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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 08:31 AM
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Allen's 'macaca' comment was more than words. Watch it again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G7gq7GQ71c

When you watch this video of G. Felix Allen, Junior, get past the word 'macaca'. Watch and absorb, instead, the context and the tone. They've been trying to spin the actual words many ways and look silly doing it. We've been harping on the word and its etymology. And the fact that it is probable it was learned in childhood from his mother.

That debate is ...... well ...... debatable.

What is not debatable is the context and tone. G. Felix Allen, Junior, was clearly intent on insulting the dark skinned young man, making him the object of derision for an all white audience. Even if the word used to describe him was much more benign, the indisputable 'welcome to America' part was reason enough to criticize Allen.

G. Felix Allen, Junior, in front of an all-white rural audience, chose to single out a young man of some obvious ethnicity with a derisive and unwelcoming, non-inclusive focus. No matter the words, when taken as a whole, the entire incident speaks volumes about the inherent prejuduces of a sitting United States Senator. The tone was venomous and insulting and obviously intended to be exactly that.

Let the nutters try to spin the meaning of the word. For our part, let's not lose sight of the tone and the context. G. Felix Allen, Junior, is a racist and his recent remarks proved it.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 08:34 AM
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1. yeah, the "Welcome to America" crack is what sealed it
and glad the Dem is getting a bounce from it too

:hi:
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 08:41 AM
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2. Now, after read your post everyone will say "of course, this proves..."
"...Allen is a despicable rat-bastard Republican."

But it took someone a week to point it out.
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 08:45 AM
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3. As a white male I see this all the time
Racism is alive and well in the white community.

For a moment Allen felt safe surrounded by all the white faces. For a moment he forgot the camera recording his every action and word.

The facade came off and like Mel Gibson's alcohol induced tirade the inner bigot, the one that only dares reveal itself under the white hood of anonimity, reveals itself.

On the other hand, perhaps this wasn't carelessness but rather a moment of pandering. If his handlers believe that they need "white" Virginia and that those whites are primarily bigots he decided to pander for their votes all the while portraying himself as the victim of a vast left wing media conspiracy for attacking his "innocent" faux pas.

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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 09:16 AM
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4. G. Felix Allen, Junior is one of the meanest
nastiest SOB, I've seen in Congress. He is the bully everyone avoids. Just like Delay and company, there isn't anything nasty enough to keep him from doing it, if he thought it would help. He is perfect for the repubs. He is guaranteed the white racist vote in Virginia. I'm just not sure there are enough of them to keep him in power.

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Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 09:16 AM
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5. Well Said, H2S

Thanks for articulating what I instinctively felt after having seen G. Felix's disgraceful performance on video: his words are bad enough, but it's the delivery of those words and the obvious, ugly sentiments behind the delivery, that make it so bad......
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 09:32 AM
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6. wasn't he insulting him because he was filming felix? Was he
(the cameraman) part of the opposition party? Sounds like felix knew (or thought) he was. I think he was giving him a hard time for that. Now, if macaca is a racist term (who's heard of these terms? felix i guess) then that's uncool, but it sounds like he was mad at him for filming him
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 09:44 AM
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8. That's also true, but doesn't go to what I was positing ......
If he was pointing the guy out only as part of the opposition, he could just as easily have said something just as effective and gotten away with it. It could have been a complete non-story. Let's say he said something like: "See that guy over there? The one with the camera? He's working for the campaign of my opponent. You and I know what they're doing and why. They have nothing and are hoping to catch me making a slip of the tnogue. Or maybe they're just trying to see how its doene by a winner. In either case, let's all give a rousing welcome to this poor, misguided young man."

No, tone and context are everything here.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 06:41 PM
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13. true dat!
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fairfaxvadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 09:41 AM
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7. He's a piece of work. Can't wait to get rid of him.
We're working pretty hard in our area to unseat Allen and his co-idiot Frank Wolk (VA-10). If we can pull this off, it will be a major coup for Northern Virginia.

And the other poster is right, GFA is a nasty SOB, let no one kid themselves about that fact.

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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 09:49 AM
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9. "GFA is a nasty SOB, let no one kid themselves about that fact."
And that's exactly why I continue to see him as the heir apparent to Il Dunce. We can talk about all the other guys, but Allen fits perfectly with the agenda of that part of the Republican power elite currently in control of the party. He's a good actor, he knows all the code words. He has a manufacturered 'everyman' personnna. He's dumb as dirt and easily controlled, being more hungry for personal glory and power than driven by an ideology. He'd be exstatic to give over control for the trappings of power it would accord him.

His legacy, were he to win the Presidency in 08, would be "Worse than George W. Bush". He would be a disaster. While I want to see us win it all in 06 and 08, I would be almost as happy if all we do is keep him out of the Senate in 06, thereby essentially killing his 08 chances.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 09:54 AM
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10. I read it somewhere some time ago...
...that Allen was the designated heir to Bushco's presidency.

And Tweety likes him a lot. Fair warning.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 10:11 AM
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11. Good insight H2S
I thought much the same thing. The "welcome to America" remark was far more telling than "macacca."

Plus the man has the sneer of a racist. Not to play pop psychologist (ok, I will), but I'd bet a doughnut that Allen was trying to overcompensate for having an immigrant Jewish mother at a time in America when that was still considered declasse amongst the ruling elite. He was in white, upscale Palos Verdes, his father was a revered football coach, and he spent his formative years trying to prove himself as the whitest of the white, in a subliminal effort to suppress his maternal not-so-American-blueblood origins.

How's that for the premise of a psycho-biography?
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 10:28 AM
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12. "How's that for the premise of a psycho-biography?"
I'd say it was pretty damned good, rugger!
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 07:47 PM
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14. He reminds me of the guy in the Harry Potter movie who was
turned into a rat. He has those long yellow rat fangs and round rodent cheeks.
:scared: :scared: :scared: :scared:
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hijinx87 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 08:03 PM
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15. and it has cost him

somewhere around 6 points in the polls.

it's just too bad this didn't happen closer to the election.

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