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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:45 PM
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Poll question: What Do You Think Will Happen With With The Bullshit abc PT9-11 Movie?
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Sam Odom Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:48 PM
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1. I voted 1st choice BUT
The 'uncensored' DVD will be hawked by all of the RW radio guys
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:49 PM
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2. I bet it all shows and it's worse than we thought.
The RWers who put this together knew what they were doing and they aren't going to let a little bad publicity get in their was or creating their new reality.
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Sam Odom Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:50 PM
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3. I dont think it makes BushCo look good either n/t
n/t
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:05 PM
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13. Here's my problem with that...
Edited on Fri Sep-08-06 11:06 PM by LostInAnomie
... the first part is a complete hit piece on Clinton, according to Joan Walsh from salon.com. They portray Clinton as a buffoon, incompetent, and ineffectual. They intersperse made up failures with Lewinsky clips. And they make Sandy Berger and Madeline Albright look like fools.

The second half is *'s half. They forget to show the seven minutes where he sits glass-eyed. Sometime during the second half * gets to break in and give a propaganda speech where he is sure to demagogue 9/11 and attack Democrats. Following that they will return to PT9/11 and probably pick up from *'s rubble scene.

This movie will be nothing but a RW puff piece. They are trying to build a consensus among the ignorant that Clinton enabled OBL and that * was the hero of 9/11. ABC knows what they are doing.
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Sam Odom Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:09 PM
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14. We will have to wait and see BUT
I heard the sole writer (forget his name) of this 'thing' say today that Bush & Clinton look bad. Of course Bill had 8yrs to look bad while Bush had months.
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:29 PM
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17. Yeah, I'm sure he makes * look horrible.
He's a good friend of pill-poppin' Limpballs. His idea of making Bush* look bad is probably not giving his character a big enough cod piece when he's standing on the the rubble of his fuck up.

If there was so much material to make Clinton look bad with he shouldn't have had to make up shit out of whole cloth.

The point of the movie should not be to make anyone look bad. It should be to give a factual retelling without spinning it to someone's advantage.
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Sam Odom Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:32 PM
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18. "He's a good friend of pill-poppin' Limpballs"
I didnt know that... You have a web link ?
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:44 PM
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19. Here's what Rush said about the writer...
Edited on Fri Sep-08-06 11:46 PM by LostInAnomie
... "A friend of mine out in California has produced and filmed — I think it’s a two-part mini-series on 9/11 that ABC is going to run in prime-time over two nights, close to or on 9/11. It’s sort of surprising that ABC’s picked it up, to me. I’ve had a lot of people tell me about it, my friends told me about it…And from what I have been told, the film really zeros in on the shortcomings of the Clinton administration in doing anything about militant Islamofascism or terrorism during its administration. It cites failures of Bill Clinton and Madeleine Albright and Sandy Burglar."

http://thinkprogress.org/?tag=Media

*on edit* The link also has a lot of information about how far Right the writer is, and what he has said in the past.

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Sam Odom Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:45 PM
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20. Thx, I was speaking of the WRITER
Edited on Fri Sep-08-06 11:46 PM by Sam Odom
Seems, Rush said Producer. I will see if I can find his name
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:47 PM
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21. Cyrus Nowrasteh
He's the writer too.
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Sam Odom Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 12:08 AM
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24. Check out
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0473404/

Maybe he is the one Rush spoke of... I dunno. But checkout Cyrus Nowrasteh (click on his name) he's wrote some non-rightwing stuff
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 12:17 AM
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27. I've read enough about the writer, director,
TFI, YWAM, etc. to make the conclusion that this is a RW hit piece. If you need more info though here's a link to my thread about Salon's review of the movie: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2088874&mesg_id=2088874
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4bucksagallon Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 12:09 AM
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25. Never heard of him b4.
The film is a controversial docudrama being aired by ABC/Walt Disney but was initiated by a Christian activist organization Youth With A Mission (YWAM), through their auxiliary - The Film Institute (TFI). The project has been criticized as having a political agenda and for fictionalizing the lead-up to 9/11 in order to redirect blame to the Clinton administration. <4>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrus_Nowrasteh
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Sam Odom Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 12:12 AM
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26. The Day Reagan Was Shot writer (2001)
Edited on Sat Sep-09-06 12:14 AM by Sam Odom
I remember the fundies/RW'ers getting pissed about this

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0271454/

He was "Lefty" then :)
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:51 PM
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4. Other: they'll show a slightly edited version, then get their ASSES SUED!
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:53 PM
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6. That Sounds GREAT TO Me!
We won't need to raise a red cent for 2008. Apparently ABC will foot the biil! What a bunch of chumps!
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Sam Odom Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:53 PM
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7. No way
This dog&pony show will have disclaimers out of the ass
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:56 PM
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10. They will have their asses SUED OFF....
Disclaimers my ass!

With all the lawyers that have been warning them =NOT= to air it?

If they play, they pay.
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Sam Odom Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:58 PM
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12. I hate to break the news to you
Edited on Fri Sep-08-06 10:59 PM by Sam Odom
ABC have more lawyers than an all white country club. ABC will have their asses covered.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:10 PM
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15. Who's side are you on anyway Sam?
Within 6 months of the POS flick airing, ABC News will no longer exist.

Mickey and Goofy will be toast.

And I'll be asking you how you want your bird served..


(p.s. Let's just agree to disagree! )
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Sam Odom Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:13 PM
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16. Well... who here thinks
ABC will not have disclaimers and have not had their lawyers working overtime to cover their ass?
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:52 PM
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5. They will show it but no one will tune in
Edited on Fri Sep-08-06 10:53 PM by C_U_L8R
those that do will realize in about two minutes
that republicans suck just as much at filmmaking
as they do at everything else
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:55 PM
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9. What About The Ted Koppel Alternative on Discovery?
Maybe we should get a list of alternate things to watch on 9-11. Hey DUers, how about a list of suggestions?
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ktowntennesseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:54 PM
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8. I said "other"
They'll show it, claim they've left tons of controversial footage on the cutting room floor, claim they bent over backwards to appease all the unpatriotic liberals in America, it will still be a biased piece of crap, and large portions of the viewing audience (particularly those who believe soap operas and wrestling are real) will be convinced that everything thing they watched was the gospel truth.
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Mend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:57 PM
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11. in the nick of time, all the great singing groups will have a
huge concert on NBC at the same time. The money they raise will go to all the victims of 911, Katrina, and war vets. Everyone in America will watch the 911-Aid concert instead of some crap on abc.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:52 PM
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22. Since they no longer have Monday Night Football....
...there's absolutely no reason I'd ever watch that network again, because that was the only show I watched on ABC anyway. I'm sure I'm not alone.
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MattP Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 12:03 AM
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23. They still have MNF
They do still have MNF, they own ESPN!
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 12:23 AM
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28. They'll yank it...
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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 01:04 AM
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29. I think it will be CANCELLED AND SHOWN ON CABLE!
Edited of course and with numerous disclaimers........
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