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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 04:29 PM
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Wine improves with age. Old bullshit just stinks
I tend to have the teevee on non-stop since I work from home and the cable channels are pretty much like listening to the radio. I tend to stay with MSNBC. That's background .....

Each day, as I listen to the right wing bleaters, I'm pretty much hearing the same old bullshit .... over and over and over.

Is the Heritage Foundation on a month's vacation? Do they have a new team of swill writers?

What's up? The volume is the same, but the tone's not. Its weary and weak. The right wing nutjob punditocracy seems like they're just phoning it in.

And at least on MSNBC - I **swear** its true - I'm hearing more two sided arguments. And we're winning more than a few.

I guess when one spews what one **knows** are lies and falacious arguments over and over and over again, no matter what one believes, the stink just gets to be too much.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 04:36 PM
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1. "Good" wine improves with age these guys
Age like milk.

The expiration date is long expired, the milk has turned sour, rancid and has lost it's flavor and substance

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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 04:44 PM
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2. dams and fat ladies ... it's all in here ...
Edited on Tue Aug-15-06 04:45 PM by welshTerrier2
you know how bush keeps talking about "standing up to the terrorists" ... and how he keeps explaining that they will only relent if we show them we will not back down ... well, yeah, it's macho talk ... and, yeah, it's designed to sell the "tough guy" image to Americans ...

but take it another step ...

what does that tell you about how bush, and rove, see their enemies ... they weren't just telling you about standing up to al Qaeda and making them back down ... i think since 2001, that's exactly how they see their dominance over Democrats ... they got tough; the Dems backed down ... it was classic bullying ...

but things have surely changed now ... probably more emboldened by public opinion polls than their own internal fortitude, i'm sorry to say, the Dems are now doing much better ... bush is being challenged on most of the "DU agenda" ... he's even getting called out now for trying to hype his role in the latest terrorist incident ...

he can't even get away unscathed with his little rovian PR gimmicks ...

and they know it ... the polls get worse everyday; events that are driving the polls are getting worse everyday; and the PR falls flat on its face ... when bush can't sell fear, the fat lady starts singin' ...

and remember this, when the big fascade goes down, it doesn't just crack; it shatters ... it's sort of like that leaky dam business ... everyday, there's another leak ... when the dam bursts, there will be no repairing it ...

it must be hell to get out of bed and have to keep going knowing there's just no more tricks in rove's bag ... and election fraud? it's getting more and more dangerous to think about trying it ... the risks of getting caught are getting higher everyday ...
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 04:51 PM
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3. "..... more and more dangerous to think about trying it ..."
I think you're spot on in that last statement.

Might they try it again this go-round? Probably. But this is going to be oh so different. They have to steal waaaaaay more than a few precints in a close state. The risks are much higher, the opposition much smarter, and the spotlight is on them.

All too ofetn I think we cry 'foul' about the vote system, but inmany ways its now becoming our easy cop out. No, I don't think it is a non issue. I just don't think machine vote fraud, specifically, is quite the demon we sometimes make it out to be. I will quickly add, however, that vote fraud more globally is very possible. But think about ti .... if we just keep our eye on machnes, we miss the disenfranchisement and the roll purges and the disinforamtin and the intimidation and the lack of polling machines .... etc. etc. etc.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 05:10 PM
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4. 2-sided arguments would be a nice change
but on the wine thing:

Although all wines change with age, very few wines noticeably improve beyond a few months and wine maturity does have its limits. There are three interdependent factors that determine whether or not aging will increase enjoyment of a wine. First, the particular wine must have the intrinsic chemistry capable of aging/improving. Second, the storage conditions must be constant and correct: temperate, humid, dark and solid. Third, some investment of both time and capital is needed to monitor the aging progress, so as to know when the wine is ready, has reached its peak, and begun to decline.
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If you taste a wine that you like, by all means, buy a few bottles, but no more than you'll probably drink within the next few months. And then drink 'em up; time's a-wastin'. It is much less of a tragedy to drink a wine too young than too old.



http://www.winepros.org/aftertaste/3-myths.htm
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