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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 07:04 PM
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Repug Senator George Allen's Mom is Jewish, Tunisian, French and
might very well have been aware of the phrase "MACACCA."

From "Wikipedia" (but can be independently verified by a Google search.)

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Early years

His father George Herbert Allen was a legendary NFL coach who was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2002. His mother, Henrietta Lumbroso, was a Jewish immigrant of Tunisian/Italian/French background. The family lived in Southern California until 1957, when they moved to the suburbs of Chicago after George Sr. got a job with the Chicago Bears. The family moved back to Southern California (Palos Verdes) in 1966 after Allen's father was named head coach of the Los Angeles Rams.<1>


Education

Allen graduated from Palos Verdes High School, where he was a member of the falconry club and the car club. He was also quarterback of the varsity football team. He was once suspended for painting graffiti on school walls. (Whether the graffitti was racist or not is disputed.) Classmates and a school administrator told The New Republic magazine that the graffitti was racist and was intended to fuel racial animosity toward a rival school.<2>

Allen received a B.A. degree with distinction in history and then a Juris Doctor degree from the University of Virginia School of Law. Allen, a supporter of Nixon and the Vietnam war, was graduating class president at UVA. In 1976, while a university student, Allen was selected as Chairman of Young Virginians for Reagan.


Government career

He was graduating class president at UVA (1974). He has been a Virginia delegate (1982-1991), congressman (1991-1993), governor (1994-1998), and senator (2001-Present).

His first race for delegate was in 1979, two years after he graduated from law school. He lost that race but won two years later and was a Republican member of the Virginia House of Delegates from 1982 to 1991, representing a district in Albemarle County. On November 5, 1991, he won a special election to fill the seat in the U.S. House of Representatives for Virginia's 7th District, Incumbent congressman D. French Slaughter, Jr. had resigned due to a series of strokes.

Allen's career in the House was short-lived, however. In the 1990s round of redistricting, Allen's district, which stretched from the fringes of the Washington suburbs to Charlottesville and included much of the Shenandoah Valley, was eliminated even though Virginia gained a congressional seat as a result of the 1990 Census. This came because the Justice Department required Virginia to draw a majority-black district in order to comply with the Voting Rights Act. His district was split between three neighboring districts. While his home in Earlysville (a suburb of Charlottesville) was placed in the 5th District of Louis F. Payne, Jr., most of his district was placed in the 10th District of Frank Wolf. Allen moved to Mount Vernon and prepared to challenge Wolf in a primary, but Virginia Republican figures made it known that he would have no future in the party by waging such a challenge. Allen was therefore forced to leave the House in 1993.




In 1993 Allen was elected the 67th Governor of Virginia, serving from 1994 to 1998. As governor, he was recognized for educational reforms such as the implementation of rigorous academic standards and accountability. His tenure also included the overhaul of the juvenile justice system, moves toward the elimination of state welfare programs and the abolition of parole. Virginia, especially Northern Virginia, boomed during this time period, particularly in the technology area.

As governor Allen had a stormy relationship with African-American voters in Virginia, many of whom criticized his policies and his embrace of the Confederate flag, which the NAACP condemned as a symbol of racism and hate. As a lawyer, Allen also had a noose hanging from a ficus tree in his office, a decoration critics have charged was racially insensitive, but which Allen has explained as a symbol of his tough stance on law-and-order issues.

In 1995, 1996, and 1997, Allen proclaimed April as Confederate History and Heritage Month and called the Civil War "a four-year struggle for independence and sovereign rights." <3> The proclamation did not mention slavery and was subsequently repudiated by Allen's Republican successor, Governor James Gilmore.

Allen could not run for re-election because Virginia's constitution does not allow a governor to succeed himself; as of 2006 Virginia is the only state that has such a provision. <4>

http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:gSzQlavb1M4J:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Felix_Allen+George+Allen%27s+Mother+is+French&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 07:10 PM
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1. Odd....that such a nice "mix" in the mother would produce
THAT SON! :rofl:
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 07:18 PM
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2. So Daddy was of NFL ancestry? What's with that?
Edited on Wed Aug-16-06 07:33 PM by Lastlaughin08
Is that a the name of an old-world country? Guess he had no ancestors anywhere.

Mommy was a Jew.
Dad was an NFL.
Felix is a bigoted asshole.

How touching.
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abluelady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 07:26 PM
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3. So George Felix Allen is a Jew!
Wonder if that will hurt or help him?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 07:57 PM
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5. I don't think he took his mother's faith, though. He's supported by
Christian Fundies who would support the "KKK" if it was revived and went around Virginia waving Confederate Flags and Burning Crosses.

I think Allen is one of the "alliances of the New Left" with "Opus Dei."

So, you've got that amazing "Triangle" of Christian Fundies, Zionist Jews and Right Wing Opus Dei Catholics.

Hey...what the hell do I know I'm an EPISCOPALIAN...a dying Protestant Sect!
:eyes:
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abluelady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 08:14 PM
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7. But According to Judaism, he is a Jew
and if Hitler were around, Felix would be in a camp, regardless of what Felix thinks and believes! I find it ironic with his background he could be such a racist. Is his mother still alive? I wonder.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 09:08 PM
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9. Someone point to the rpukes that he is a JEW!
By Judaism law, a child born from the mother takes the faith of the mother. So therefore, Allen is a Jew!

(disclaimer I'm Jewish too)
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 09:35 PM
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11. I don't think his mother being Jewish is the issue but where she came
from and what she might have grown up with might be words she passed along to her children as mothers do. It might be that when and where she grew up that word was normal to describe folks of a different color. Just like for some folks in the South certain words that make us cringe because of the horrible racist overtones might have been in common use at the time.

The Wikipedia entry has her as Jewish/Tunisian/French. But if as some folks say that she was Jewish makes Allen Jewish, too...then he should be very proud of his heritage and not pretending he's a "Good Old Boy Virginian" when he comes from CA and his mother is "French Fry French/Tunisian and Jewish" and not some "Good Old Girl" from VA who went to Hollins College or worked in the Tobacco Warehouse. :shrug:
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 07:29 PM
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4. Yes, he might.
If his mother taught it to him, or her friends used it around him.

I know my mother never called me a paddy, my Polish friends' parents didn't call them polaks, my Italian friends' parents didn't call their kids wops, and my Jewish friends' parents weren't keen on calling their kids kykes. Never heard a Latino call his kid a beaner or wetback.

N****r I seem to hear black people say, usually as an insult. And frequently far too loud and too often; I'm waiting for my blond-haired/blue-eyed son to pick it up from hearing it so often, and having to explain why he can't say it when so many people around him do. I fully expect him to say it in public at a store frequented by a large number of blacks. That'll be an interesting day.

So it's possible that Allen's mother or friends called him macaque, or a macaque. I don't buy his explanation, but neither do I consider the assumption that he must have known it to be well founded enough to assume he meant it badly. Nor is it worth fretting over, since I don't live in Virginia.

(Now, having read a fair amount of French, I must say that I never heard that word used in that manner--although I knew the usual referent for macaque. Maybe it's something that never makes it into print, or only in quoted conversation in a N. African setting. But thanks to the attention at DU, I'm now familiar with yet another racial epithet.)
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 08:07 PM
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6. Growing up in Pre-Civil Rights South ...I heard alot of derogatory words
Edited on Wed Aug-16-06 08:21 PM by KoKo01
about African-Americans that I wouldn't repeat here on DU or amongst "civilized friends" but it doesn't mean that I don't know what those words mean and if I was a "RW'er" and running in a political campaign as a "RW'inger" that I wouldn't use them to get a VOTE in BUSH AMERICA! I'm NOT a RW'inger and abhor those words...so I wouldn't stoop to using them.

But, I have a Jewish Sister-in-Law who got reparations from German Government because her family was wealthy and most died in a concentration camp. She was a child who survived. She was the most vicious mouth when it came to trashing African-Americans I ever knew..and she was rescued and brought to New York State and is an artist who got a painting about the Holocaust in the NY Museum of Art! Her mouth was foul and she was totally racist and my brother-in-law of Irish decent eventually had to divorce her because she became "unhinged" in her support of Reagan. She hated everyone because of her experience in Germany and her families loss of everything including their social status.

Now...he didn't divorce her because he was Second Generation Irish..(it never entered his mind)...but, I'm trying to point out that where one comes from isn't always ethnic but the "slurs one grows up with do last into another generation" if one considers oneself "entitled" as my Sister-in-law" seemed to feel herself. She was bitter because of what had happened to her family under the Nazi's but instead of fighting against any Nazi/Fascist behavior in her new country...she became embittered and angry thinking that somehow Americans were beneath her and that her family had suffered because they were Jews but that Americans had helped her family lose all their money, art works and antiques.

Who is to say where folks come down on issues? It isn't always as simple as we would think...At least that's what I've learned in my time here on earth.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 08:52 PM
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8. More on the subject, (I think " may" is too nice - He certainly knew
Edited on Wed Aug-16-06 09:02 PM by Mass
what it meant)

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/009422.php

(It is however the fisrt time I see that Allen's mother is Jewish - Do we have another source for that?).
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 09:16 PM
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10. Here's info from link from Wikipedia on "Lumbroso" family/Tunisia
Lombroso, Lumbroso is the Sephardic family, members of which lived in Tunis, Marseilles, and Italy. The two forms of the family name are doubtless due to different readings of the Hebrew "לומברוזו".

Place names

* Casal Lumbroso, Rome

Tunisian Lumbroso

* Baron Abram Lumbroso (Abram Lumbroso) (1813, Tunis - 1887, Florence): Tunisian physician and scientist
* David Lumbroso (1817, Tunis - 1880, Leghorn): Tunisian political agent
* Giacomo Lumbroso: Brother of Abram Lumbroso; head of a prominent business house at Marseilles, where he was consul for Tunis till the latter came under the protectorate of France
* Baron Giacomo Lumbroso (Giacomo Lumbroso): Son of Abram Lumbroso
* Giacomo Lumbroso (born 1859, Leghorn): Italian physician
* Isaac Lumbroso (?-1752): Chief rabbi of Tunis and rabbinical author
* Isaac Vita Lumbroso (1793, Tunis - 1871, Leghorn): Father of Abram Lumbroso
* Jacob Lombroso: Italian rabbi and physician, of Spanish origin; lived at the beginning of the 17th century in Venice

Italian Lombroso and Lumbroso

* Cesare Lombroso (1836-1909): On his father's side he was descended from a family which for many generations had been rich in rabbis and Hebraists.
* Daniela Lumbroso (born 1961, Tunis), Tunisian-French TV & radio presenter, see French article
* Dino Lumbroso
* Hubert Lumbroso
* Marc Lumbroso

Contents


* 1 Lumbrozo
* 2 Table of pedigree
* 3 External links
* 4 References



Lumbrozo

* Mocatta, Lumbrozo de Mattos Mocatta and Lumbroso de Mattos Mocatta, distinguished ancient Anglo-Jewish family
o Abraham Lumbrozo de Mattos, see London page of Jewish Encyclopedia.

* Dr. Jacob Lumbrozo, Portuguese traveller, first Jew to permanently settle in the New World, see List of people from Maryland, Jewish history in Colonial America



Table of pedigree

* Isaac Lumbroso (?-1752): Chief rabbi of Tunis and rabbinical author

* Isaac Vita Lumbroso (1793, Tunis - 1871, Leghorn): Father of Abram Lumbroso
o Baron Abram Lumbroso (Abram Lumbroso) (1813, Tunis - 1887, Florence): Tunisian physician and scientist
+ Baron Giacomo Lumbroso (Giacomo Lumbroso): Son of Abram Lumbroso
o Giacomo Lumbroso: Brother of Abram Lumbroso; head of a prominent business house at Marseilles, where he was consul for Tunis till the latter came under the protectorate of France

* David Lumbroso (1817, Tunis - 1880, Leghorn): Tunisian political agent
* Giacomo Lumbroso (born 1859, Leghorn): Italian physician



External links

* <1>



References

This article incorporates text from the 1901–1906 Jewish Encyclopedia, a publication now in the public domain.
This biographical article, about a person notable in connection with Judaism, is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it.

This human name article is a disambiguation page – a list of pages that might otherwise share the same title, which is a person's or persons' name. If an article link referred you here, you might want to go back and fix it to point directly to the intended page.
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lombroso"

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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 09:52 PM
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13. I read that, but I know Lumbrosos who are not Jewish as well.
(it is a relatively common name in Italy and France) This is why I asked the question (not that it is important anyway).
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 10:11 PM
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15. Maybe a reporter could find out whether she converted to something else
and that Wickipedia is wrong. Maybe her mother was Irish and she's Catholic but her father was Jewish. Who knows. But, that he doesn't talk about his "foreign born" mother is something that the RW would go into if it was a Dem running who called someone "Maccaca."

:shrug:
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Superman Returns Donating Member (804 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 09:52 PM
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12. question
why are people so excited that he is of Jewish heritage like its a bad thing? Is it the fact that he tries to act like the confederacy's favorite yet is of Jewish and French blood? If its anything other than that, it sounds real bad.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 10:02 PM
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14. Yes...he pretends to be something he is NOT. When Don Imus still
Edited on Wed Aug-16-06 10:09 PM by KoKo01
carries on about "Freedom Fries" and the CNBC "Squak Box" guru Joe Kernen still goes on about "Freedom Fries" (how many years after Iraq Invasion?) then we know that being French is still a boxing ball for the RW'ers. That his mother is "foreign born" and Tunisian French and Jewish and George is running out there wrapped in Confederate Flag (he wore one as a lapel pin at one time) calling people of color "Maccaca" then there is a problem with that guy.

Also a DU'er went to high school with him in CA and she can attest to the fact he was a racist and had some weird friends in the "Falcon Club" who got into an incident painting the school with some racist stuff as a "prank." The DU'er posted in a thread on Allen earlier today...but has posted in the past about her experiences with him.

He pretends to be something he is NOT...and that's important in these times, is it not?

If his mother is Jewish then he is Jewish (as some DU'ers above thread pointed out). Why does he hide this? He prefers to talk about his father's fame and not who his mother is? Is he afraid of being called "Freedom Fry" Allen? That's what Coulter would call a Dem who was running who had the same background that Allen does.. Wouldn't she? Would Rove go after him?
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 07:24 PM
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16. I'm that DUer who went to school with him.
What makes the "macaca" incident doubly offensive is that he belittles the dark-sinned person as "macaca" telling him, "Welcome to America" knowing full well his mother is an immigrant whose family fled the Nazis according to what I've read. You'd think given his background, he'd be more sensitive on issues of race and ethnicity, but no. He's an asshole and a lifelong racist.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 07:39 PM
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17. Like most Repugs...he can't learn he's as John Dean says:
Edited on Fri Aug-18-06 07:40 PM by KoKo01
"an Authoritarian." There's no way he can be reached. He's a "cool kid" a fratboy racist like the "Chimp" who squats in our White House.

Allen knew he'd get a "buzz" for his RW antics and racism if he yelled "Maccaca" out twice in that crowd. The crowd he was speaking to was the same as if they were early 20th Century "KKK'ers" and most of America doesn't seem to remember what the KKK was and if they did them might be trying to emulate them in Halloween Costumes all over Virginia.

It's shocking how short our memories are...but it's the MEDIA that has caused this "Dumbing Down" robbing us of history and ability to reflect and connect dots and have "follow up" of news stories that will impact our lives for decades down the road.
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FUGW Donating Member (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 07:56 PM
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18. A noose is his idea of a law and order symbol?
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