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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 06:35 PM
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Evan Bayh appeared on O'Reilly's show one day after the 2004 election
Edited on Thu Aug-17-06 06:37 PM by nam78_two
saying the democrats lost because they were too lefty unlike the "moderates" of the GOP :eyes:...

He is a real DINO....He bashes dems for being "too liberal" all the time.

I don't like Evan Bayh-why is he popular :shrug:

Gore 2008 :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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joemurphy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 06:38 PM
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1. Evan's basically an asshole. He's never had an original
thought or idea in his life. He's say or do whatever he thinks is expedient and in Evan's interests.
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 06:42 PM
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2. Try running as a liberal in Indiana and see where it gets you.
He may be a DINO, but he is 1000% better than what would be in his seat if he wasn't there.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 06:44 PM
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3. Thats fine-I am talking about 2008
He says he plans to run.....
He would be an awful prez candidate imo...
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 08:07 PM
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10. How does trashing the national base help?
he could just keep his mouth shut. Nobody made him say that (or feed the o'reilly for that matter).
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 06:46 PM
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4. Just another winner of the sperm lottery
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 06:58 PM
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5. Don't forget Evan Bayh's had his removed his name as Joe's CLI co-chair.
I saw it in a press release--his joining Lieberman as honorary co-chair. You can no longer find the press release on the web. I have posted it in the past.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0501/28/ip.01.ht...

WOODRUFF: So he had something important to do in Switzerland?

NOVAK: Yes. WOODRUFF: The World Economic Forum. All right. We know that there was a surprising "no" vote to the Condi Rice nomination.

NOVAK: Evan Bayh, the moderate from Indiana voted "no," but the interesting thing about that is that on February 14th, 2003, Senator Bayh joined Joe Lieberman and John McCain as honorary co-chair of the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq, you know, because of all the weapons of mass destruction.

I looked at the Web site and he has taken himself off of that. I've been trying to find out all day when he left that committee. But I would say Evan Bayh is moving left and that means he is after the Democratic nomination for president.

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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 07:17 PM
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6. Did he say he was sorry about his IWR vote, or not?
If so, when?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 07:24 PM
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8. Evan Bayh just like John Edwards said sorry on his IWR vote....
Edited on Thu Aug-17-06 08:03 PM by FrenchieCat
and his initial "Hawkishness".

So I guess many Democrats will forgive and forget and move on......and reward Bayh with the presidency as so many are doing for those saying the same thing he is saying! :shrug:


Although originally voting in favor of the Iraq resolution, Senator Bayh has become increasingly critical of the war in Iraq due to Bush's strategy in handling the war and because of WMD related intelligence failures; thus, Bayh asserts that he would not have voted to go to war with Iraq if he had known what is known today. He favors a flexible timeline for withdrawal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evan_Bayh


Guess Bayh is doing what most politicians do if they think they are going to run for Prez but must first win a primary.....play to the Dem base. :shrug:

Guess he is no different in that respect from most of them....as evidenced here....


Senator Evan Bayh calls for Iraq Withdrawal
http://www.progressiveu.org/121950-sen-evan-bayh-calls-for-iraq-withdrawal

Too bad most of them seem to figure out after the fact what was a mistake and what wasn't.

Me, I prefer to support someone who had enough instinct to know better from the git-go....not once the obvious writing was on the wall in front of their faces! T

It the initial decisions that makes the difference between real leaders and followers who pretend that they can lead if just given the chance!

I ain't going for the Okey-Doke! So sorry!
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 11:09 PM
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14. Evan Bayh: another person with his finger in the wind
Well, all the dead and wounded don't mean as much as their political careers. They condemn Iraq (now) and then carry on about how we should bomb Iran. Falling for "oops"?

Hack: Indiana senator Evan Bayh (D) told the Ft. Wayne Journal Gazette that he supported the corporate-written bankruptcy bill because "people who engage in irresponsible behavior" go bankrupt, and therefore "impose their bad decisions and the cost of that on other people who behave more responsibly." The scapegoating, of course, ignored the fact that most bankruptcies occur because of illness or job offs, not irresponsibility. In Indiana alone, Harvard researchers found 77,000 residents went bankrupt in 2004 because of skyrocketing medical bills. But then such insulting and dishonest rhetoric isn't a surprise from Bayh, a son of privilege who has raked in more than $290,000 in campaign contribution from the banking interests pushing the bankruptcy legislation. (Sirota 108)


Sounds like spreading lies is good for one's political future.

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tulip Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 10:57 PM
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12. Yes
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?Date=20051201&Category=NEWS01&ArtNo=51201031&SectionCat=&Template=printart

Saying that he relied on inaccurate information, Sen. Evan Bayh said today he would not have voted in 2002 to authorize President Bush to go to war in Iraq if he had known then what he knows now.
“Of course I would have done things differently knowing what I know today,” Bayh told reporters at his Indianapolis office.
But, he added, “I did what I thought was right at the time. Now it turns out that some of the facts were inaccurate. There were no weapons of mass destruction. We didn’t realize that this undertaking would be carried out in some ways as incompently as it’s been carried out.”

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/latestnews/index.php?id=623
and has been calling for Rummy's resignation since 2004.



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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 10:06 AM
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16. The question has always been:
Was Iraq a imminent threat to the US? Everyone of these "finger in the wind" kids, knew exactly what was going on regarding the weapons. They also knew that bush was going to attack Iraq. They were absolutely, positively, told behind closed doors. Bayh agreed with the "clean the swamp" PNACers.

People with such terrible foreign policy judgement do not belong in control of US foreign policy. No matter what their handlers now tell them to say now, they sold out their country for political gain. That is not leadership, and it most certainly not the type of person who will change the direction of our country. Ooops is not a foreign policy.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 07:21 PM
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7. They all NEED to say the party has to move right because STRATEGISTS told
them to say it.

They won't deal with machine fraud and election fraud, because THEN they would have to admit that liberal Kerry won by more votes than any candidate in history.

The centrists and Clintonites will NOT allow that to happen.

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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 07:29 PM
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9. you have an exact quote on that? Perhaps a transcript?
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 10:02 PM
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11. We don't need no transcript to get the circular firing squad going here/
:eyes:
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 10:58 PM
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13. radical right has become moderate, and actual moderate
has become "radical left".
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tulip Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 08:47 AM
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15. He's an honest politician
Edited on Fri Aug-18-06 08:48 AM by tulip
Why do peole like him?

He's very nice man in person. Met him only once. I think he'd be an asset on any ticket combination. When I look at any candidate I look at these characteristics 1. Foreign Relations experience (Bayh is on the U.S. Senate Intelligence Committee) 2. past record as a Senator, Governor or other leadership role (Bayh has all of that), 3. Not afraid of tackling the National Security issue that Bush and friends throw around constantly 4. REAL support for our troops (Bayh is on the armed services committee) and making sure our guys humping their butts in Bush's war have everything they need & knows it's time to pull out if Iraqi government won't get their job done. http://www.wave3.com/Global/story.asp?S=3247137">Senate Passes Amendment To Provide More Armored Humvees
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?Date=20060108&Category=NEWS02&ArtNo=601080441&Template=printart">Armor must be sufficient, Bayh says

Most voters are somewhere in the middle and Bayh appeals to that group.

BTW I like Edwards and Clark too. Actually like all the potential 08 dems. Would support several combinations. We're in great shape compared to what Republicans have.
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