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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 03:57 PM
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(X-post) American Progressives Need to Listen to Orbison, Not Policy Wonks
Edited on Sat Sep-02-06 04:20 PM by Wiley50
(X-Posted because it needs to be here not in GD)

"Empathy is scarce stuff in America in these times of "culture war." And all these folks, Pauline, Wilf, and even Denney to a certain extent, despite the political stereotyping his sexuality invites, are supposedly the "other side," in the culture war. Which is actually a class war by another name. We call it a culture war because educated influencers write books for similarly educated people who have been indoctrinated to interpret reality in such terms. Not a person here has ever heard of the culture wars. No one here cares about politics because politics is no longer cares about them, or the increasing struggle of hard working people. This makes them the traditional natural base for the Democratic Party, though the party refuses to claim them, and seems to have forgotten (or simply refuses to acknowledge) that the pyramid of American society is far broader toward the bottom than the top. In any case, they have become numb to America."

"Still, in this place you can feel America's people. Just like Roy felt them. It's not an inspiring America. It's not even a passable America. But it's an America where, contrary to the national lie, people do manage to accept one another. Poorly educated, beaten-down working folks, essentially Christian people, accept the queer, the biker, the Mexican and the Iranian swish, laughing and joking and singing until that last sad hour when their ten or twenty bucks is spent. Then they go back to lives that cannot ever achieve what middle class people would call modest success. But they know as truth what I can only allege in brittle, lifeless text. They know that all of us are in this together. They understand because in life they are exposed to the truth about what our country has become, and perhaps always was. There is no escape for them into insulated suburbs or high rise apartments or condos. They must live it every day of their lives to survive at all. Consequently, in this redneck beer joint is human respect and open laughter, drunken crying, friendship between people whom we are told are bigots, and whom we are told do not associate and do not like one another,. We are told this by people in whose best interests it is to see the working class divided. Still, it would be beyond naïve to say the mutual acceptance of these people offers hope for social unity among Americans. Not in a country where every living citizen has breathed in the air of Darwinian capitalism from birth. It merely offers small respite from animal struggle.

"Roy's People"

http://www.counterpunch.org/bageant09022006.html

Joe Bageant's mission in life is explaining
America's Hardest Working People
The beer joint and trailer park crowd
to educated uptown liberal elites

Because until we REALLY UNDERSTAND them
we can't win them over
And we HAVE TO WIN them over
If we want to WIN ELECTIONS

The Working Poor Do Not Vote

or they vote against their own best interests
(like a battered spouse syndrome)

If we could give them a real reason to vote for us

WE'D WIN EVERY ELECTION

There are a WHOLE LOT of potential voters that the party
has turned off.

We need them back
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 04:20 PM
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1. If you want more of Joe Bageant, check out his site. . .
www.joebageant.com

He's supposed to have a book out in spring 2007.

:kick:
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 04:52 PM
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2. Here's some more on the subject
"Like all great fiction, it provides moments of comic relief, typically through irony. Thus, we watch the development of liberal political "strategy." One has to laugh. Laugh first at the notion that the Hamptons Country Club leadership now designing "national strategy" could ever make working people getting poorer by the day ever believe in them for Christ sake. The people sitting around the Shenandoah this morning will never believe that a gaggle of cagey, sophisticated multi-millionaire party leaders being limoed from the Ritz Carlton to their appearance on Jon Stewart are somehow going to look out for the blood smeared guys and gals down at the chicken plant. Or the blood smeared guys in Iraq for that matter. It's too late for that. They cannot raise the already dead. They are complicit in the same power poker game as the Republicans and they will remain that way, as my neighbor puts it: "Until the dumb motherfucking voters can see beyond the price of a gallon of gas." Or the office basketball pool or the next staged election year non-issue. The real issues are always moral, usually involving purposeful neglect of some portion of society, which is supposed to be the Democratic arena.

Yet every honest candidate who dares mention such issues is deemed "too far left to be workable." Then they are squashed like Ralph Nader or Dennis Kucinich, or the notion of kicking the insurance companies entirely out of our health care system and declaring universal health care as a citizen right like most civilized nations have done. And then, after having killed everyone around them but members of their country club, the national leadership comes back to us talking about "renewal." And offers brilliant us ideas such as pulling out of Iraq three years and thousands of corpses too late.

Even being aware of the process is not much help. What we can do personally that would make the slightest difference? So we continue to let a political managerial expert class advise and run the only game in town, and contribute time and money to the very people who engineered liberal failure for the past 30 years. Academic "framers," wonks and just plain bullshit artists hawking out-of touch candidates-though there small signs of hope as we enjoy watching Joe the ho' Lieberman finally strangle in his own stench. Nowhere was it more savored than amid the drooling political junkies of the blogosphere, that cyber-fiction of freedom where unhappy minions of the Empire rant about "strategies" instead of taking to the streets where the voters and potential voters are, particularly those very voters who damned well need what the Democrats once offered. Time was, when Democrats used to put money in the budget for older Americans and others for social programs-at least enough for some goddamned bingo games and an occasional dance for the widowed and the lonely. Maybe we need to kidnap the leadership and force them to listen to Roy's songs for twenty-four hours straight. "
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 04:57 PM
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3. Delete: Double Post n/t
Edited on Sat Sep-02-06 05:02 PM by Wiley50
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 06:01 PM
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4. This is THE MOST IMPORTANT issue for the Democratic Party to deal with,
So, of course let's all just squeeze our eyes shut, stick our fingers in our ears, and sing "La la la la la" really loud, so we can continue to pretend that eventually, somehow, some way, people will become desperate enough for it to work.

It is absolutely maddening that, even here, we just can't break through the distraction du jour, long enough to get this out front. My head is so sore... :banghead:
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 06:16 PM
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5. I love you, Greyhound!
Do you have room in your life for a 50ish brokeback ex-carpetlayer on SSI
with a 28 ft sailboat and yearnings to sail to Belize?

I'm also privileged enough to be a buddy of Joe Bageant
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 02:11 AM
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6. LOL you bet! I have to have special life-vests made for the hounds
first, but we're ready. :rofl:
:kick:
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 11:17 AM
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7. Fuck! Grover Norquist Gets It!
See?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2808723

So, why do I have to keep kicking my own thread?

WAKE UP DEAR PARTY!
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 11:22 AM
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8. Double Post Delete
Edited on Sun Sep-03-06 11:24 AM by Wiley50
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 12:38 AM
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9. Once more with feeling...
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