Anybody live in any of these FL counties?

[Tiggeroshii]

Duval, Broward, Gilchrist, Lafayette, Palm Beach. Anybody who lives in any of these counties vote yestereday? Because the Florida Secretary of State is saying nobody did.

http://election.dos.state.fl.us/Elections/ResultsArchive/Enight.asp

[Selatius]

1. I'm guessing Broward and Palm Beach already have excuses

They haven't been able to count votes since 2000. What excuse does Duval, Gilchrist, and LaFayette have?

:sarcasm:

[DoYouEverWonder]

3. Broward and PB have counted their votes

It's the State of FL that is holding off posting the results on the State's website.

This is a bunch of bull.

[Tiggeroshii]

4. So we REALLY don't know who had more turnout?

It better not be like this in November.

[DoYouEverWonder]

7. That's why we have to call them out now

before they pull even more serious crap in Nov.

[onenote]

17. what difference does turnout make in primaries?

This is silly. THe repubs had a Senate race and a governor's race. The Democrats had only a Governor's race. Its no big surprise that more repubs came out.

BTW, there is nothing in the Florida elections website that indicates what the relative turnout of Democrats and repubs would be. However, if you wanted to figure that out, you could go to the individual county election websites. If you did, you'd see that in Broward, Democratic turnout (as a percentage of registered Democrats) was slightly higher than repub turnout, but turnout in the county (looking at the parties separately or in the aggregate) was below the statewide average.

I challenge you to show me a single instance where the media (or anyone else) has suggested any signficance in the relative turnout of the two parties in a primary election.

[DoYouEverWonder]

2. Really skews their numbers

doesn't it?

Makes it look like the REPS had a great turn out and the DEMS stayed home. Nice trick.

[ChiciB1]

8. Yes, I Noticed That Little Trick... AGAIN!!!

Is anyone EVER going to do anything about this stuff??? And I'll tell you what I'm very upset about... I want to leave this country but am UNABLE to! My 94 yr. old mother-in-law lives with us, has severe Alzheimer's and my husband was born in Tampa and is a "cracker!" His relatives live here and even though he's a Democrat he won't leave.

I on the other hand am ready, and I say this in all honesty... when his mother passes, I don't really know if I WILL stay... with or without him! I've had it. If anyone thinks the elections in Florida are fair and balanced they must be smoking some funny stuff!

I can hardly wait til November!! I'm waiting to see just how Cruella is going to "play her game" again! I've wondered for a very long time just WHY she's stayed in the race. Sure, she won yesterday, but she didn't have any real opponents... but polls say Nelson has her beat by huge numbers. Well, we'll see! If she comes close or even wins... there shouldn't be a person in the USA who should trust voting in America again!!! And I'm not a big Nelson supporter either! If Democrats keep letting these people get away with this stuff, I don't know what good I'm doing. Getting an ulcer and staying frustrated and depressed isn't MY idea of fun!

Sorry... I'm a bona fide CYNIC now!! But I did vote yesterday, I suppose I'm ashamed to say I didn't so I did it anyway! I don't know if my vote was counted, but it was a Democratic primary so maybe there was a better chance... but still not sure.

[onenote]

18. I'm going to keep after this to stop the misleading posts

I've asked before: how does the incomplete information skew the numbers to make it look like repubs had a great turnout and Dems stayed home. The turnout numbers don't break out by party. It includes Democrats, repubs, and "other" combined as one denominator and the total number of people voting in a county as the numerator. There is no statewide total being given since the numerator number is incomplete. When it is complete, the total number will probably be around 20 percent. It won't tell you a damn thing about what percentage of repubs or what percentage of Democrats turned out.

If you took the time and used some common sense, you could look at the individual races, which have always had the vote totals for every county and you'd see, for example, how many voted in the Democratic governor's primary and how many voted in the repub gov. primary. You still wouldn't know relative turnout. But you could figure that out if you sent to the county elections website, which breaks out the number of registered Democrats and the number of registered repubs and you'd see that in, for instance, Broward, a slightly larger percentage of registered Democrats voted than registered repubs, but that, however you measure it, turnout in Broward was below the statewide average.

This notion that there votes are being hiddent is a total red herring and you really should stop it. Crying wolf undermines legitimate objections when they get made in the future.

[Warpy]

5. All it takes is for a few Democrats in those counties who DID vote

to come forward, SCREAMING.

C'mon. You know Palm Beach County is heavily Democratic. Saying NO DEMOCRAT VOTED is the ticket to busting the voting fraud down there wide open. It just needs a few voters to come forward and do it.

[SteppingRazor]

6. They only post results once all votes in certain categories...

have been counted. Broward and Palm Beach have not completed counting absentee, early, presinct and/or provisional votes, so their totals are not up yet.

But you can see the voote counts on that same site, under election results for each campaign. Those totals are unofficial, however.

No need for any tinfoil.

[nosillies]

11. Agreed...no great conspiracy

While my county is not included, I would much rather see votes counted slowly and well, than see just any old results slapped up there to appease people. No harm in better safe than sorry.

[DoYouEverWonder]

14. This has nothing to do with counting votes

It has everything to do with deliberately posting misinformation.

The counties that are showing '0' have had their counts posted all day. There is no excuse for the state to publish such a skewed table. If all the precincts have not reported then that is reflected in the percentage column.

[onenote]

20. no one would believe that there were no votes cast in these counties

particularly since the same website clearly shows, in the individual races, exactly how many votes were cast from those counties, whether or not they've been included in the turnout chart. That chart, by the way, has been updated a few times since yesterday morning. For example, Broward, Gilchrist, and Duval counties all were "zeros" in the turnout chart (but not the individual elections charts) until the afternoon. Presumably, the turnout chart will be updated eventually for the two remaining counties (Palm Beach and Lafayette). And when that happens, the only additional information we will have is the utterly irrelevant fact that the total turnout in the state (not broken down by party) was around 20 percent (maybe a bit higher).

[onenote]

19. thank you

Its good to see someone with a lick of sense around here.

[riona]

9. Re Broward

from the Miami Herald
'The voting equipment was not closed properly,'' said elections office spokeswoman Mary Cooney. ``We're making sure that we get into those precincts where this happened and bring the machines back so that we can close the machines properly and get the votes off them.''

[ellenfl]

10. check out this site . . .

Palm Beach County

[El Fuego]

12. I live in Palm Beach Cnty and I VOTED!!!

There wasn't a crowd there though.

[jackster]

13. My mother always works the polls in Taylor County.....

(a small county in N Fla) and is a died in the wool democrat even though most of the county turned repub in the 80's. She says that she saw more than usual numbers of people switching their parties from repub to democrat (only a couple the other way around) and lots more voting democrat period.

However, the county provided one touch-screen machine in each precinct for anyone to try if they wanted. She said LOTS of people tried it even though she explained to many that there would be no indivdual record of their vote if they did - no paper trail - just a cumulative total at the end of the day that is printed out. She said most of the people just did not understand that they were just throwing their votes in a black box and wanted to try the machine anyway because it was new and different! They just could not grasp how it worked.

Scary.... but then it IS Florida, and it IS North Florida, and IT IS TAYLOR COUNTY.... probably the biggest redneck county in the whole state

They did have over a 38% turnout though which is quite good - at least people want to be involved in the process

[lpbk2713]

15. Limbaugh & Coultergeist live in Palm Beach County

(Although Coultergeist's voter registration seems to change on a regular basis :eyes: )



So maybe Diebold hasn't finished manipulating the tally yet.

[onenote]

16. Simply not true

If you go to the Florida elections website and click on any of the specific races, such as the Democratic primary for governor, you will find a county by county breakdown that shows the votes from every county, including those listed in the OP. They've been there all along. Only the "turnout" chart is incomplete. Currently, it has no totals for Lafayette and Palm Beach. But, as noted, if you look for Palm Beach and Lafayette in the individual races, you'll find the vote totals.

The turnout chart and the individual race charts are unrelated. This is a red herring and trying to turn it into anything will only undermine future efforts to point out real problems with vote counting.