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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 02:43 PM
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Kerry finally plays well in SC
Edited on Fri Aug-18-06 02:48 PM by politicasista
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Kerry finally plays well in S.C.
By LEE BANDY
lbandy@thestate.com

When U.S. Sen. John Kerry announced he was coming to South Carolina to talk about health care and raise money for the state Democratic Party, one could almost hear the groans from Greenville to Charleston.

Skeptics said the Massachusetts Democrat would be lucky to draw a dozen or so people.

Some 400 people jammed into the Woodmen of the World hall in West Columbia to hear Kerry. An estimated 250 were turned away, organizers said.

“We ran out of food,” said Kathy Hensley, chairwoman of the Lexington County Democratic Party.

Hensley said she has not seen anything like the reception Kerry received in her 50 years around politics. “I was pleasantly surprised by the whole thing.”

The senator had to tear himself away from the crowd, observers said. People followed him out the door to his car, hoping to shake his hand or get an autograph.



http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/news/local/15262695.htm

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 03:02 PM
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 03:09 PM
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2. How would Dean or Feingold win in South Carolina?
Clark perhaps. But the others? Fuggehdaboudit.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 05:21 PM
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11. I think mr bradley is pulling legs here.
In one thread, Kerry is a great liberal, in another he's a loser and in another he advocates for ALL Dem incumbents to be voted out.
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billbradley Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 11:26 AM
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25. my reply.
IM NOT pulling legs. I said Kerry is more liberal than Gore or Clinton and IMHO, he is. In spite of that,I still believe he and Gore are losers based on 2000/2004 and will lose to anyone but a weak GOPig candidate. And I advocate for all INCUMBENTS,not just Dems ,to be voted out when they betray their base or country like LIEberman. Get IT????????????
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 11:33 AM
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27. So, you don't believe BushInc committed election fraud BECAUSE
Edited on Sat Aug-19-06 12:21 PM by blm
they were faced with two strong candidates in 2000 and 2004?

Gee - if Kerry was so weak, why would BushInc go to all that trouble to foster a group like the swifts, press all their mediawhores into 24/7 service, suppress Dem votes through every trick they could, and rig machines all over the country?

A weak Dem candidate wouldn't have given them so much extra work. They could have won easily from a weak Dem candidate who would have not shown well during the debates.

A weak Dem PARTY, on the other hand, did let them get away with all their above tactics.
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billbradley Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 11:57 AM
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28. IMHO
The pigs will lie cheat and steal ANYTIME they can no matter WHO is running. If its a so called landslide then they claim a "mandate". If not they tout "a win is a win" .
Kerry did himself a huge diservice by not STRONGLY responding to the swifties immediately, and by not releasing him form 180. He could have diffused the whole matter and turned it to his advantage. HE DID NOT. For whatever reason, HE IS A LOSER,IMHO.
Gore refused to involve Clinton enough, and to run on the STERLING Clinton/Gore record. That doomed him. Therefore, once again ,IMHO, he is a LOSER.

DEAN (or Feingold or Clark) CAN WIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IMHO
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 12:19 PM
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29. Kerry released everything necessary and the corpmedia muted his counters
Edited on Sat Aug-19-06 12:22 PM by blm
to the swifts. Just as they would have muted any Dem. It's what they do to ALL Dems, not just Kerry.

You think the GOPs didn't have Vietnam-era SkiLift Operators for Truth lined up if Dean were the nominee?

Get real - the corpmedia has been promoting every storyline the RNC gives it and has been since 1997.

And that 180 release is ANOTHER red herring YOU swallowed from the freepers. Gee - you sure do use alot of RW talking points.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 12:23 PM
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30. "not releasing him form 180"? Huge RW red flag using Swift Liars meme! n/t
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 12:35 PM
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31. We have a research forum here
that details the response to the swiftboat liars. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_oet&address=358x2555
Please read Boehlert's 'Lapdogs' if you want to know what really happened in '04 instead of spouting RW talking points ad nauseum.
Unsubstantiated attacks on good Democrats is not the purpose of DU, and does little to advance your argument, whatever that might be, so your 'HO' in this regard means little, IMHO.

Welcome to DU, BTW.

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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 09:38 AM
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22. Dean's not running and the real straight talker Russ can take of himself!
Great news, however, that Kerry is drawing crowds in South Carolina! Evidently, the people of South Carolina have figured Bushco out!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 03:16 PM
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3. Some critics really don't know what they are talking about.
Bill Bradley is a Rhodes Scholar -- damn it man, deal with facts (and reality).
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 03:19 PM
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4. Methinks Dem activists and voters don't deserve to be called freeloaders
Edited on Fri Aug-18-06 03:23 PM by blm
out for a free meal.

And I was at that event - there were over 500 people there on a very hot Saturday afternoon, and over 200 were turned away.

Very similar to the Dean event in Charlotte which also drew about 500 when they had planned for half that.

Methinks some Dem strategists are exaggerating the whole fear of the Northeast liberal thingy.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 02:11 AM
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18. Somebody finally gets it!
I'm a southern Democrat. We don't "fear" northeastern liberals. We just worry that
A) they're going to take our guns away
B) they're going to keep supporting stuff like NAFTA that prevents us from catching up with the rest of the country

Overcome those two fears and IMO you'll sweep the south. But don't pander. If you're not a NASCAR fan, nobody wants to see you drag yourself to the brickyard. Just come on down, be yourself, and persuade us.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 09:34 AM
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21. Tell it to the Dem strategists who think southerners are too shallow a
breed.

I think they blather on in fulltime spin mode to pay their high DC mortgages. There is no mortgage payment that can be made if the Dems concentrate on securing voting machines from election fraud.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 03:28 PM
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5. I'll take the word of the woman who hadn't seen anything like it
in 50 years. Where do you get 4,000,000? 4,000,000 Democrats in SC? I kinda doubt that.

So why would freeloaders want the man's autograph or to shake his hand?

Your comments don't make alot of sense.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 03:51 PM
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7. Gee - you were just hailing Kerry as a great liberal in another thread.
Of course that was when you had THREE posts.
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billbradley Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 11:28 AM
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26. my reply
I said Kerry is more liberal than Gore or Clinton and IMHO, he is. In spite of that,I still believe he and Gore are losers based on 2000/2004 and will lose to anyone but a weak GOPig candidate. And I advocate for all INCUMBENTS,not just Dems ,to be voted out when they betray their base or country like LIEberman. Get IT????????????
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Bretttido Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 03:03 PM
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34. They actually both WON in 2000 and 2004
Despite what the "official" results were. If you consider anyone who runs for the most prestigious office in the entire planet and doesn't happen to "officially" win, a loser, you have a really perverted concept of what a loser is. Save that term for a deadbeat dad that abuses his wife; not a Senator that has served honorably for decades and was unsuccessful in stripping power from the most corrupt administration in our history. If he is a loser, what have you done for this country in comparison?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 05:32 PM
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 03:32 PM
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6. He was great here in Charleston.
Spoke at the Longshoremen's union hall...which was packed. I was right there in the front row when he came down off the platform and did his speech and Q&A from the floor among the attendees.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 04:16 PM
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8. There was barely room to breathe in Columbia
And by late afternoon it was sweltering. Nobody seemed to care one whit about the heat.
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 04:24 PM
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9. Same here.
Except the ILA local here has a really great new building with really good A/C.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 05:16 PM
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10. I'm a big fan of the ILA. Attended the announcement speech in
Mt. Pleasant in 2003, and hung in the back shouting with the Longshoremen. I had to stay far away from mr blm and with a hat pulled down low, as he works for a newsgroup and no political activism is allowed.
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TNC4DNC Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 09:24 PM
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36. That's nice he drew such a large unexpected crowd...
I like Kerry. I didn't vote for him in the primary, but he certainly should've won over Bush with his corrupt election. However, SC is still a SOLIDLY RED STATE I WOULD BET ANYTHING! It is easy to go to a rally and think that the party that loses miserably there year after year all of a sudden has a chance. I really doubt it, because triple the number of people that didn't go to that rally probably wished they could've run over him with a pick-up truck, with the Confederate flag waving proudly of course.
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 06:18 PM
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13. Allen/McCain rally draws few
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Everybody Hates McCain
I thought the country's collective mancrush meant that no one could resist travelling hundreds of miles to bask in his manly glare for a few moments. Guess not.
The evening was billed as a "veterans for Allen" rally, but the hotel's conference room was less than half-filled, even after a phone push for a larger turnout. Veterans came from as far away as Colonial Heights, but their numbers were little greater than the reporters and camera people who were there.
As it was, the rally started 10 minutes late and finished more than 20 minute early, according to a campaign worker's schedule.
-Atrios 11:25 AM
http://atrios.blogspot.com/2006_08_13_atrios_archive.html#115582934576508986

Sen. John McCain of Arizona bolstered Allen's defense credentials at a Veterans for Allen rally in downtown Norfolk. About 125 people attended the event at the Norfolk Marriott hotel.
http://www.timesdispatch.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=RTD%2FMGArticle%2FRTD_BasicArticle&%09s=1045855935264&c=MGArticle&cid=1149190018926&path=!news!politics

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 06:25 PM
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14. There's your contrast for the next two years.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 06:30 PM
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15. Isn't Allen from VA or is it
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 10:20 PM
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16. Katherine Harris rally draws fewer
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

This is hilarious.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1937180
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 11:20 PM
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17. it's nice to hear a report unfiltered by media spin!
This is great. The republican party has been unmasked and seen as the incompetent bunch it really is. :)

It validates the report I saw about the soccer moms and nascar dads turning their backs on the GOP.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 10:03 AM
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24. McCain will soon rue the day he ever nodded for the dictatortot.
Bush has imprisoned McCain more permanently than the VietCong did.
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 09:19 AM
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20. LOL!
I guess McCain was smooching with the wrong guy in 2004. :rofl:
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benny05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 05:05 AM
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19. Why Not?
I think plenty of folks are looking for better healthcare than we have...and will turn out for such events.
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INdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 09:44 AM
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23. Kerry had his chance?
I get so tired of reading "Kerry had his chance " and its time to move on.. well yes Kerry did have his chance in 2004 and he won. Any
Democratic nominee would have lost thanks to electronic voting machines and voter fraud.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 01:06 PM
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32. yes, he did. And the election problems are still with us.
That's why we have to really get out the vote. We need to overcome the margin of fraud that is going to occur. I think this year looks promising, though--it looks like it will be an election so overwhelming that they can't steal it--if we all work hard.
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chaska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 02:48 PM
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33. Well, that IS a surprise... This is my hometown. I know the place...,
that particular hall. Lexington county is extremely conservative.

I haven't lived in SC in a while, but am moving back soon. I don't think too much should be made of this, but it's nice to hear anyway.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 03:26 PM
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35. The main reason for posting this
Edited on Sat Aug-19-06 03:30 PM by politicasista
was to show that politicians from the North can connect with southerners.


These are frustrating times where people are fed up with this criminal administration and want a major political figure to just come and listen to their concerns.
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