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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 04:35 PM
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Lunch room consensus: Bush dictator
The idle chat at lunch turned to politics and I sat there stunned as a table with eight or so middle aged white men concurred that the Bush regime has shredded the constitution and is functioning as a dictatorship.

Where have we got to that this is the state of affairs?

As I mentioned to a friend as we left "well that was interesting, now what do we do"?

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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 04:37 PM
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1. OBEY!!!
Obey Ye, Else Ye Will Be Shot!
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Vox_Reason Donating Member (589 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 04:38 PM
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2. You make sure they're all registered and will vote
It's all about turnout.

Idle talk is just that. Make sure these people are at the polls in November.

Talk turned into votes is real political results. It's up to you, and all of us.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 04:45 PM
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4. Well sure, of course, but that is not all there is to this.
First, I think the lunch table consensus is correct. This is an authoritarian regime and no longer a republic. Yes of course we should, and will all vote, and perhaps we might even toss some of the bums out. But as we are all aware by now, it isn't going to be that simple, for a lot of reasons.

1) election fraud;
2) corruption at the top of both parties;
3) media control;
4) they've crossed the rubicon.

The first three are self explanatory (at least here on DU.) The fourth is my belief that the crimes committed by this regime are in fact so appalling and extensive that they simply cannot allow a legitimate investigation into what has happened here since 1998 or so. Their asses are on the line and they are not about to take a perp walk without a fight.

The good news is that I think the bullshit barrage is wearing off and people are starting to wake up. The good news is that we will vote and the voters are going to vote the bums out. The bad news is that this may not work.

If the consensus at the lunch table is correct we are in for some very interesting times.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 04:38 PM
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3. Vote in November
for democrats...
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 05:35 PM
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5. i stick Post Its up w/ this message
everywhere i go....restroom stalls, fitting rooms. mall benches.

grocery carts.
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sknabt Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 05:47 PM
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6. Actually, George is a king according to Trudeau


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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 06:16 PM
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7. You might gently approach the next step by saying - just as gently -
"... you okay with that?" You might even add - "... well, I'm NOT!!!"

At that point it might be possible to steer the conversation a little more - toward what one can actually do about it, and the lack of accountability and what that says about us as a former democracy and what signals it sends to our kids and those all over the rest of the world (who have to live with our actions and their consequences).

If it were me, foaming-at-mouth upstart insufferable bloviating schmuckette that I am, I'd steer the conversation toward IMPEACHMENT and the reasons why it's NOT an impossible dream but an urgent matter we as freedom-loving, democracy-cherishing Americans are honor-bound to pursue in the name of our tragically compromised Constitution. And to those who'd balk, I'd end it with "...either you're FOR accountability or you're AGAINST it. THEY, george bush included, WORK FOR US. It's NOT the other way around."

Once we have them actually thinking as we do - that this is a colossal mess he's made of everything he touches and he's turned our wonderful country into a frickin' dictatorship - then it IS INDEED time to ask the question you asked: "now what do we do?" That's why it's critical to secure a Democratic recapture of the House of Reps, which will put John Conyers in the driver's seat at the Judiciary Committee - that holds IMPEACHMENT hearings.

Shit, I'm sorry to get preachy. That's probably why half this board has me on ignore...

Oh well. Trying to be less insufferable...

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