Any polls out there for Lieberman vs Lamont?

[flamin lib]

Just curious about how that race is shaping up.

[LA lady]

1. The latest one I saw was Zogby

I doubt you want to hear it.

[Nite Owl]

3. I was under the illusion

that the race had tightened up? I'm not sure I want you to break my bubble before a three day weekend but I'll brace myself. What were the numbers.....

[LA lady]

6. OK, you asked for it

Zogby found U.S. Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman, a New Haven Democrat running without his party's endorsement, leads Democratic nominee Ned Lamont of Greenwich 49.4 percent to 39.4 percent, with 2.1 percent going to the Republican nominee, former Derby Mayor Alan Schlesinger. Lieberman held a 12-point edge over Lamont in an Aug. 17 Quinnipiac poll.

[Nite Owl]

7. Not good

but still doable for Ned.

[CTLawGuy]

20. that poll inlcuded an internet interactive component

and it also showed the Dem gubernatoral candidate cutting Gov. Rell's 30 point lead in half (which I doubt is true) so I dunno how acurate it is. I'll wait for corroboration.

It also showed Jack Carter in NV, who has always been more than 15 pts behind Ensign, to be suddenly within 5 points, which I also doubt.

[saltpoint]

2. Haven't seen any this-week polls in that race, but my ardent hope is

that Joe's internal polling shows him no better than tied, and maybe a little behind, Ned, and that while many Americans are distracted by backyard barbeques this weekend, Joe will drop out.

I'm not declaring that this will happen, and I know Joe is stubborn and willful and egocentric, but this would be a good time for him to slip out the back door if his numbers look iffy for Nov. 7.

[MADem]

8. Joe will drop out....NEVER. He just....CAN'T!!!!!!

That seat in the Senate is not the property of the people of CT, you see, it's HIS...all HIS!!!!

And screw those horrible Democrats who are trying to keep it from him!

He's running as the GOP candidate, in essence.

[saltpoint]

9. Hi, MADem. Yep. I'm worried that Joe may stick it out, but I KNOW

he reads DU and I wanted to post the option of his quitting this weekend.

OK, I'll admit I'm a bit biased in the matter.

!

[last1standing]

10. Holy Joe isn't stupid.

He can see how the neo-cons tread "moderate" repubs like Arlen Spectre and draw a reasonable conclusion that caucusing with the repubs is a bad idea. Sure they might give him a chairmanship but he'll have to bow and scrape to the rabid right to keep it and that isn't Joe's style at all.

No, Old Joe will continue to caucus with the Dems, only now with the understanding that if they don't see things his way he's likely to slip over to the other side. In other words pure extortion. This is why it's so important to get him out of the senate. His power mad ego will cause him to be even less circumspect should he succeed.

[TechBear_Seattle]

4. The polls don't matter; Lieberman will win. Why?

Because the Ruling Party wants him elected, and they control the election process. Even if the election goes to Lamont, there is now a judicial precedent where the Senate can seat Lieberman anyway and lock out Lamont.

[saltpoint]

5. What mechanism is it that can un-do CT voters' ballot decision?

On what grounds could the Senate seat Lieberman if Lamont wins in November?

[TechBear_Seattle]

12. The precedent set in California just a few weeks ago

A judge in California recently ruled that once the US House of Representatives seats someone, all election appeals and recounts and investigations into irregulariies and fraud cease forthwith. I don't recall the names, but it involved the Representative to Congress from California's district... 50? Somewhere around San Diego.

The basis for the ruling is this bit from the US Constitution: Each House shall be the judge of the elections, returns and qualifications of its own members (Article II, Section 5)

The implication is clear: If there is any question as to whether Lamont or Lieberman won the election, all the Senate has to do is seat Lieberman and the election becomes irrelevant. According to this interpretation of the Constitution, the Senate and the Senate alone has the power to determine if a Senatorial election is valid and who ultimately is the winner. The door has been opened for the House and Senate to become self-appointed oligarchies.

[clark08]

13. Lamout will close the gap

but I'm afraid will lose by 5 points

[ProSense]

14. Welcome! Why will Lamont lose? n/t

[clark08]

16. Hope I'm wrong but I think he will lose b/c the GOP

will put lots of dollars in their and LB still has lots of support statewide. Look for LB to switch to repuke after the election

[GreenTea]

19. The polls are shit. Lamont will absoulely win!

[bigwillq]

15. Hi!

Welcome to DU! :hi:

[saltpoint]

17. Busby's race in the CA-50th? That must be the one you mean.

I am unsure that either Chamber can reverse a final tally by voters, especially after the vote is certified.

Is that not so?

The closest Senate race I know of was John Durkin some years back now, in New Hampshire. I believe the final tally gave him a 2-vote victory. There were legal recounts of course, and I do not know that final tally.

[TechBear_Seattle]

18. That's the one, thanks

A few days ago, when the ruling was handed down, a lot of people here were bemoaning the door it had opened. I'll look the matter up and see whether the complaints have merit.

[otohara]

11. So Do CT Dems Who Still Support Lieberbush

not care that he will most likely caucus with GOP and Dems will not control senate perhaps? I would care more about that, than the man.

[lonehalf]

21. The polls in Georgia:

What is your opinion of:

Lieberman: For 76% Against 20%
Lamont: Who? 55% for 10% Against 32%

[Sparkly]

22. They're not running in Georgia. nt

[SPCAworks]

23. And

maybe Nathan Bedford Forrest was a popular write-in?? Georgia, lol.