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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 11:52 AM
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* using fear again as midterms approach:“in the streets of our own cities”
NYT
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/01/washington/01bush.html?ex=1157774400&en=afed344cfc9c8105&ei=5009&partner=MSN_NYTHOME

In Latest Push, Bush Cites Risk in Quitting Iraq

By ANNE E. KORNBLUT and SHERYL GAY STOLBERG
Published: September 1, 2006

SALT LAKE CITY, Aug. 31 — President Bush said Thursday that withdrawing now from Iraq would leave Americans at risk of terrorist attacks “in the streets of our own cities,” and he cast the struggle against Islamic extremists as the costly but necessary successor to the battles of the last century against Nazism and Communism.

“The war we fight today is more than a military conflict,’’ Mr. Bush said in a speech to veterans at an American Legion convention here. “It is the decisive ideological struggle of the 21st century.’’

The speech, the first of five addresses on national security Mr. Bush plans to deliver between now and Sept. 19, was part of an orchestrated White House offensive to buttress public support for the Iraq war and portray Democrats as less capable of protecting the country, a theme that has proved effective for Republicans in the past two elections.

Even as Mr. Bush spoke, a series of explosions ripped through Baghdad, providing more images of a sort that he acknowledged have been “sometimes unsettling” to the public.

The latest White House offensive — the third major public relations effort in the past year to offset a decline in public support for the Iraq war and place it in the context of a broader cause — began unfolding this week, with combative speeches to veterans groups by Vice President Dick Cheney and Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld. Both invoked variations of the word “appease’’ to characterize critics of the president’s policies, with Mr. Rumsfeld saying they had not “learned history’s lessons.’’
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 11:55 AM
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1. Mr. Rumsfeld made up history
Appease he was calling us who bled for this Country and disagree with Bush and him terrorist
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 11:58 AM
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2. We already have terror in "the streets of our own cities" you dumb fuck!
Take a look at New Orleans circa September 1, 2005. If that isn't terror in the streets, I don't know what would be. Dead bodies floating all over the place, being eaten by rats. Children separated from their parents. Pets abandoned and left to die alone - a slow, agonizing, frightening, death.

People returning to destroyed homes to find the remains of loved ones weeks after they had died.

And the terror extends into our homes as well: our government is spying on us, listening to our phone calls, reading our E-mails, monitoring our bank accounts, collecting data on us, they know where we go, what we do, who we see, everything.

It's beginning to sound like Nazi Germany and/or life in a Communist country.

So we don't need to fear terror in the streets of our own cities, Mr. Bush, WE ALREADY HAVE IT!
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:01 PM
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3. I say bring it on, Mr. Bush
I'm tired of watching our military reduced inch by inch in Afghanistan and Iraq, to the point where we're getting sand kicked in our face by North Korea, Iran, Syria and every other two-bit tyrant on the planet who can see that we're so tied down that we can't respond to their provocations. Bring the troops home, and we'll see who's stupid enough to try to invade the United States.

That's what you're saying we should be wetting our pants over, isn't it? That someone's going to invade the country if we don't keep our military tied down in Afghanistan and Iraq? I'm willing to take that chance, pal, and I'd bet that if we had a nationwide game of choose up, more Americans would side with me than with you.

How about it, Mr. Bush? How sure are you of your rhetoric? Or are you just spouting a lot of nonsense because you don't have anything else?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:06 PM
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4. They're banking on mindless, kneejerking support.
Anyone who does even a second's worth of thinking will realize that people who disagree with him and his merry band of evil traitors don't prefer appeasement to their brand of incompetent foreign policy... they prefer competent policy. They prefer leadership that listens to experts, not dismisses them. They prefer a foreign policy based in reality, not pie-in-the-sky "let's spread democracy with the barrel of a gun" fantasies / delusions.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:08 PM
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5. Yeah, that is exactly when I turned the TV off. It really hurts that
you can no longer believe ANYTHING that our leaders and most of the media says. It gives one an empty feeling of fear that nothing else can top. So when they spout their drivel they are giving us something to fear alright - them.
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filer Donating Member (444 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:16 PM
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6. We're fighting over there so we won't have to fight 'em here.
Just think, if we leave Iraq before we "complete the job", we'll wake to find the terrorists attacking Kansas. It's Baghdad or Topeka. The thought of it frightens me so much I just wet myself.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:49 PM
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8. You know what scares me?
the morons who fall for their bullshit and vote for them!!
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:44 PM
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7. Hey, George: Neah neah-neah neah neah. . .
What a squirrel.

:evilfrown:
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 01:01 PM
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9. '...the third major public relations effort in the past year...'
the THIRD! - what's that definition of insanity again?
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 10:15 AM
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12. something like...
doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 01:34 PM
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10. it's not working
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 01:53 PM
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11. He can't have it both ways when he says...
"If we leave Iraq the terrorists will follow us here" AND "If we leave Iraq the terrorists will take over the country."
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 11:18 AM
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13. Terrorists are here and...
he brought them to Iraq.
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