David Limbaugh (Who the F is that anyway? Rush's retarded baby brother?) has a new book out called "Bankrupt" subtitled some bullshit like "The moral and intellectual bankruptcy of the Democratic party." The cover shot is a BEAUTIFUL picture of the 2004 Democratic National Convention, with Kerry, Edwards, Clinton, Gore, Dean, Clark, Sharpton, Gephardt, and Carter (I hope I didn't forget anyone in the pic) all standing on stage together, smiling and laughing and looking so hopeful. I laughed because the picture illustrated the exact opposite of what the brainless Limbaugh clone was trying to convey - there was more honor, intelligence, integrity, and goodness in that single picture than in the ENTIRE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

Your post about the plethora of talent and goodness among Dems just reminded me of how I felt upon seeing that book.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 11:16 PM
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62. Excellent question - but I think the answer is we really never know
Edited on Mon Sep-11-06 11:16 PM by karynnj
We will only be able to evaluate the one choosen and not know the other paths.

My guess is that as 2008 approaches, we will first each have some view on what the most significant issues are. Based on that, we will likely each look at the candidates to determine who could lead on each issue. It may be that upon looking, one candidate will look head and shoulders better than the others. In the past, judging by the primary votes on open seats - that is rarely the case. (To some degree it happened in 2004 - though people here disagree on the reasons, Kerry really won the primaries easily, even though the media would have preferred more excitement with the race having many turns.)

If I had to say right now, an excellent President would need to be able to:

- Win respect of the rest of the world, as a person who can listen rather than just dictate. The trick is to listen while also radiating leadership and respect for otehrs.
- Have a world view that makes sense and will guide foreign policy actions. It appears the President has more unilateral power on these issues.
- Have the committment and compassion to be able to do right by those who were in the military - so they can be reabsorbed into the community and get any assistance they need.
- Have a sense of the history of this country, so he/she could call on those historical values as guides to being the country we would be proud of.

These are mostly big picture and all revolve around helping the country refind its soul. It will take a very special statesman to lead after trust has been so seriously abused. In parallel to doing these things, the President will have to be able to help animousities heal. This will take someone who can lead by both demanding accountability, but having the ability to give an example by forgiving others.

In a way, this ability is at least as important as having the best plan on ----. Obviously, a good candidate would have to exceed some threshold in terms of quality of plans.

I know which candidate I would pick as having these qualities, but I seriously think that most people would see their favorite as being that person.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 08:23 AM
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36. Is the speech anywhere on the net to be watched? I was not
able to watch either C-Span viewings.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 08:36 AM
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37. It should be up as a pod-cast on C-Span
as part of their Road to the White House series. I think they update this on Mondays, so sometime later on today.

There should also be a pod-cast at the political site: johnkerry.com.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 11:36 AM
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44. C-span podcast link
http://www.c-span.org/podcast/

It's not up yet but should be soon.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 08:44 AM
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38. Absolutely great speech from a great man.
I just love these series of speeches he has given recently. They are in line with keeping with the promises he made during the campaign and it shows he still is looking out for us.
Oh, of course, the Repubs are already on the attack and they haven't even seen or heard what he said. How sad they would rather sloganize and dismiss others who are willing to work with them to resolve the serious problems facing this country.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 08:58 AM
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39. That's cuz all they have is the fear card
Remember that part of the speech:

FDR said all we have to fear is fear itself
For the Republicans all they have is fear itself.

They have to smear and slur people because there is nothing else in the cupboard at all.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 09:11 AM
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40. Oh, I forgot that good line. n/t
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 02:25 PM
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56. Wow. Just READING it gives me goosebumps.
Go, John, go!!!
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 02:33 PM
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57. Agreed -- that speech is a 10.0 on the Goosebump Index.
For me, it serves as a perfect model for how language dignifies history. People think that history is dull, but it never is; those struggling to understand may be overwhelmed, but the events overwhelming them are not dull.

Kerry was rightly elected. Bush-Cheney cheated in Ohio -- and very possible elsewhere -- and Kerry-Edwards won in Ohio, and therefore were elected to the presidency in 2004.

If public service is a matter of grafting the individual and the personal gift to the common and universal need, then self-determination is essential.

Joan Didion writes, "The ability to think for oneself depends on one's mastery of the language."

I believe Joan Didion is absolutely correct.

Now consider John Kerry's speech again, and then next to it, anything that has come out of Dubya's mouth for the duration of his adult life.

There are hundreds of reasons why Kerry is qualified to be the president. Command of language, and therefore the ability to think for himself, is one of the main reasons.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 06:50 AM
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70. One of the best!
And there were many!
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