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BobcatJH Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 12:14 PM
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A nation of George Allens
Hey, everyone, did you hear? A Republican put his foot in his mouth, coming out of the closet as the racist most had suspected him to be. He knowingly ridiculed someone's ethnicity and did so to the pleasure of his monochromatic audience. Then, in true Republican fashion, both he and his people tried to extract themselves from the embarrassment of his own creation. And, though his ham-fisted excuses and half-hearted apologies centered around his ignorance, reality would indicate otherwise. The racism was raw, captured on tape, there for all to see. But what will come of it?

Sure, George Allen drew attention to his tight senate race for all the wrong reasons, but his actions only represent the latest in a long line of examples of life in Republican America. The America that, thanks to President Bush, his party and their post-September 11 stewardship, has allowed racism to not only fester, but also to prosper. What once got you branded as an extremist now earns you elected office. What once was whispered in smokey backrooms and private living rooms now gets shouted for thousands to hear. A nation above which the Stars & Stripes once flew now appears to be living under the Stars & Bars.

Think of the hostile environment this president has helped foment. Since September 11, America's de facto enemies have been Muslims. And when people from the president* on down refer to our so-called adversaries as "Islamic fascists" long enough, the results are obvious. A recent Gallup poll indicates that those of the Muslim faith in America have yet to see the worst of things. Nearly a quarter of those in this country (22 percent) would prefer not to have a Muslim as a neighbor. What's more, 34 percent think Muslims living in the United States are supportive of al Qaeda. Only 49 percent think them loyal to America. Four-in-ten consider their religious views too "extreme", while 39 percent admit to harboring a prejudice against Muslims. And, as evidence in our continued slide toward a very dark future, that same number - 39 percent - suggest that Muslims in America carry special identification.

As the rhetoric coming from the Republican Party and its surrogates intensifies, so, too, does the dangerous atmosphere in America for minorities, especially Muslims. Take, for instance, the recent incident in Maryland, where a man protested in front of the house of a Muslim candidate for the state's House of Delegates. The man, Timothy Truett, "sat in a folding chair Saturday on the cul-de-sac outside Saqib Ali's home in Gaithersburg with a sign reading 'Islam sucks,' and a shirt with the slogan, 'This mind is an Allah-free zone.'" Later, Truett referred to his actions as "an experiment". "I had heard that Muslims were generally intolerant of views other than their own," he said, "and so I thought I would put it to the test." I wonder where Truett would have heard such a thing? From which group of people, I wonder, would such a thought come? Hmm ...

Perhaps it was from Ann Coulter, who has referred to Muslims as "ragheads" and once said, "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity." Perhaps it was from Glenn Beck, who, on his television show, asked, "Why did God put all of the oil under dirtbag countries?" Perhaps it was from Neal Boortz, who said Islam was a "religion of vicious, violent, bloodthirsty cretins" and called Muhammad a "phony rag-picker". Perhaps it was from Bo Dietl who said, on Fox, that Islam "is a Johnny-come-lately religion" and that "I think we should reevaluate people who pray to someone who wants to kill you." Perhaps it was from Pat Robertson, who called Islam a "bloody, bloody, brutal type of religion". Perhaps it was from ... Get the picture? It appears a mindless dope like Truett did.

Here's the thing: Where does it stop? Seriously, not only would I like to know when will it stop, but I'd also like to know where does it stop? We already live in a country where you can call for someone's death without repercussions. We already live in a country where you can physically assault your intellectual adversaries without many people thinking twice. Sure, we find ourselves scolding Allen for his comments and those of other bigots like him. But how long until we find ourselves dealing with the consequences of living in an America shaped by the comments of Allen and the attitudes of so many others, all emboldened by this president? How long until something far more drastic happens? How long until the right-wing pundits of the world aren't excusing wrong-headed comments, but are instead excusing physical violence? Or murder? As a society, we've gotten very good at shifting the goalposts of what, in terms of such prejudice, we excuse. So do you want to know what, to me, was the worst aspect of Allen's Mel Gibson moment? Other, of course, than it happened in the first place? Or that people continue to vote for racist bozos like the senator? No, neither of those represented the most disappointing part of this whole affair. What was? That I wasn't surprised. At all. I'm sure you weren't, either. And that's sad.

* President Bush uses the phrase "Islamic fascists", yet he didn't know the difference between Sunnis and Shiites on the eve of the Iraq war.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 12:16 PM
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1. Sweet Nectar of Liberty!!!

http://www.conservative.org/pressroom/2006/speech_allen.asp
Senator George Allen (R-VA)
Conservative Political Action Conference
Washington, DC
February 9, 2006

Ladies and gentlemen. Patriots all! Good evening!

Allen Philosophy
As many of you know, I grew up in a coach’s family. As such, I was raised on the four Fs of Life: Faith, Family, Freedom and Football!

But I say, remember Ronald Reagan who changed all the dynamics of the Cold War, which went on for nearly fifty years. Reagan didn’t think you could appease, co-exist, and accommodate the Soviet Union. He changed the dynamics in favor of the advancement of freedom. And now, because of Ronald Reagan—along with Margaret Thatcher and Pope John Paul the Second—there are millions of people in Central and Eastern Europe who were locked behind that Iron Curtain, who are now tasting that sweet nectar of liberty, and they are our friends and allies. He persevered, and freedom prevailed.

PRESIDENT RONALD REAGAN'S 95TH BIRTHDAY
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/R?r109:FLD001:S50721
February 06, 2006
Today, because of Ronald Reagan, there are literally hundreds of millions of people who were once locked behind the Iron Curtain living in countries we now know as free countries--Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, former East Germany, Poland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, and added countries such as Ukraine and Georgia, which are now tasting that sweet nectar of liberty as opposed to being behind the Iron Curtain.




HONORING THE 94TH ANNIVERSARY OF PRESIDENT RONALD REAGAN'S BIRTH
http://www.washingtonwatchdog.org/environmental_justice/documents/cr/05/fe/03/cr03fe05-25.html
February 3, 2005

Today, thanks to Ronald Reagan, as I saw Ambassadors on
the House floor from Lithuania, from Romania, throughout Central
Europe--those were hundreds of millions of people who were behind the
Iron Curtain. But, thanks to Ronald Reagan's perseverance, for his
belief in the dignity of all human beings, that all people do yearn to
be free, to exercise their God-given rights, those people who were
behind that Iron Curtain, who were enemies, are now tasting that sweet
nectar of liberty.







Condi Rice’s confirmation hearing
1/19/05
http://allen.senate.gov/?c=story&t=press&story=2005011961776.859375


Because of President Reagan's steadfast determination, hundreds of millions of people tasting that sweet nectar of liberty in central Europe are now friends and allies," said Senator Allen.

On the 2004 election
10/10/2004
http://www.vote-smart.org/speech_detail.php?speech_id=69507
Ronald Reagan's election changed the dynamic of the Cold War from one of containment and co-existence to the advancement of freedom. As a result, hundreds of millions of people in Central Europe, once behind the Iron Curtain, now taste the sweet nectar of liberty, have joined NATO, and are true friends and allies.

Senator Allen's Tribute to President Reagan
June 8, 2004
http://www.nrsc.org/nrscweb/newsdesk/articles/401.shtml

But President Reagan believed the blessings of liberty must not be bestowed only on a few nations and only to those blessed to be born on free soil; Ronald Reagan, with the strength of his convictions, exported and advanced democracy to continents, countries, and people yearning to taste the sweet nectar of libert.



GOVERNOR ALLEN SELECTED AS "JEFFERSON SCHOLAR"
August 28, 1998
http://www.alec.org/viewpage.cfm?pgname=3.1aa56

He also pointed to North Korea, China, Iraq, Cuba and other countries where "there are people who have never truly tasted freedom's sweet nectar.






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mark11727 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 02:00 PM
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11. Gack.
Nectar --> Bee Poop --> Honey
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threadkillaz Donating Member (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 05:37 AM
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18. -> YEM -> TMWSIY -> BBFCFM
Ahh, the summer of '95.
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 12:19 PM
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2. What was Felix doing while his opponent was fighting in Vietnam?
Why, watching his dad butter up to Nixon, of course :eyes:

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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 12:42 PM
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4. Tooling around Palos Verdes Estates in his red mustang with
Edited on Tue Aug-15-06 12:43 PM by The_Casual_Observer
a confederate flag in place of the front license plate, talking shit about n**gers.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 12:55 PM
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6. The Casual Observer isn't kidding.
We both went to high school with Allen, and that's exactly what he was doing - oh, and spraypainting racist graffiti on the school walls in his spare time. Don't want to leave out what he is best remembered for.
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JRob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 08:36 AM
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20. At PVHS? For reals?
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 10:36 AM
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23. Yep, for real. Allen was in the class of '70 as was I.
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JRob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 11:13 AM
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29. '77 here
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 12:25 PM
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30. Small world.
Edited on Thu Aug-17-06 01:09 PM by LibDemAlways
The Allen family left the area in 71 when George Sr. became Head Coach of the Redskins, though they never sold their home. George's mother still lives there.

Another classmate contacted the school earlier this year to see if they had kept old Trident student newspapers from 1970 - looking for some reference to the graffiti incident that occurred that winter. Allen and a buddy spraypainted some racist stuff the week of a basketball playoff game against Morningside. He was caught and apologized over the PA. He was quite a colorful figure on campus. Had Confederate flag bumper stickers on his car and wore a Confederate flag lapel pin in his yearbook photo. Hardly typical in PV.

Anyhow, interestingly, the school has a complete bound set of the newspapers for all years except 67-70 - so, no public record of what happened. Allen admits to the graffiti but says it wasn't racist. It was.

In case you have any interest, the school now maintains an alumni mailing list and sends out occasional e-mail updates about the progress made since the re-opening a few years ago.
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JRob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 11:14 PM
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31. Thanks for the info... It's amazing that he's not been called out
as a pinko left-coaster. I guess the answer is that the deluted, die-hards of the right wing care nothing for facts anyway...

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 12:50 AM
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16. And now he pretends he's a southerner
As awful as the comment was, it was also dumbfouding to watch those people not only applaud the racist asshole but applaud sneers about the "outsider" Webb when Allen is from frickin' southern California!!! They're rejecting a military man who served under Reagan for a west coast nutball - that's how brainwashed they really are. :crazy:
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 10:40 AM
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24. They have no idea Allen isn't from Virginia - though
they ought to suspect it given his penchant for western cowboy attire. FAUX News certainly isn't going to tell them.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 12:39 PM
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3. Boy, I hope this idiot gives us the Virginia Senate seat!
Best case scenario, we need either this one or Tennessee to get a majority in the Senate.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 12:51 PM
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5. Sadly, I would be willing to bet that
Edited on Tue Aug-15-06 12:53 PM by LibDemAlways
this open display of racism actually earns him as many votes as it loses him. It will probably end up "no penalty on the down" as Allen would say in the football lingo he is so fond of.
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tomreedtoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 01:12 PM
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7. And what have our brave Democrats said about this?
Well, you know, they're kind of in the Congressional Club, and they don't really like criticizing their colleagues in public, and they don't mean to be rude, and...well, what the hell, let's go to the picture...



"Racism? What racism? Our beloved W doesn't promote racism!"

And you guys keep voting in the Pink Tutu Democrats because they're...well, they say they are...Democrats.
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RethugAssKicker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 01:23 PM
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8. Has the MSM picked up on it yet?... Or are they ignoring it?
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Nestor Mahkno Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 01:32 PM
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9. Doofus for America
Rarely have I seen someone who fits the description of doofus more than George Allen does. The problem is, is that this is just the type of ignoramus that Republicans like to foist upon the American voters in a kind of defiance against what they see as elitist Liberal intellectualism.:freak:
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BobcatJH Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 01:34 PM
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10. Ha ha ...
I thought you were making fun of the author's blog. :-)
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mark11727 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 02:02 PM
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12. Welcome to DU, Nestor !
:hi:
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 03:00 PM
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13. Welcome to DU. You're right. Republicans have the
market cornered on dumb guys named George who'd be greeting Wal-Mart customers if not for their famous fathers.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 12:26 AM
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14. And the funny thing about this is that I know for a fact
That he has blacks on his staff. I've met them personally. Since that I was on the job at the time, I didn't want to ask them HOW IN GOD'S NAME COULD THEY WORK OF GEORGE ALLEN? I mean, I didn't have to. The answer is simple and the same would be for gays who work for Santorum.... They're in for the money. Money trumps all to these fine young folks.

So just remember, behind every bonehead and nativistic, quasi-racist who blathering this crap is a fine staff of educated youngsters, including a future Ken Blackwell or two, who ready to take up the cause.

Don't think that they stand alone
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 02:17 AM
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17. he probably has Indian Americans either working or supporting him also
and as you say it's all about the money. they love being tokens sent out to defend the bigots. who cares how the majority of minorities are treated. they get theirs.

and check this out . while writing this post i did a search on the one indian american republican group that attacked Biden's stupid (though not demeaning) comments regarding Indian Americans. and no surprise, they defend the idiot Allen. i'm pretty sure these groups are created for the purposes of defending racist republicans anytime one of them lets their true feelings out. i wonder how much these people get paid to whore themselves like this.


<However, the Indian American Republican Council jumped to Allen's support, saying his Democratic political opponent Jim Webb was using an Indian volunteer in a "demeaning fashion" to garner support for his political campaign.

"We don't believe Senator George Allen was making a reference to the ethnicity of Jim Webb's campaign volunteer. He has apologised for any misunderstanding this statement has caused," IARC Chairman R Vijay said.

"We do know that Senator Allen has worked closely with Indian Americans when he was Governor and as US Senator, and he has always garnered strong support from the community. He has visited India and showed strong leadership in supporting the US-India civilian nuclear agreement," Vijay said in his statement. >


http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/001200608160910.htm
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Ninja Jordan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 12:29 AM
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15. Allen thinks he will run for president?
LOL!
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 06:35 AM
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19. God! Y'all are slow on the "Up take".... I have been posting this:
http://gotv.blogspot.com/2005/06/is-george-allen-racist.html

My post from yesterday.....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2780247&mesg_id=2780247

and other things for months now..... at least sidharth was a real virginian..... not a rebel flag wanna be.

When the webb campaign was out in Ca. "raising movie mongul money" he should have had his staff looking for people Allen went to high school with. It seems that calling a man a monkey was not his debute display of racism.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 11:06 AM
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25. At least the corporate media couldn't bury this because
the proof is in the widely viewed tape.

Ryan Lizza of the New Republic exposed Allen's racist past in a lenghty article back in April. DC insiders, no doubt, took note. He left out stuff he must know like the names of Allen's kids - Forrest, Tyler, and Brooke - because there is no way short of injecting Allen with truth serum that he'd ever admit they are named for his favorite Confederate heroes. If someone mentioned that Gen. Nathan Forrest was a KKK Grand Wizard who committed atrocities against black troops, Allen would tell you he'd never heard that - though he claims to be such a student of Confederate history that he's proudly proclaimed Confederate Heritage Month and displayed the stars and bars in his home.

He's a fraud, a phony, and a man obsessed with a period in this nation's history that represents hatred and bigotry. The 2500 or so of us students, teachers, and administrators back at Palos Verdes High in 1970 saw the writing on the wall - literally. I wrote about this many times on DU before this latest incident - and received some replies that no one should be judged by what they did in high school. Perhaps not. If Allen had moved on, changed his ways, worked for a more just society - the incident would be abberation. Instead, it was a prelude of things to come - nooses and flags and ethnic slurs and votes against MLK Day while honoring the Confederacy. The other day Allen inadvertently gave us a glimpse into his racist soul. It wasn't a pretty sight.
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JRob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 08:41 AM
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21. Nice piece, saw the video last night of the Daily Show
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 10:01 AM
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22. If Truett is an Allah Free zone, then he's an atheist.
Allah means God, you repuke!!
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 11:25 AM
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26. Pukes don't even try to hide it anymore.
Their racism is out there for the whole world to see, and they seem to be damn proud of it. It's sickening.

Have we fallen that low as a nation? Nevermind, stupid question.

Bake
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thoughttheater Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 12:41 PM
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27. Allen & Wadhams: Bully, Bully
The remarks made by Senator George Allen have all the makings of a Dick Wadhams campaign. Wadhams cut his political teeth in Colorado and has been seen as the person behind the rise of Senator Wayne Allard, a Colorado veterinarian. Wadhams went on to orchestrate the campaign against Tom Daschle in South Dakota and is now leading Allen's reelection effort.

Dick Wadhams is a man many have called Karl Rove's protégé. During Wadhams work in Colorado for Senator Wayne Allard's 2002 reelection, he gave one of the most acerbic victory speeches I have ever witnessed. While gloating at the defeat of Ted Strickland, his comments were vile and hateful. The man is Karl Rove absent a scintilla of decorum and decency...if you can imagine that! It appears that George Allen believes that two bullies are better than one.

Read full article here:

www.thoughttheater.com
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 08:29 PM
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28. Wow. I'm sorry I that I came to this so late!
But I'm glad I have this opportunity to give it a fat kick back to the top.
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