In one sentence, Cheney concedes on 2 fronts

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

In a speech in Arizona a this week, Cheney said the following when discussing Lamont's victory in Connecticut.

“Their choice, instead, is a candidate whose explicit goal is to give up the fight against the terrorists in Iraq,’’ Cheney said.

http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/news_theswamp/2006/08/cheney_vs_the_d.html

Thus does Cheney continue to conflate War on Terror and The War in Iraq. He may finally be correct. Through a hideous, self-fulfilling prophecy, the two may have become one and the same although they did not start out that way.

The Iraq War was sold to us initially as a preemptive war against a mad dictator with WMD's. Few pushed the terrorism angle, with the lone exception of Cheney, who continued to insist that an Iraqi operative had met Atta in Prague.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2003/09/16/cheney_link_of_iraq_911_challenged/

Cheney link of Iraq, 9/11 challenged
By Anne E. Kornblut and Bryan Bender , Globe Staff and Globe Correspondent, 9/16/2003

WASHINGTON -- Vice President Dick Cheney, anxious to defend the White House foreign policy amid ongoing violence in Iraq, stunned intelligence analysts and even members of his own administration this week by failing to dismiss a widely discredited claim: that Saddam Hussein might have played a role in the Sept. 11 attacks.

Evidence of a connection, if any exists, has never been made public. Details that Cheney cited to make the case that the Iraqi dictator had ties to Al Qaeda have been dismissed by the CIA as having no basis, according to analysts and officials. Even before the war in Iraq, most Bush officials did not explicitly state that Iraq had a part in the attack on the United States two years ago.

So, we won the war against the dictator, but through massive malfeasance, have turned over much of Iraq to internal and external terror. Way to go, Dick. Sometimes, it's best NOT to be right.

[sweetheart]

1. Mr. creedy will go down...

I saw the film, and when V gets creedy (edit to fix mispelling of creedy that sounded too much
like 'cheney') and guts him like a deer, along with his criminal henchmen,
we can all dance and sing.

[Tellurian]

4. The movie "WHY WE FIGHT" is on new releases on DEMAND,,

or you can Netflix it...A birds eye view coming from no other than Dwight D. Eisenhower and his grandson John. The late,President Eisenhower, warns of the inherent danger of a militaristic society, where privatization by connected corporate polities would spell disaster for US Citizens.. It's a must see eyeopener, the OLD time Republican guard never wanted the government the Bush Cartel have created for us.

THE BONUS OF WATCHING THIS MOVIE...

ALL THE USURPATION OF CITIZENS RIGHT IS PINNED DIRECTLY AND SUCCINCTLY ON **CHENEY..ALL BACKED BY FACT..
A MUST SEE MOVIE FOR EVERYONE WHO WANTS TO TURN BACK THE CLOCK AND RETURN TO THE COUNTRY WE ONCE WERE!

[sweetheart]

7. I'll check it out

Not that i don't know why i fight, but i would like to know why we fight. :-)

The corporate cartel has cross the line, ain't no turnin' bakk..

[mdmc]

2. nice catch

:kick:

[izzie]

3. Face it we have to stay in Iraq with these two in power

Time and new election or Congress cutting off the money will only stop it. Bush and Co and the Iraq war are one and the same. It is what they are. I really do not think Bush will bring them out and it will have to be Congress or a new president. Vice has to keep this type talk up. He is the junk yard dog in this stage show.

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

5. And to clarify a bit

There were many, many people, ( myself among others) - who NEVER bought the "mad dictator with WMD's" argument - especially the PRE-EMPTIVE part. Who looks great in retrospect? Those willing to speak their conscience in spite of the rush to war by the media and the administration. We need to look to that group to find our true leaders and heroes. I see Gore, Kucinich and Feingold. And, strangely enough, Pat Buchanan never joined the chorus either. I don't agree with him about much, but on this we overlap. I also recall McLaughlin being against the war.

The single biggest media letdown of history, morals, conscience - The New York Times. Combine that with their failure of the NSA story on election eve. Devastating.

[theanarch]

6. this is simply Sophistry 101...for the junta to announce it is...

..."learning more about the links between Iraq and al-Qaeda" is meant to INSINUATE that such links exist; of course, the more they investigate, the more they learn that such links did NOT exist...which is precisely WHY they won't (e.g. can't afford to) say WHAT they've "learned". Since they already know this, it is exceedingly doubtful that they are even doing any more 'investigating' whatsoever. Very reminiscent of the WH having Santorum "break" the news that WMD's had been found after all...even though he was simply publicizing something the WH and weapon's inspectors already knew, and dismissed as irrelevant...anything to grab a headline and mislead the public, with the full complicity of the M$M.

[Tellurian]

8. Your post is based on the assumption the govt is honest with US

And we All know how that tune plays.. Or should know by now, anyway!

Ooops!

[theanarch]

9. uh, no...the point is this is how the government lies...

...to us, through such verbal sleights-of-hand; and as i wrote, i seriously doubt they are even looking at anything anyway (besides polling numbers, and how to manipulate them)...just another lie.

[Tellurian]

10. You just don't get it...

THEY create the polling numbers...THEY create their perception of themselves to you!
Everything you see and hear on the news is a creation of their propaganda machine.