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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 10:15 PM
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Casey lectured, incumbent stared... like a schoolboy enduring a scolding
Slate
http://www.slate.com/id/2148757

Santorum Can't Draw
A tie in the first debate doesn't help the endangerd senator.

By John Dickerson
Posted Sunday, Sept. 3, 2006, at 7:20 PM ET

Rick Santorum was the most vulnerable incumbent in the Senate going into his debate Sunday with Democrat Bob Casey. He still is. The exchange on Meet the Press was largely a wash, and that's not good for the Republican who is behind in the polls by as much as 18 points.

It's hard to imagine anything kinetic happening in a space also occupied by State Treasurer Bob Casey. If Santorum was occasionally excitable and edgy, Casey seemed like a negotiator coaxing someone in from the ledge. Both men tried to fix their image problems. The rap against Casey is that he's not a fighter, so he tried to look tough and spirited, turning theatrically to pose direct questions to his opponent. Santorum, who has the opposite problem, at times reacted passively. While Casey lectured, the incumbent stared off into the middle distance like a schoolboy enduring a scolding.

It's not that Santorum isn't trying to make things exciting. The foreign policy views he articulated are very exciting. With two ongoing wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, he's itching for a confrontation with Iran. It's the central front in the war on terror, he argues, responsible for attacks against Israel and the sectarian violence in Iraq. He's more hawkish than the Bush administration, which he accused of being too soft on the regime. When moderator Tim Russert asked questions about Iraq, Santorum talked about its neighbor. "I don't know if it's a question of more troops or less troops," he said about the violence in Iraq. "I think the focus should not be Iraq; it should be Iran."

It was hard to tell whether Santorum was merely being excitable about Iran or using it to avoid talking about Iraq. He certainly has gotten ahead of himself on other issues in the past. It was Santorum who introduced the idea of man-and-dog love into a discussion about same-sex marriages. He called a news conference to declare that weapons of mass destruction had been found in Iraq, only to have Pentagon officials slap down the claim. Talking about Iran and Islamic fascism helps him shift the debate. He can deflect Casey's criticisms about Iraq by saying his opponent doesn't understand the true nature of the global threat. "You believe we're going to win this battle on the battle fields of Afghanistan and Iraq," he said to Casey. "I don't. I think we'll win or lose this war right here in America." Santorum's point seemed to be that the war against terrorism will be lost if Americans lose their will.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 10:16 PM
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1. I agree. It was a tie. Which means that Ricky is floundering....
as we speak. Casey needs to polish up for the state level debates.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 10:22 PM
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4. Floundering Ricky


You hear that espera17? You're boy is floundering and your dog is bored.

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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 10:18 PM
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2. i don't think it was a wash - Santorum lost.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 10:21 PM
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3. I agree...
but even a wash won't help pRicky.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 08:54 AM
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10. very true. his sliminess oozes out of the screen.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 01:50 PM
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11. Yeah, makes you want to take a shower LOL
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 10:33 PM
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5. I watched that debate, and I think Santorum LOST!
His selfrightous arrogance showed through like an airplane's landing lights! That article says is got a little excitedonce. NO! He got a lot excited several times!
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 10:36 PM
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6. The whiff of desperation from Santorum is strong. I have a hunch
Pennsylvanians are going to replace their U.S. Senator in November.

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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 10:43 PM
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7. Yes we are...
but you know the thugs are going to pull out every trick in the book to try to save their little pRicky!!
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 10:50 PM
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8. Hi, dajoki. Yep. You're right on that. But you're even righter on
Edited on Mon Sep-04-06 10:50 PM by Old Crusoe
the impulse to dump the little monster.

If you folks can unseat the 3rd-ranking Republican in the U.S. Senate, you WILL be a major headline in the media on November 8th, and a lot of us are going to be on our feet applauding you.

We're with ya!
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 11:13 PM
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9. Thank you for the support...
Edited on Mon Sep-04-06 11:14 PM by dajoki
This will be one of the sweetest victories, if not THE sweetest in my life!! WE MUST WATCH THOSE DIEBOLDS AND COUNTERS THOUGH!!
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