Lieberman Lt. attacks Lamont, Bernie Sanders, Sharpton, Kos

[RamboLiberal]

http://www.journalinquirer.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=17052200&BRD=985&PAG=461&dept_id=161556&rfi=6

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How could he expect to convince "moderate Democrats, Republicans, and most importantly, unaffiliated voters" that he "would be anything other than a rigid partisan rubber stamp in the Senate," the Lieberman spokesman asked, "when the only proof of his independence he can show is that he is slightly to the right of socialist Bernie Sanders on fiscal policy?"

"Why should anyone outside the Sharpton/Kos wing of the Democratic Party believe Ned Lamont will represent their views in Washington?" he added.

Gerstein had associated Lamont with three figures on the left: Sanders, the self-described socialist congressman from Vermont who caucuses with the House Democrats; the Rev. Al Sharpton, the New York civil rights advocate and former Democratic presidential candidate; and Markos Moulitsas Zuniga, founder of Daily Kos, one of the liberals' most popular political weblogs.

The Lieberman aide's e-mail came the same day the Waterbury Republican-American editorialized about "Ned's true colors," describing the candidate's great-grandfather, Thomas W. Lamont, as not only chairman of J.P. Morgan but "the sugar daddy for the American Communist Party," and his uncle, Corliss Lamont, as "an unapologetic Stalinist and atheist."

[Atman]

1. Well, the JE managed to advance the message well, too.

I'm sure Mr. Lieberman will appreciate.

[dolstein]

2. Excuse me, but how is this an attack?

Calling Bernie Sanders a socialist would only be an attack if it were untrue. But it's not. Sander IS a socialist. I'm sure he's not insulted if somebody calls him a socialist, and I don't see why his supporters should be insulted either.

And why should members of the Sharpton/Kos wing of the party be insulted by suggesting that Lamont will represent their views in Washington? After all, Kos and Sharpton are both active supporters of Lamont. How could they possibly consider than attack?

[JI7]

3. it's kind of like when Republicans attack Democrats as being anti war

the issue is not the term "anti war" itself, but what they mean by it and are trying to make people think. and that is that the Democrats will not defend them.

in this case with Lamont, it's trying to say he is more liberal than he really is and trying to keep people who WOULD agree with Lamont from voting for him.

[Eric J in MN]

4. Dan Gerstein is using Bernie Sanders as a menace, and you know it. NT.

NT

[msongs]

6. because its right wing doggie doo doo? ->

the guy is quoted as saying

"Why should anyone outside the Sharpton/Kos wing of the Democratic Party believe Ned Lamont will represent their views in Washington?" he added.

Now most people would think Lamont might represent that point of view... AND a whole lot of others.

And probably Joe Lieberman represents a few of the views of Kos and Sharpton. is that possible?

When he is not representing the official party line of the republican party.

Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm

[saltpoint]

10. The DEMOCRATIC candidate, Ned Lamont, defeated hapless Joe

in the primary.

Now Lieberman, who is not the Democratic nominee, has his lieutenant invoke controversial names to smear the DEMOCRAT in the race.

That's an attack from the oldest playbook there is, and it's desperate bile from Lieberman, who is not the DEMOCRATIC nominee.

[karynnj]

11. Don't be disengenuous

The point is not that Sharpton/Kos (who are rarely together on issues) would be insulted, but that he is positioning Lamont in the far left of the party - though there are many Senators he might be closer to - to make him less attractive to moderate Democrats. Just guessing but I think he might be closer to say Feingold - but Feingold, unlike Sharpton is scary. (In fact Lamont may be closer on issues to Gore or Kerry than Lieberman is - and they were the last 2 men selected by the party.)

As to mentioning his distant relatives, that is uncalled for even if true. (I don't know the truth.)

[saltpoint]

12. There you are again, karynnj, making good sense as usual.

Hope things are all good your way.

:dem:

:thumbsup:

:hi:

[Crunchy Frog]

14. What the hell does Bernie Sanders have to do with Lamont?

It's the same kind of thing as when the Pukes trot out Teddy Kennedy every time they want to bash a Democrat.

And their trying to smear Ned on the basis of what his great grandfather and his uncle ostensibly believed? Amazing that any DUer could find that acceptable.

As far as Sharpton and Kos being supporters of Lamont, hell of a lot better than what Lieberman has for supporters. Hannity and Coulter? :puke:

[dsc]

23. and bringing up the man's grandfather was being warm and fuzzy

I wonder if Lieberman has any relatives he would rather not discuss.

[TankLV]

31. ...or bush*...

...just sayin...

Once a NAZI, always a NAZI...

...just sayin...

[cali]

34. Let me make a prediction:

Bernie will win, and Lieberman will lose. In the end, that's all that counts.

[MADem]

5. Sharpton/Kos wing of the Democratic Party ??

Jeez, Al must be THRILLED!!! He's got a WING named after him...of course, he has to SHARE it, but still!!!

Gerstein needs to be advised that the story he's telling sounds a lot like Chicken Little. This whiny negativity can't be helping ole JoeMentum. It brings to mind the word QUERULOUS. And that ain't a good thing for a senator to be...

[Zorra]

7. Wow, who writes this stuff? Oh, yeah, Karl Rove writes it. n/t

[saltpoint]

8. Wow. No wonder Joe lost the primary. He's surrounded by idiots.

[movonne]

9. My God, what has happen to this man...he has turned into a vicious

neo-con before our eyes...

[IChing]

16. Sorta of like this

[Old and In the Way]

13. Sounds like an Independent Republican speaking these words.

Certainly not a Independent Democrat. Actaully, forget the "Independent" Part...Joe is just a loser, dependent on the Republicans for his political survival. He's even reciting their playbook, just like a well trained sockpuppet.

[Crunchy Frog]

15. Every time I think I can't detest that man more.

He comes out with something like this. I'm getting to the point where I loathe him at the same level as any Bush functionary.

[nealmhughes]

17. Gee, I was kinda hoping that Bernie won and Ned got a rubber stamp from

him...

[dolstein]

18. The Lamonsters -- They can dish it out, but they can't take it

Let's see, it's ok for the Lamonsters to say that Lieberman is Satan's spawn. But it's not ok for Lieberman's team to point out that Lamont is only slightly to the right of Bernie Sanders. What a bunch of whiners.

[w13rd0]

20. Lamonsters?

Oh, that's almost as rich as Loserman.

And this is about the level of discourse. Name calling a 6th grader would be proud of. Lieberman was rejected by the primary voters of Conneticut, with a record turnout even. Must be an exceptionally humiliating end for a three-term senator to have to go grovelling to the other party to try to derail the will of the mainstream conneticut primary voters.

weep weep weep

[CTLawGuy]

28. he's a multimillionaire businessman

and yet he is only "slightly to the right of Bernie Sanders."

please.

Only the Republicans have so little shame as to call him a socialist with a straight face.

[JerseygirlCT]

30. Not when it's not true dolstein

Why is it the Lieberman people started off pointing out all the similarities in Lieberman and Lamont's positions -- excluding Iraq, and now are in such a hurry to say Lamont is a nutty radical leftie socialist commie pinko hippie freak?

[Solon]

32. Either support the Democratic candidate or get off the board...

Dolstein, you already have been called out on this.

[FrenchieCat]

19. If this is what an "Independent" Democrat sounds like,

I think they should join the Republican party.....cause it sounds the same to me! :shrug:

[izzie]

21. I do not get this guy at all. He did seem to leave his voters.

why would they vote for him if he wants wars and they do not. What could he be thinking? Sounds like Shay. I can only watch that guy for a short time as it always comes out he is right and you are wrong.

[cleveramerican]

22. he chose his positions......

thinking they would help him, but they ended up doing him in. Thats politics! I thought Joe would go out better than this.

[izzie]

25. So did I. No class at all.

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[no_hypocrisy]

24. Corlis Lamont. I met and knew him. A founder of the American Civil

Liberties Union and the American Humanist Association. Author. Humanitarian. Survived a one-on-one with Joe McCarthy who tried to jail Lamont for a variety of trumped-up charges.

Ned Lamont has reason to be quite proud of his family heritage.

Turn this angry insult about Corlis Lamont around: How about if the Lamont campaign made a scurriolous remark about Lieberman being Jewish and made a literary, yet antisemitic, allusion to Shylock in "Merchant of Venice"? Then it would be (justifiably) a low blow. Leave the atheism out of the argument, Joe.

[Vinca]

26. Anyone can criticize Bernie 24/7 from now until the election and

he's still guaranteed to win in Vermont. Tarrant's a joke.

[izzybeans]

27. Comparing a millionaire to socialist.

and The chairman of JP Morgan supports communists. Sheesh. Maybe so. So what? But it makes no sense.

http://www.corliss-lamont.org/ maybe its because uncle Corliss was a true (liber)tarian a (liber)al humanist that understood the root of both words. Just because Joe McCarthy called support for working people communism and traitorous back in the day I suppose makes this okay for Leiberman. I've lost all patience with this asshole. He's just another neo-mccarthyite.

[JerseygirlCT]

29. The Republican American is a total rag. I'm surprised anyone

would take anything they say seriously.

And suddenly his ancestors are how we're supposed to judge him? Wonder if Bush would like to go down that road?

[niyad]

33. didn't those same rw's get upset at mention of ahhhhnuld's family

background, insisting that was irrelevant?

[JerseygirlCT]

35. Yup.

And I'd say iffy Nazi history is a mite more serious than <horror!> a socialist or atheist in the family tree.

What a screwed around set of priorities it takes, huh?