blackwell is getting C-R-U-S-H-E-D ...

[welshTerrier2]

it's going to take a whole lot more than election fraud to save his lying, cheating ass ...

here's the latest poll info:

source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/rasmussen/20060827/pl_rasmussen/ohiogovernor20060827

During the past several months, Democratic Congressman Ted Strickland's edge over Republican Secretary of State Ken Blackwell has ranged from four to seventeen percentage points. Now, in our latest election poll of Ohio's gubernatorial race, Congressman Strickland leads his opponent by an intimidating 57% to 32%. <skip>

Blackwell is viewed unfavorably by 55%. More ominously, 35% view him "very" unfavorably, a four-point increase since last month.

Especially after President Bush narrowly captured the state's electoral votes in 2004, strategists in both major parties see Ohio as a swing state, and expect that having a Governor of the same party as their presidential nominee can only help.

[benddem]

1. doesn't matter

blackwell owns the voting equipment, personnel and rules. I really wouldn't be surprised if he didn't do everything he could to win this. Good Christian that he is.

[LiberalArkie]

4. It does matter.. If a person is loosing by too large of a margin,

he can't steal the election. If he did, then the serfs would start to question all the election. You can steal an election only when it is realitively close.

[NewJeffCT]

6. However

if he starts tearing his opponent down through swift-boating, it could make it closer and then he claims "momemtum" as to why he was down 6-7 points in the polls on election eve, only to win by just enough to not force a recount.

[aquart]

10. Well, he hasn't been able to do it so far.

[buff2]

26. He's going to all the fundie churches

and getting the good republican "Christians" fired up. Blackwell will have all the millions of the Christian "right" (who is WRONG) vote for him because "Jesus told them to". :puke:

He will steal it if he can pull it off. That bastard will stop at nothing to "win".

[NEOBuckeye]

53. That won't be enough this time

Strickland is a former Methodist Minister and apparently a very straight-up, honest fellow, even as far as politicians go. Those facts tied together haven't been lost on the "concerned moralistic" faction of Ohioans, this time around. Strickland and Blackwell in a sense are catering to the same group of people, so Blackwell's often-professed Christianity does not grant him any advantages over Strickland.

Essentially, Ohioans know that both men are Christians, or at least claim to be. Since we have determined as much, the question becomes more of "what will you do to turn Ohio around?"

[sandnsea]

16. spelling patrol

I'm sorry, that one is a pet peeve. Lose, lost, loser, losing. Something is gone. Loose, looser, something isn't tight. Notice the s sound in loose, noose, caboose as opposed to the more z like sound in lose. Lose breaks all the spelling rules, but that is still how it's spelled.

True story - someone I know has a "Born Looser" tatoo. Yeah, that really is a Born Loser when you misspell that particular phrase in a tattoo and yes he's a freeper.

I don't spell everything right either, I know. :)

[tinfoilinfor2005]

19. Forinstance, the word tattoo?

:)

Tattoo
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
For other uses, see Tattoo (disambiguation).

A tattoo is a mark made by inserting pigment into the skin.

[sandnsea]

23. Except

Since I spelled it right the second time, the first was obviously a typo. But thanks for playing just the same.

[tinfoilinfor2005]

33. I know. I was just funnin' you.

:silly:

[sandnsea]

36. Here's what's really fun

I actually double-checked the spelling of tattoo and misspelled to make sure I didn't make mistakes while correcting somebody else's spelling. :rofl:

[happydreams]

24. That's the rub: "You can only steal an election if it is close"

I've been wondering about that. If its true then there is hope for voting the bastards out.

[LiberalUprising]

28. If you say so

n/t

[louis-t]

32. or "LOSING"

Sorry, "loosing" just bothers me.

[alfredo]

35. in 2004 he was given unsupervised access to the

main tabulator. There is no way of knowing what he did in there, and I doubt he would tell us the truth if asked.

[tblue37]

50. Ohio simply flipped the votes on three referenda in the last election.

The ones the RW official favored but that were down 2:1 in the polls ended up getting a 2:1 "yes" vote. The ones the public favored 2:1 but the officials did not ended up getting a 2:1 "no" vote.

If Blackwell loses by a 2:1 margin, they will simply flip the votes, and he will win by a 2:1 margin. That's how they do it.

[garybeck]

52. nope.

all he has to do is change the momentum. a one point swing in his direction the day before election day is enough of an excuse. we've seen it before.

[Stevepol]

61. Come on! The 05 referendum was flipped 40 points and nobody said a word.

The Columbus paper said the result was the equivalent to the Challenger disaster, but still could not bring themselves to say it might be the machines flipping the referendums related to voting and aimed at making votes fairer.

[Richard Steele]

62. They've already "passed" some Ballot Initiatives that polled 2:1 AGAINST.

That "they can only steal the close ones" doesn't work anymore;
they are brazen, shameless, and have no reason to fear any
repercussions. They steal whatever they want to steal;
'close' is no longer a consideration.

[bluestateguy]

11. The race is not stealable, at this time

It has be within the margin or error, or close to the margin of error to be stealable.

Plus, Diebold has to let Democrats win a few every now and then, or else people will get suspicious.

[tbyg52]

38. Depends on how you define "stealable"

If that means they probably won't succeed, I sure hope that's true. If it means they won't try, I doubt that. They *will* try.

[Ken Burch]

51. Well, if Cleveland gets put under martial law on Election Eve

You'll know you've got trouble.

[Ian_rd]

59. The further behind they are when they steal it, the more people will know

Stealing elections by only a couple % points is plausible, but the more percentage they steal, the more it becomes plain to the public what they're doing. I dare the asshole to steal it.

[Hosnon]

60. The effectiveness of cheating, etc. decreases as the margin increases. A

point is reached, 25% probably being beyond it, where a loss would result in enough suspicion to seriously investigate.

[goclark]

2. They will do ANYTHING to stay in POWER

And I do mean anything! :puke:

[Benhurst]

5. I agree. Besides, the corporate media will be able to explain it

all to us.

[TheDebbieDee]

7. Exactly! They will do anything.....

to stay in power rather than face the endless inquiries that will follow if the Democrats get a majority in Ohio and start to ask questions about the '04 Presidential Election, the Workmens Comp scandal, etc.

[aquart]

13. Don't be so sure they want to support this.

Bush is becoming an alarmingly expensive liability. The housing bubble has collapsed and buying power is going down the tubes. Which means unhappy advertisers.

So many factors to weigh. So hard for a good fascist lackey to choose.

[goclark]

21. Guess the Corporate Owned Media(Con News) didn't get the message

Cause they are still pushing the RepubliCONS lies night and day.

The silent vote is all about keeping the White Power people in charge ~ just my opinion.

At the end of the day, it's all about GREED for the "Founding Fathers" who just happen to look like Bush.

Note: I am African American and there may be those that say, " Blackwell is Black so they are trying to be inclusive."

To that I say.... :puke:

Blackwell is Whitewell ~ nothing but a tool for the NeoCon agenda.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

12. Short of merit, of course.

[acmejack]

3. Good.

[Wapsie B]

8. As long as Diebold and ES &S et al control the voting machines

anything is possible. The Democratic Party needs to be at the forefront of a movement to make these companies nothing more than suppliers of voting hardware. And yet it is too late with regards to having Blackwell in office in "04.

[samsingh]

9. winning the governership in Ohio is key to winning back the whitehouse

[LaPera]

37. Not so--Keeping the Sec. of States office in Republican hands is the key!

Secretary of States count the votes and choose the machines and dispatch how many machines and where, they can change the vote in a heartbeat...

Where ever there is Republican Secretary of State, anywhere across the country there will be fraud, of course favoring the republican this November...Florida, Ohio, California, Alaska, Georgia, Texas, etc. etc. etc...

They are NOT going just give up their majority without stealing it first...who can stop them? If caught nothing ever happens they know that, too late they are already in office and the republican corporate media goes to work...screaming that the Dem's are sore losers, there's no proof what-so-ever, (distortion for the mainstream)and that the Dem's are full of sour grapes...

Even though there will be tons of proof...it'll be ignored until it's too late and then we'll get a shitload of books about all the obvious fraud and stealing of votes--- and guest talking about it on every liberal talk show around the country!!

But then it'll be too late...and the Dem's will be scratching their heads saying maybe we should done this or this or support the war or...Dem leadership never considering even for a moment, it might be the republican owned electronic voting machines.

[samsingh]

42. doesn't the Governor have control over the Secretary?

[LaPera]

44. No! The Secretary of State is an elected individual office, with it's own

guidelines and set responsibilities...the Governor has no say over the Secretary of State's office's agenda or their priorities....the governor can of course make suggestions, but can not dictate Secretary of States policy, The Gov can only brings his gripes about the Secretary of States policies to the people through the proposition and initiative process.

And in most states where there is a republican Secretary of State, getting ready to steal votes for the republicans in November...There is more often than not a republican governor ready & willing to look the other way.

[catzies]

54. That is exactly the concern here in CA: Schwarzenegger/McPherson

We really need Debra Bowen to be our next Secretary of State. Democracy may hang in the balance.

[samsingh]

57. that's scary too then

[ebdarcy]

14. I saw my first Blackwell for Gov bumpersticker today.

The other side of the car had one of those stupid W stickers. Last week, at the store, I saw a woman with a Blackwell t-shirt on. Ick. But, what was worse, she had her 7/8 year old daughter with her, and she was dressed in an identical t-shirt. That was really upsetting. Blackwell is no friend of women(or anyone else for that matter). For that woman to promote a man who is against all abortion, even in life threatening cases, is beyond disgusting. It just sickened me to see that woman support someone who would happily let her daughter die if it meant preventing abortion. I felt really sorry for that little girl. How horrible it must be to grow up thinking that you are a second-class citizen who can't be trusted to make your own decisions.

However, I just can't imagine Blackwell winning Ohio. I don't see it happening.

[pro_blue_guy]

55. You know........

I have not seen one Blackwell bumper sticker or yard sign. On the other hand, I have probably seen about a dozen or so Strickland bumper stickers! And what is even more encouraging is that I live in an area that is mostly pretty moderate..........so the moderates may be leaning toward Ted!

:)

[Imagevision]

15. Blackwell reports embarrassing buy of Diebold stock Conflict of Interest?

Ohio is reeling with a mixture of outrage and hilarity as Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell has revealed that he has owned stock in the Diebold voting machine company, to which Blackwell tried to award unbid contracts worth millions while allowing its operators to steal Ohio elections.

A top Republican election official also says a Diebold operative told him he made a $50,000 donation to Blackwell's "political interests."

Blackwell will have no problem having Diebold exec's "service" the voting machines, he did it for Bush, he can certainly do it for himself under the guise of; "The polls were all wrong"... (don't doubt it for a second)
http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/1144140003213060.xml&coll=2

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0406-27.htm

[blondeatlast]

17. That post deserves its own thread.

In fact, it belongs on the Greatest page.

"Outrage and hilarity..."

I so believe it!

[Fovea]

18. First we vote them out

Next we confiscate their ill gotten gains.
Then we send them to jail.

It is a simple three step procedure to restore a semblance of Democracy to the soi disant United States.

It is called expression of the public will, and the Repugs circumvent it at the greatest peril.
This is a nation of a billion discarded tires, begging for some higher purpose.

[Joanne98]

27. I with you

[pennylane100]

20. He will still find a way to steal the election.

[Imagevision]

22. Do you remember when Bushco stated; "the exit polls got it all wrong?

umm... for the first time mind you.

[mod mom]

25. How can they do a legitimate poll by only including 2 of the 4 candidates

on the ballot? There will be 4 candidates: Strickland (D) Blackwell (R) Fitrakis (Green) and Peirce (Libertarian), yet the media/pollsters are in a news blackout (except the Cincinnati Enquirer) about the other two. If you think they are insignificant, then why would a Dem lawyer from DC call up one of the independent candidates and attempt to get him to pull out of the race? (BTW it will benefit Ohio voters to have independent candidates in the race in case of voting descrepancies(remember Blackwell is counting the vote and party turnover would likely result in REAL INVESTIGATIONS!) only candidates can challenge an outcome in Ohio and the Dem Party (as we see in the CA-50 race and saw in '04), are not aggressive when it comes to challenges).

[tbyg52]

39. Interesting...

...so that later they can use that as an excuse as to why the polls were "wrong"?

[mod mom]

46. ding..ding..ding.. we have a winner!

Blackwell has no intention of losing and most likely be brought under investigation.

[Imagevision]

29. Unemployment in Ohio is 6.3 percent, up from 4.2 percent

[AX10]

30. Some rigged polls will come out showing the race close enough...

so that it can be stolen by the GOP.

[jen4clark]

47. Exactly right, AX10!

And NOT just in OH. I'm fairly certain we can expect all the polls across the country to be "too close to call" as Nov. nears.

[Vidar]

31. Great news. Thanks for posting.

[LaPera]

34. Dem's again over confident!!!! When will they learn?

Arnold was at 32% just a couple of month's ago - Dem's were sure Arnold was toast and were all but celebrating, now, there's no way Arnold is going to lose in November unfortunately....Santorum, DeWine and at least a half a dozen other repugs counted out by these same Dem's, saying they were toast---They slowly creep back in....

I try to tell people I talk to every day and they just assume the Dem's already have the majority in the bag...Still a long way to go, I try to tell them, things change.... Republicans have all the money they need and tons of dirty trick, AND their number one dirty trick.... is always, when you have nothing to run on....LIE & USE CHARACTER ASSASSINATION AGAINST YOUR DEMOCRATIC OPPONENT. It's effective, it works, and it only turns-off one voting group from voting....the DEMOCRATS!

[tbyg52]

40. Right you are

And I think the top-level people grossly underestimate how closely the ballot boxes need to be watched.

[OzarkDem]

45. Agree, the fight is just beginning

The GOP hasn't even begun to spend their money yet, they'll be slinging a lot of mud from now until November.

[SeaBob]

41. Blackwell

Well what do you know there is some good news out there after all:)

[samsingh]

43. hope he gets destoyed in the electoin

[UrbScotty]

48. Can Strickland send some of that support to Michigan?

Granholm could use it.

[OzarkDem]

49. Its partly the anti-incumbency trend

Ted is able to take care of Taft's miserable record; Granholm is an incumbent, it won't be as easy.

Even so, I wish he could help her in some way.

[saltpoint]

56. You are right. Blackwell's numbers are irretrievably low, beyond even

Dieboldian manipulation.

The man is losing altitude very swiftly and is soon going to be in the Hail Mary tailspin.

May it bring a dozen more GOP office holders to their political graves in the Buckeye State.

[AtomicKitten]

58. Blackwell still remains poised to subvert another election.

He is doing everything in his power to manipulate the process in his favor. I remain worried.