Please watch ABC's "The Path to 9/11" on Sun & Mon

[AZBlue]

And then take action.

I have seen quite a few DU'ers state they won't watch this disgusting misrepresentation. And, I understand. It will be infuriating, frustrating and disheartening, to say the least.

But, at least as much as we've complained and protested about it before it's happened, we have to fight back after it's over. We can't let it just go. Once the uneducated and uninformed in this country watch the "movie," they will believe it, they will think it's true - unless we stand up and point out the lies and inconsistencies, one by one. Letters to the Editor, posts online (not just DU - you're "preaching to the choir" here), more e-mails and letters to ABC and Disney...this will help counteract the damage that will be done by this film. It won't reverse it completely, but it will help - a lot.

We can't intelligently fight something we don't know. That's the Bush way of doing things. No, we have to watch - and reply with the truth.

Let's take a page from the Republicans here - when they don't like something, they are LOUD. And don't give up. And, unlike the Reps, we have the truth on our side, so we have even more reason to speak out.

on edit....oh, I've had a long day, don't ask....

[question everything]

1. You mean, ABC..

[AZBlue]

6. Um yeah....long day.

DUH!!

[Common Sense Party]

10. I'm not about to bitch about and call for censorship of something

I haven't even seen.

That's as stupid as the religious wackos complaining about "DaVinci Code" without ever reading it or seeing it. Or as closed-minded as the pukes censoring the Reagan movie.

I will watch it, check the facts and raise hell if it's B.S.

I think the American people are smart enough to smell B.S.

If I hear someone call our citizens "sheeple" one more time, I think I will scream.

[The_Casual_Observer]

2. That's a great idea, everybody ought to tune into CBS

[flyarm]

3. we know the truth..we do not have to watch propaganda to know truth

i will never watch this bullshit!

from a flight crew ( now retired) of one of the airlines involved.
fly

[True_Blue]

4. I won't watch it

I don't need to smell garbage to know it stinks.

In fact, I probably won't ever watch ABC again.

[AZBlue]

7. So you're just going to let them get away with it - without fighting back?

eom

[True_Blue]

11. I said I wouldn't watch it. I didn't say I wouldn't fight back

I'll fight back by boycotting ABC and their sponsors. Boycotts work if they are large enough. Sometimes even the mere threat of a boycott works. If all of the Democrats united and boycotted ABC and their sponsors we could bring them to their senses real quick.

[eccles12]

13. Won't watch, won't. But will fight back. nt

[mnhtnbb]

5. How about someone taking up donations to put full page

ads in major print publications with a summary of facts disputing
the fantasy in the series?

Anyone who can organize these ads? MoveOn? Others?

[AZBlue]

8. Great idea! Is there a Blue ad agency??

If there's an ad agency that's Dem, they'll et a better rate...and we'll need less money!

[razors edge]

9. History

is a cruel joke, played upon the vanquished,

before an audience that dares not laugh.

rivero

[RamboLiberal]

12. I'm going to watch it - I want to see what we are criticizing

I want the ammunition to back up my criticism. But from the reviews I'm reading I might have trouble staying awake. Entertainment Weekly gave it a bad review. So did my local TV critic tonight.

[AZBlue]

14. Exactly!

Although I know what you mean about struggling to stay awake...on top of bad reviews, it's four hours! UGH!

[OneBlueSky]

15. actually, it's hard to understand how anyone can criticize it . . .

without watching it . . . weren't we critical of the right wingers who lambasted Fahrenheit 911 without even seeing it? . . . and justifiably so . . . this is no different . . .

[Luminous Animal]

17. Well,

There are documented refutations of depicted "facts". So much so, that the ABC filmmaker has admitted it.

"NYT: Disney/ABC filmmaker admits they just made stuff up "
http://americablog.blogspot.com/2006/09/nyt-disneyabc-filmmaker-admits-they.html

You read that right... THEY MADE STUFF UP!


As hard as the wingnuts tried to prove that Mike 'just made stuff up", they were thoroughly smacked down by facts.

[sandnsea]

19. I think some have seen it though

And are aware that there are scenes that are never remotely happened, and there's a quote from someone involved in the film about a scene that wasn't even in the script - is just totally made up. So it isn't like the criticism is totally without basis in fact.

[Luminous Animal]

16. I am 100% sure that I will be able to see it for free...

So screw that. I have no doubt that I will be able to view it on the internets (that is, if the tubes aren't all clogged up) and/or read a transcript.

In fact, I can guarantee I will be able to view it before it is broadcast. But, IN ANY CASE, I will not give ABC the satisfaction of my viewership. Not in this case, nor in the future. And I am a HUGE Grey's Anatomy fan. It'll hurt but I am tough enough to take it.

[sandnsea]

18. Watch and take notes

We have to be ready to rebut immediately and the only way to do it is to watch. I'm not going to be caught off guard by one voter because I didn't watch the stupid movie.

[robcon]

20. I'll watch. Let's see if the hype is as bad as the movie.

I'll respond on DU on Monday and Tuesday on what I see.

[Dinger]

21. I'll Read All About It On DU, It'll Be A COLD DAY IN HELL Before I watch

it, period.

[AZBlue]

27. How can you have read all about it? No one's seen it yet.

Making uneducated assumptions and criticizing things without knowing them are SOP of the GOP...I thought Dems were above that. How disappointing.

[Dinger]

33. I Never Said I've Read All About It

I said I WILL read about it on DU from people who watch it. And there are several rwers who have seen it, but the people it slanders (Clinton, Berger, Albright, among others) have been refused.

[calimary]

22. This is a VERY important statement, AZBlue:

"Let's take a page from the Republicans here - when they don't like something, they are LOUD. And don't give up. And, unlike the Reps, we have the truth on our side, so we have even more reason to speak out."

Whether you can stomach the actual viewing of this fabrication or not, it's STILL important to make YOUR views known. The bad guys never hesitate, and the result is - they take on a PERCEPTION of being MUCH bigger and more powerful a movement than they actually are, in terms of sheer numbers. WE are actually the bigger movement. More people are against the war and don't think it's got much to do with terrorism, etc. But we have been the real "Silent Majority." When we don't speak up, it's as good as "we don't exist." The old cliche about the squeaky wheel getting the grease was never more relevant than now.

You HAVE to speak up. As the Howard Beale character said in the movie "Network," "first, you've got to get mad. And then you need to go outside and yell - 'I'm as mad as HELL, and I'm NOT going to take it anymore!'" ABC and WHATEVER other offender it is - NEEDS to hear of your discontent. The wrong-wing never hesitated to let their discontent with Clinton show - and just look where it got us. I mean, this very TV show itself is proof.

If they think you don't care, THEY WON'T, EITHER.

[AZBlue]

28. You are so right!

Just like the Moral Majority is neither, the GOP represents a loud minority who is very clever at making themselves look much bigger and more influential than they really are. And that's how they influence public opinion. Your point about Clinton is perfect - the majority of Americans still believe the Clintons broke the law in the Whitewater situation despite the fact that time and time again they were proven completely innocent of any and all wrongdoing. Look at Iraq - as of just last week, 30% of Americans STILL believe that Saddam was involved in 9/11!! We MUST start being louder about the truth - the lies are drowning us out!

[Contrary1]

23. Count me among the non-viewers...

I've seen enough clips to make a judgment.

Besides, I've already written ABC to let them know I won't be watching, along with any of their other programming.

Can't be a liar, that would make me too much like...them.

[Spaceman Spiff]

24. I'm not gonna watch it

And I'm not gonna say shit about it.

Let the people who hemmed and hawed about the Ronald Reagan movie come out looking like dip shits.

(Is "dip shit" one word or two?)

[gulliver]

25. "We" can't respond effectively. The "stars" have to.

The blogs can argue all they want, but it won't mean a thing. The way to counterract a media event is with another media event. I'm not talking about showing F911 either. Clinton, Clarke, Tenet, Albright, etc. have to find a way to respond in prime time with at least as big an audience as ABC's trash. Those folks have to defend themselves or the followers of the 7-minute-wonder will score.

[oasis]

26. To knowingly view right wing propaganda is a waste of precious time.

:puke:

[AtomicKitten]

29. My son assures me my head will explode if I watch it

A very sensible post and I hope people mull it over before summarily dismissing it.

You are right that we cannot emulate the Rs and bitch without actually seeing it (which is precisely why ABC has failed to give advance copies to anyone other than the choir to whom they are preaching). We complain that the Rs bitched about F9/11 without having seen it, and I for one hate to be that which I despise. And I do so agree that we need to take a page from their playbook and complain LOUD and often.

Good post, AZBlue.

[AZBlue]

32. Thanks.

And, yes, I'm going to have to make sure there are only soft, light objects within reach as I watch it...or my TV will become the latest in a long line of Bush victims!

[AtomicKitten]

34. NERF!!!!

[trotsky]

30. There's one big difference here.

When drug-addicted radio hosts who have already seen it are gushing over how well it blames the Clinton administration for everything, I don't know that I really need to watch it myself.

[Mad_Dem_X]

35. EXACTLY - some have already seen it

and said how it portrays Clinton et al. I'm not about to watch this piece of filth.

[LynneSin]

31. Even if this thing was 110% accurate I wouldn't watch it

Hell I lived through the day and I've read the 9/11 Commission report. I pretty much know how it started and how it ended

[City Lights]

36. ABC is dead to me.

Damage is already done.

[wiley]

37. No Disney, No ABC - but I'll continue to let them hear me, especially FCC

All school children should be granted permission to miss school tomorrow, which by showing this crap they will be doing anyway. Will any Republican candidates or elected officials be at the schools to follow up on this blatant propaganda?

[JohnWxy]

38. CBC will be airing an actual documentary on the subject - for those

who want to see an actual investigation of the subject.

This will be much more legitimate than anything the U.S. Corporate networks will broadcast.

[Mountainman]

39. No thanks, I make it a point not to put right wing bull shit on my agenda

I'll read all about it here without being subjected to the propaganda which is all right wing media is anymore.

[Penndems]

40. We don't watch network television here in the Penndems household

The only shows we've viewed since Mr. Penndems and I got married over five years ago have been "Who Wants To Be A Millionaire?", "The West Wing", and college/pro football, basketball and baseball. We'll probably watch Aaron Sorkin's new show Monday night, but that's about it. There's too much good programming on cable to succumb to the drivel that's being fed to the American public now.

I worked with Dick Clarke, and in the Clinton White House. Why the hell would I bother to watch what I know (thanks to the umpteen hundreds of threads on DU) is gonna be a fabricated, politically-slanted crock of crap? :shrug:

[cranston36]

41. Anti-American Propaganda designed to make Osama Bin Laden look like a hero

Walt Disney is a big company.
A big American company to be exact.
They own ABC.
ABC is the American Broadcasting Company.
They are going to put a bit of anti-American propaganda on television shortly.
The title of the show is ‘The Path to 9/11’.
They are not going to have any commercials with it. They are saying they are not having commercials because airing this two part fiction is a ‘public service announcement’.
During time of war it is inappropriate for a national television company to throw dirt on our country by turning the 9/11 assault into a two part soap opera - commercial free or not.
This five hour movie is scheduled to be broadcast this coming Sunday and Monday.
September 10th and September 11th.
That’s right - ‘The Path to 9/11’ will play on 9/11 as a product of the Disney Corporation.
Who is responsible for this travesty and insult to America?
Let’s take a look at one of the writers.
This 40 million dollar project was written by Cyrus Nowrasteh.
He wrote a scene where a high level government official slams down the phone on a concerned CIA agent.
He admits he made the scene up.
He admits he made most of the dialog, situations and action up.
The only thing that remains real is apparently the date, 9/11, and the tragedy that unfolded that day when the maniac terrorists flew airplanes loaded with innocent people into the World Trade Center in broad daylight in New York City.
“Sandy Berger did not slam down the phone,” Mr. Nowrasteh is widely quoted as saying, “That is not in the report. That was not scripted. But you know when you’re making a movie, a lot of things happen on set that are unscripted. Accidents occur, spontaneous reactions of actors performing a role take place. It’s the job of the filmmaker to say, ‘You know, maybe we can use that.’ ”
Gov. Thomas H. Kean of New Jersey, who was head of the 9/11 commission that came to all those conclusions that were eventually ignored was apparently paid as a senior consultant to the mini-series.

Here is more about Cyrus Nowratesh - the writer that Disney is going to help make Osama Bin Laden a heroic figure for millions of Americans on 9/11/2006 after his murderous rampage on 9/11/2001.
Nowrasteh first broke into the entertainment business 1983 when he rewrote a project called ’Bikers’ for Universal.
He is quoted as saying that his first job was a disaster because he tried "to please everybody."
Well, ‘The Path to 9/11’ should be a success in the mind of Nowratesh who seems to have taken great pains to please Osama Bin Laden.
He wrote television series scripts for about 5 years and then started writing things like 'Murder At Nha Trang' which seems to have been about American soldiers murdering their officers in Vietnam.
He also wrote a screenplay called 'Norma Jean, Jack, And Me', about a bum who washes up on an island and finds Marilyn Monroe and JFK alive and well.
Not to stay out of American politics long, Cyrus Nowrasteh wrote and directed the Paramount/Showtime production The Day Reagan Was Shot.
He seems interested in the criminal, murderous mind and is said to be working on a four-hour mini-series on John Dillinger - noted bank robber and murderer - a terrorist himself from 1930’s rural America.
His wife, Betsy Giffen Nowrasteh, is also a well connected screenwriter.
Her contribution to modern cinema and literature is a movie called ‘Bad Day on the Block’.
It is about a decorated Los Angeles firefighter who saved a baby's life in a crack-house fire but left the baby's mother to die in the fire because he believed any mother who takes a baby into a crack-house is an unfit mother.
On 9/11 how many innocent victims were left to die by the firemen who rushed to their deaths in the World Trade Center inferno?
Mr. and Mrs. Nowratesh seem to be making a life out of feeding off of a certain type of American despair. Perhaps it is all part of the new Disney image that includes anti-American propaganda.

[laugle]

42. I totally DISAGREE,

I don't think we should give ABC the ratings.

I think the only people that should watch are Senators, Congress, radio talk hosts and other progressive media who will inform the public.


Or maybe assign a few DUers to watch and give a full review to the rest of us.

I don't plan to watch a bullshit piece of propaganda full of lies and distortions.

You can bet that the people who need to know will be watching.......especially the ones portrayed inacurately in this film!