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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 11:15 PM
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Winning the war
What will 'winning the war' in Iraq look like? No one's really defined that yet.

This is the final image from another war we were told we won.

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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 11:27 PM
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1. Winning the Invasion and Occupation you mean?
How can you win that? Searching for democracy in a culture we clearly do not understand, imposing our so called values on a people who consider most of us depraved and disrespectful just will never work.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 11:34 PM
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2. Has congress declared a war?
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 01:00 AM
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5. Ya didn't get the memo? - The DECIDER don't need congress
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In a sick way, the Nazis advanced medical technology a long way -

Did they know anything about DNA way back then?

Makes one wonder

could GW be a half-ass clone of Adolf?

Adolf died April 30 1945

GW was "born" 14 months later - July 6 1946

And GeeDub's granpappy(Prescott) was still financing the Nazis

Things that make me go

hmmmmmmmm

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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 11:39 PM
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3. It means creating a safe haven for corporate profiteers to
amass great wealth off a newly formed "right to work" nation of subjugated wage slaves.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:08 AM
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4. Winning the war will mean continued killing and destruction.
It is the only way we can win or whatever term is in vogue this week.

It will require bringing back the draft. I remember the draft. Very well I remember it. We used to go with each other to see our boyfriends off to Vietnam. It was too hard to go alone. Even the ones who could get college deferments were made to feel unpatriotic if they did use them.

It was a bad time. I remember sitting in the church here for one funeral after another. One of the local judges and his wife had a son late in life, and I sat near them at the funeral. He was their only son, and it was a useless war he died in. It nearly destroyed them.

Killing, destruction, and the draft. That is what it will take to "win" or whatever the latest term is.

We are not going to give them western style democracy, ever. They are not going to let us do that in the middle east. It will always have to be at the point of a gun.

"I've seen this before in my life. This is the same situation we had in Vietnam. Everybody then kept saying, 'just another year, just stay the course, we'll have a victory.' Well, we didn't have a victory, and this policy cost the lives of an additional 25,000 troops because we were too stubborn to recognize what was happening." Howard Dean, San Antonio, December 2005


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