Please don't waste time on Lieberman in CT

[NJmaverick]

Lieberman is still a Democrat. The Republicans are having managed to trick so many Democrats to waste their time and energy fighting themselves. I would like to see Lamont win, but it wouldn't be all that bad if Lieberman wins either. The Senator coming from CT will be a Democrat and THAT is what is most important right now. We should be devoting our time, energy and resources on other critical races. That will be how we recapture Congress, wich is our ULTIMATE GOAL!

[AzDar]

1. Lieberman is NO Democrat. Either Lamont wins, or we've lost the

seat. Period.

[movonne]

7. I agree with you 100%...

[NJmaverick]

10. He votes with the Dems most of the time

and he counts as a Dem for control purposes.

[LittleClarkie]

26. As long as there is still a D next to his name when he's done

he will still count toward a majority. If he officially changes his designation, then I will agree. But not yet. A marginal Dem is still a Dem.

[NJmaverick]

37. READ HIS OWN WORDS

I am and will always be a proud, progressive, strong-on-defense Democrat.

http://www.joe2006.com/

[AzDar]

47. If Joe-hole WERE STILL A DEMOCRAT, he would abide by the

wishes of the voters of Connecticut, and throw his support behind Lamont. He did not. He broke with the Party.
He IS NO LONGER A DEMOCRAT...he has an (I) next to his traitorous name.
Personally, I think the (I) stands for idiot...

[NJmaverick]

69. Show me this "I" you claim he has

I want some sort of official statement. Something resembling PROOF. You people are playing fast and loose with the facts.

[HockeyMom]

2. If Lieberman wins,

doesn't that actually mean that there is one less Dem in Congress? Lieberman would officially be counted as an "I" and the Democrats would, by default, have one less seat in terms of majority?

There is no such animal as an Independent Democrat.

[NJmaverick]

11. He is still a Dem now

No reason he still can't be a Dem

[citizen snips]

3. Lieberman is not a democrat

[Cassandra]

4. Lieberman is...

"devoting his time, energy and resources on other critical races" in a negative way. By pulling more Republicans into the voting booth, he is endangering the races farther down on the ticket.
Is this the new talking point now; that we shouldn't "waste time (or money)" opposing Lieberman? I've heard it from all directions the last few days.

[NJmaverick]

16. THis is being smart enough

Not to have the repukes sucker us into wasting our time and money fighting ourselves. The ENEMY is George Bush and his repuke enablers, not some wayward Democrat!

[Cassandra]

81. Wayward Democrat?

During the 2004 campaign, he went down to Florida and spoke to Jewish groups, praising Bush's support of Israel and casting doubts about Kerry. What kind of Democrat trashes the top of the ticket?

[NJmaverick]

93. Joe Campaigned for Kerry in Florida

He was side by side with him stumping for the Jewish vote. You seem to have turned on this guy so bad, you have forgotten all the good things he did.

[Cha]

96. The enemy is also lieberman the repuke

in dino clothing.

And don't worry we're going to focus our energy on a lot things and right up that at the top is your boy goin' down in Connecticut. Ya didn't make the case.

[mdmc]

5. what would you consider a waste of time?

Most people are just rantin on threads here, much like myself. Most of us work and do political work, then post on DU just of shits and giggles.

I'm not workin politically in CT, but I will rant against those elected Dems that oppose Lamont; they best not moan when they end up facing a progressive third party challenge.

Peace, God.

[madfloridian]

6. You don't get what is going on here.

Recapturing congress means nothing if there is no credible candidate who won the party vote.

[NJmaverick]

I get "IT" better than you do

With the Dems controlling congress, the DEMS set the agenda, the DEMS finally get to investigate all of bush's crimes and the DEMS can finally stop bush.

[calico1]

20. Good God!

Have you not kept up with Lieberman? He trashes Democrats, has his head up the ass of Bushco as far as it can go, votes "only 10 % of the time" with Republicans but on the most damaging things. He loses the Democratic primary and bolts the party. He isn't a Democrat anymore, in case you didn't notice. The Democrat in CT is Ned Lamont. Lieberman has also hired Republican a republican pollster, Republican campaign staff, has endorsements from such charming people as Hannity, Malkin, Limbaugh. Where have you been? If you are tired of hearing about Lieberman and want to concentrate on other seats, fine. But I happen to be from CT and I get it pretty well, thank you. Please don't tell me I need to forget about what Lieberman is doing to the party. :grr:

[NJmaverick]

24. Well then I hope you like the republicans then

Because you will have them controlling congress while you enjoy your revenge over Lieberman.

[LincolnMcGrath]

29. Stop trying to frame this as revenge. Joe lost the Primary, Quit the party

and is running AGAINST the only Democrat running in Ct.

[NJmaverick]

33. We have a dem running against a dem

Big deal! We have other states with REPUBLICANS running against Dems. Have you forgotten who the enemy is?!?!?

[LincolnMcGrath]

36. Joe is not a Democrat He quit the party.

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[LincolnMcGrath]

40. Joe is running AGAINST THE ONLY DEMOCRAT running in Ct.

He quit the party.

[NJmaverick]

42. Do you understand what "quit the party" means?

Perhaps you can post a link to the news article where he made that announcement. Perhaps you can show me where the DNC made that announcement.

[LincolnMcGrath]

44. Is he running as a Democrat? The answer is no. He quit the party.

[NJmaverick]

46. Is he still holding DEMOCRATIC seats in the Sentate

YES! So he has not quit the party!

[LincolnMcGrath]

50. He is no longer a Democrat. Reid can bump him if he chooses.

He has quit the party.

Partys don't own seats by the way... :eyes:

[NJmaverick]

54. He didn't bump him, because he didn't quit the party!

Joe is still in the party.

[LincolnMcGrath]

55. Democrats can remove Lieberman tomorrow. He is no longer a Dem.

[NJmaverick]

57. ACCORDING TO WHO???

Neither Lieberman or the Democratic party has made this claim.. WHERE ON EARTH do you get your information?!?!

[LincolnMcGrath]

59. The Ballots in Ct. for one. Joe himself for two.

Joe quit the party.

[NJmaverick]

58. PROVE IT! Show me an official statement

saying he quit. Prove it, and I will happily admit I was wrong and you were right.

[LincolnMcGrath]

60. Is he running a s a Dem? No

Let's all try for spin #4

Joe quit the party. He is no longer a Democrat.

[NJmaverick]

63. Didn't think you could prove it

So stop stating false information!

[LincolnMcGrath]

66. Joe quit the party. He is no longer a Democrat. He is not running as a

Democrat.

[LincolnMcGrath]

45. You are forbidden from pimping Joe's website on this Democratic

message forum called DU!

[NJmaverick]

61. Pimping Joe's website?!?!?!

Have you taken leave of your senses???? Please you are pimping the the RNC with your pushing to waste our time, money and energy in CT. You are helping the republicans far more than Joe is!

[LincolnMcGrath]

64. Calling me crazy doesn't change the fact that Joe quit the party and

you are forbidden from posting his website here.

[Cha]

102. You believe that lying son-

of-bitch? I got a bridge in Arizona that's for sale.

[Cha]

101. Wake the fuck up ..joe is not a Dem..he's

a fucking indy running with rove's help.

[calico1]

30. What part of Lieberman not running as a Democrat

do you not get? And what part of him being surrounded by Republicans to help reelect him is not getting through to you???? He abandoned the party to run in his own party. The Democratic candidate is Ned Lamont, NOT Lieberman.

[NJmaverick]

32. What part of "HE STILL CALLS HIMSELF A DEMOCRAT"

don't you get?!?!?!

[LincolnMcGrath]

35. Rush Limbaugh calls himself "America's Truth Detector"

Doesn't mean anyone could believe it though.

[NJmaverick]

49. Lieberman has many faults

Lying doesn't seem to be one of them. What makes you think he is lying?!?

[LincolnMcGrath]

53. Lieberman lost the primary, quit the party, and is running against the only

Democrat running in Ct.

[NJmaverick]

56. Seems to me saying Liberman quit the party

Is more dishonest than anything I have heard Lieberman say.

[LincolnMcGrath]

62. Seems to me that trying 4-5 different faulty frames to try to slip a pro-

Lieberman thread in art DU is more dishonest than anything I have said.


Joe quit the party.

[calico1]

68. If Joe Lieberman is a Democrat then why is he

running against the Democrat chosen in the primary? Why didn't he respect the primary results. Why is he running as his own party's candidate? It's nice that for you all a person has to say is "I am a Democrat" and that's good enough for you. Some of us need more evidence than just words.

[NJmaverick]

71. You are willing to give up control of Congress?

Just so you have your proof?

[IndianaGreen]

78. Why don't you pose that question to Holy Joe?

Why don't you ask him why he persist in challenging the Democratic nominee when in doing so, he gives aid and comfort to the GOP.

[NJmaverick]

80. He only gives aid and comfort to the RNC

If we waste our time fighting against him. Let Lamont and Lieberman slug it out over who will be CT's DEMOCRATIC Senator. We have far more important matters to tend to.

[Cassandra]

88. "Let Lamont and Lieberman slug it out...

over who will be CT's DEMOCRATIC Senator". They did already. Lamont won, Lieberman lost. Which part of the primary were you not paying attention to?

[LincolnMcGrath]

90. lol

:thumbsup:

[NJmaverick]

92. Well seems like Joe wants a rematch

While you seem to have lost the forest because of all those trees. We need to remember that we she be attacking the REPUBLICANS, not other Democrats.

[LincolnMcGrath]

97. You did not just call for a "Do-Over" on an adult political website?

:rofl:

Joe is no longer a Democrat. He quit the Party. Get over it.

[Cassandra]

99. Joe needs to remember...

that HE is supposed to be attacking REPUBLICANS, not Democrats. Unfortunately, he's been giving aid and comfort to Bushco for several years now.

[calico1]

39. Oh, I see.

So even though he votes with the Republicans on some major issues, and is enthusiastically accepting Republican support for his reelection AND he abandoned the DEMOCRATIC party because he refused to accept the primary results, the fact that he calls himself a Democrat should be enough for me, right? I should ask no more questions. :eyes:

I am from CT. I don't tell New Jersey people who to vote for. Don't tell me how to vote, okay?

[NJmaverick]

43. Let the Republicans waste their money getting a Dem elected

We need to spend our money else where, CONGRESS is what counts, not revenge.

[calico1]

48. Like I said before, if you don't care about Ct, fine.

It's your choice. But don't tell other people where they should or shouldn't concentrate their efforts or concerns.

[NJmaverick]

65. Why not? You are telling them to WASTE our precious

resources in CT. Seems to me if we want to WIN back Congress, we need to be smart about campaigning. We can not play the fools to bush, dick and the RNC.

[calico1]

84. I am from CT so CT is not a waste of time for me,

thank you very much.

:eyes:

[Cassandra]

89. It is Lieberman who is wasting our resources.

Why don't you contact him and tell him to get out of the race?

[Cha]

98. No, you show you don't get it

at all.

[physioex]

8. Not a chance....

LIEberman is a sick twisted Neocon thung. He has the blood of everyone who died in Iraq on his hands just as much a Chimp. Maybe he burn in hell as he deserves......

[NJmaverick]

74. well as long as we are not letting emotion misguide us...

I fell much better, after that explanation.

[IndianaGreen]

9. Lieberman is not a Democrat

He prefers Bush!

[NJmaverick]

15. I prefer Democrats controlling congress

The repukes are playing you all for fools. We are playing with house money in CT

[IndianaGreen]

17. Then vote for Lamont and stop peddling Lieberman's name around here!

As to the repukes, I don't give a rat's ass what any of them have to say.

[NJmaverick]

21. I don't want anyone wasting time on Lieberman

The Repukes have us wasting time, money and energy fighting among ourselves. We MUST keep our eye on the ultimate prize, which is control of Congress!

[LincolnMcGrath]

23. " I don't want anyone wasting time on Lieberman"

Then stop peddling his wares here on DU. He is NOT a Democrat.

[NJmaverick]

31. How am I peddling anything???

Emotion bad! Logic and Reason good! Think! We need control of congress, we don't have the luxary of playing the revenge game.

[LincolnMcGrath]

34. Please stop with the faulty revenge frame. Joe lost the Primary, Quit the

Party and is running AGAINST THE ONLY Democratic candidate in Ct.

[acmavm]

28. And you think everyone cares what you want?

He's being supported by the bush** administration and the republican party.

He is not a democrat.

[calico1]

22. If you prefer Democrats then support the Democratic

candidate in CT....NED LAMONT. Lieberman is not running as a Democrat!

[NJmaverick]

27. I am not going to waste my time with CT

It's a Dem lock. I will be concentrating on Menendez in NJ and Webb in VA as well as other key races. THAT is where we NEED victories.

[Burried News]

12. No sale. The HoeJoe has gotta go.

[NJmaverick]

18. Even if it costs us control of Congress?????

That could be what it comes down to. Neglect key races to extract some revenge on Joe??? Not good for the Country or the world.

[LincolnMcGrath]

19. How does having Joe as a Senator help us achieve majority status?

I would suggest that anyone who thinks Joe will caucus with Dems again is being played a fool.

[NJmaverick]

67. I think anyone wasting time

Attacking a Democrat instead of a Republican is the one being played the fool.

[LincolnMcGrath]

72. "Attacking a Democrat instead of a Republican"

Are you referring to when Joe led the charge against B C in the Senate floor?


Are you refereeing to when Joe slid a shiv in Al Gore's back?


Joe quit the party, He is no longer a Democrat.

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[LincolnMcGrath]

WOW Imagine that! A DUer questioning my party loyalty.

Joe quit the party. Get over it.

If races other than Ct. are important to you, quit pimping for the guy running against the only Democrat running in Ct.

[LincolnMcGrath]

85. Nice edit. BTW who is this "rest the party" 79% of National Democrats

were happy with the outcome in Ct.

Why are you turing your back against the overwhelming majority of the party?

[left is right]

13. I would rather see the Republican candidate win over Lieberman

At least we wouldn't have a "Democrat" giving cover to the Bush administration. And besides, many Repukes will begin to actively run away from Bush. Maybe this unknown Republican would start his career by running away from him also.

[NJmaverick]

41. YOU WILL SEE LOTS OF REPUBLICANS WINNING

If you continue to WASTE time, energy and money fighting a Democrat

[hijinx87]

51. that's just suicidal. n/t

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[Totally Committed]

25. "Please don't waste time on Lieberman in CT..."

said the spider to the fly. Nice try, though.

TC

[NJmaverick]

52. Oh yeah I am banging my head against the wall

Trying to refocuse this heard of cats on what is IMPORTANT. What seems more important than winning back Congress and stopping the destruction of our Nation is sooth the hurt egos. Joe screwed up big time on Iraq... Well most of the time he doesn't screw up, and he is still a LIBERAL DEMOCRAT.

[hijinx87]

70. your point is well spoken.

there is no way CT will go red, so the best the rethugs can
hope for is a divisive and contentious election between two
democrats.

[NJmaverick]

76. Exactly and so far they are getting their wish

We need to concentrate our efforts else where. Webb is now competative in VA, that would be a good place to start.

[hijinx87]

82. not to pick at a scab

but if anyone is a closet rethug, it is probably webb.

having said that, if I lived in VA I would hold my nose and
vote for him.

[OzarkDem]

73. Recapturing Congress is of the utmost importance, period

We have to make sure Dems make gains in all the races.

[NJmaverick]

77. EXACTLY!!!!

We need to keep our eye on the prize!

[IndianaGreen]

79. which is why Holy Joe should drop out and endorse Lamont

otherwise he is just another of Rove's agents.

[NJmaverick]

83. It would be nice if he dropped out

but that isn't as critical as OUR reaction to him running. Don't you understand? Don't you think recapturing Congress is what's important? Have you forgotten the REPUBLICANS are the REAL enemy?

[hijinx87]

86. words of wisdom

we do this a lot. in fighting over relatively small differences, we
forget that the rethugs are the enemy.

thank you for this reminder.

[hijinx87]

87. congratulations on your 1000th post, by the way. n/t

[NJmaverick]

91. Thank you!

[Cha]

94. You have got to be shitting

me?!



Get a room lie-man!

[LincolnMcGrath]

103. Can you believe this horse hockey is allowed here?

Imagine if you will, If the situation were reversed and a member of "the left" "far left" "leftist boogieman" or a "Green Devil" had decided to run against the only Democrat running in Ct.

[Cha]

104. Instead we have a repuke in

Indy(iino)clothing since the Dems were too wise for him.

[w4rma]

95. No. (nt)

[Singular73]

100. And when he accepts the deal to switch parties for a commity assignment

will you support him then?

Losermann is only for Losermann...noone else.

[ncrainbowgrrl]

105. Locking.

Lieberman is not the democratic candidate in the race, therefore support of his candidacy is supporting third party candidates.