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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 10:40 PM
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Did Musharraf stab Bush in the back?
September 6, 2006

Pakistan Lets Tribal Chiefs Keep Control Along Border

By ISMAIL KHAN and CARLOTTA GALL

PESHAWAR, Pakistan, Sept. 5 — The central government and tribal elders signed a peace agreement on Tuesday that will allow militants to operate freely in one of Pakistan’s most restive border areas in return for a pledge to halt attacks and infiltration into Afghanistan.

The deal is widely viewed as a face-saving retreat for the Pakistani Army, which has taken a heavy battering at the hands of the mountain tribesmen and militants, who are allied with the Taliban and Al Qaeda. But the government may have in effect ceded the militants a sanctuary in the area, called North Waziristan.

In one of the most obvious capitulations since it began its campaign to rout foreign fighters from the area, the government said foreigners would be allowed to stay if they respected the law and the peace agreement. Osama bin Laden and other leaders of Al Qaeda are believed to be among the foreigners who have taken refuge in the area.

The agreement, reached a day before a visit by President Pervez Musharraf to Afghanistan, will be presented by the government as proof of Pakistan’s effort to deal with militancy and terrorism. Relations with President Hamid Karzai of Afghanistan have been strained this year as the insurgency in southern and eastern Afghanistan has swelled.

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The deal was brokered by a grand tribal jirga, or assembly, set up by the governor of the North-West Frontier Province on July 20, after the militants declared a unilateral ceasefire. Turning to a jirga was an admission by the government that it could not win control of the region militarily.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/06/world/asia/06afghan.html?ref=world


Posted on Fri, Sep. 01, 2006

Truces fueling resurgence of Taliban, critics say

By Jonathan S. Landay
McClatchy Newspapers

KABUL, Afghanistan - The Pakistani military is striking truces with Islamic separatists along the country's border with Afghanistan, freeing Pakistani militants and al-Qaida fighters to join Taliban insurgents battling U.S.-led troops and government forces in Afghanistan.

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The fighting in Afghanistan is the bloodiest since U.S. forces drove the Taliban from power after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. Many of the movement's top leaders, along with Osama bin Laden and many of his followers, escaped to Pakistan and have never been caught.

The Pakistani regime of Gen. Pervez Musharraf has been negotiating truces - with the Bush administration's encouragement - with Islamic separatists in North Waziristan and South Waziristan, mountainous tribal areas along the Afghan border where U.S. officials think bin Laden may be hiding.

In return, Pakistani officials are promising to restrict the country's troops in the area to major bases and towns and to pour huge amounts of aid - much of it from the United States and other nations - into the destitute region, according to American officials.

But as the truces take hold, separatists have been crossing into Afghanistan to fight alongside Taliban and al-Qaida fighters, according to Western and Afghan officials.

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The separatists and the Taliban are Pashtuns, the ethnic group that dominates Afghanistan and Pakistan's tribal region. It's unclear whether the flow is an unintended consequence of the truces or is being ignored - or encouraged - by Musharraf's regime as part of the price for peace with the separatists.

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http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/news/columnists/jonathan_s_landay/15419933.htm?source=rss&channel=krwashington_jonathan_s_landay


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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 10:43 PM
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1. And so the "coalition of the willing" continues to unravel.
:shrug:
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 10:48 PM
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2. Pakistan just wants peace
They slapped W in the face on his Bush doctrine. Good for them.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 10:55 PM
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3. Pakistan just wants money
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fuzzyball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:22 PM
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7. You got that right !!! Pakistan just wants US $$$$$ and Musharraf will
say anything to keep the aid flowing in. In the
meanwhile 80% of Paklistani's are islamist militant
backers and Mush has to appease them else he is history.
Ther is no way Mush can afford to wipe out Osama and his
cohorts in West Pakistan.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:01 PM
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4. Not necessarily. I think he's more concerned with his own skin.
It's bad news for the Administration, but Musharraf has more immediate issues on his mind, I would think. Apparently Pakistan lost some hundreds of military on the border recently, read the writing on the wall as far as the tribal control of the border region goes and said whoa.
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agincourt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:07 PM
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5. The war on terror is a sham
It was a war on liberalism all along. Pakistan is just not keeping the lie up anymore and admitting what their opinions were all along: Osama is a cool dude. Bush had no intention of getting Osama.
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:28 PM
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9. We have a winner!
Pakistan hasn't done a damn thing to "Bring Bin Laden to Justice" since he fled there after Tora Bora.

Bush & Co need Bin Laden running around free in the Paki countryside like G.I. Joe needs Cobra to always be around. Think about it.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:12 PM
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6. What does Pakistan think it is--a soverign nation?
:evilgrin:
rocknation
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PresidentWar Donating Member (499 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:22 PM
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8. No. He saved his own ass.
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martymar64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 10:08 AM
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10. Musharraf walks along the finest of lines
He is stuck between US pressure to go after OBL and the population of Pakistan that largely supports the Islamists militants. The greatest risk is that if Musharraf falls, Pakistan's nuclear weapons could fall under Islamist control. That would be *'s worst nightmare come to life.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 10:14 AM
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11. not just B*sh's worst nightmare. . .
Edited on Wed Sep-06-06 10:15 AM by annabanana
A bunch of nuclear weapons in the hands of a radical fundamentalist regime isn't MY idea of a walk in the park either....

(This is the kind of thing Brewster-Jennings was trying to avoid)..

Way to go numbnuts giggling murderer..
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 10:51 AM
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12. Musharraf is an unpopular dictator masquerading as a president
He will fall, it's just a question of time.
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eccles12 Donating Member (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:12 AM
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13. Watch this closely. They are about to give up Osama. The deal is struck
Either Osama or someone who looks like and is purported to be Osama will be given up shortly. The Pakistanis will take credit, Bush and Republicans will claim great victory.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 03:10 PM
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16. That sounds about right...
it is getting close to the election and this may be a part of their october surprise.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 02:23 PM
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14. Pakistan vows to help....crush Taliban; US cool to Pakistan-Taliban deal
Edited on Wed Sep-06-06 02:25 PM by ProSense

Pakistan vows to help Kabul crush Taliban

By Sayed Salahuddin
20 minutes ago

KABUL (Reuters) - Pakistan, criticized by some Afghan leaders over cross-border infiltration by the Taliban, vowed on Wednesday to help its neighbor fight terrorism as Afghanistan battles its worst violence in five years.

After lengthy talks with his Afghan counterpart, Hamid Karzai, Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf said he was committed to crushing the Taliban, their al Qaeda allies and "Talibanisation," a reference to the spread of hardline Islam.

"The best way to fight this common enemy is to join hands, trust each other and form a common strategy," he told reporters in Kabul, days before the fifth anniversary of the September 11 attacks that prompted the U.S.-led invasion of Afghanistan.

The use of Pakistani territory by the Taliban, other militant groups and criminals has soured relations between the two countries. Rebels and criminals can freely cross the rugged mountainous frontier, barely controlled in parts.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060906/wl_nm/afghan_dc_5



US cool to Pakistan-Taliban border deal

Wed Sep 6, 11:56 AM ET

WASHINGTON (AFP) - The United States refused to endorse but did not criticize a peace deal between Pakistan and pro-Taliban Islamic militants in a restive tribal area bordering Afghanistan.

Pushed for a US response to the accord, which affects Pakistan's North Waziristan tribal belt, White House spokesman Tony Snow replied: "We've been apprised of it" and added that "it does not provide great concern."

Pakistan has assured the United States that "the cease-fire is, in fact, not going to diminish efforts to apprehend Osama bin Laden or bring him to justice," or open the border to Al-Qaeda terrorists, said Snow.

Afghanistan has expressed concerns about the arrangement, under which Islamabad agreed to reduce its military presence, while the militants agreed to disarm or expel foreign Al-Qaeda-linked fighters.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060906/pl_afp/uspakistanafghanistan_060906155626



Renamed: war on logic
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 02:43 PM
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15. nothing to see here...back to the inundation of celebrity infotainment
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 08:45 AM
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17. So, when do we attack Pakistan?
Now that they are officially harboring and protecting the terrorists responsible for 9/11.

Inquiring Minds Want to Know!
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ACK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:26 AM
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18. Yes
Any more questions?
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