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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 10:27 AM
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I'm really starting to feel it .... an upwelling of real anger and disgust
While the backwash have their ear plugs in deeper and while their cheering for the team seems louder, the average Dick and Jane out there on Main Street are pissed.

It could be said that all the talk of Democratic gains in November is the reult of a huge disinformation campaign to turn out the ignorant to vote once again for the Red team. For every gain for our side we see, there's a deafening roar of opposition talking points in the media. But think about it. Its all spin on the same basic point. The fact is, they got nuttin'.

The Brits bust open a supposed terrorist plot and instead of it playing well, they lose points. The airlines are in disarray and passengers are sanguine, but with their eyes rolling. As time goes by, they find they can't explain why there was a ban on carry on liquids only now. How long have they known liquids could be mixed into bombs?

Dick's and Jane's eyes roll faster.

Every poll we see shows movement in our favor. We haven't peaked early. We haven't even peaked.

Ned Lamont's being colored as the Al Qaeda candidate is seen for the bullshit that it is. The swiftboaters are reduced to going after a conservative, crusty, gruff, ex Marine who has **consistently** been the military's closest legislative friend.

A young black man is standing in Tennessee in the face of a Republican machine that, in years past, even voted against a native son, and he's not only holding his own, but some polls show him to be in the lead.

In Michigan, the hugely dissatisified fringe ultra right nutters tossed aside the incumbent moderate rubber stamper in favor of a true fringe candidate who favors the death penalty for gay people. Similarly, In Rhode Island, the established, liberal Republican is facing a challenge in the bluest state in America from not a more liberal Republican, but another fringe nutter.

The Senate's number three guy, the poster boy for the 'values' crowd, is now making speeches to cows in rural Pennsylvania, as his Democratic challenger is calmly keeping a substantial lead. In Pennsylvania's close in Philly suburbs, the Repub incumbents are shaky as a too-tall stack of fine china in an earthquake. Nearby in Connecticut, even that poster boy for moderation, Chris Shays, is looking less than rock solid. So are the other two incumbent Repub Nutmeggers.

In the southwest we see Jimmy Carter's kid still trailing, but now within single digits of first termer Ensign, a 'solid' back bench do-nothing rubber stamper.

Around the country, Democratic governors' mansions will be the norm.

The two top ratfuckers of the national elections both appear to be going down spectacularly. Kathy 'Boobs' Harris can't even hold onto staff, let alone Florida Republican voters. Kenny 'The Paper Isn't The Right Weight' Blackwell bleats his way ever lower in Ohio's polling for governor.

Look around. The whole trend is our way.

Dick and Jane Nonpartisan are pissed.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 10:29 AM
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1. Imus says...

Ford's a lock in Tennessee.
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 10:30 AM
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2. I hope he is right...
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 12:07 PM
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34. I hope so.
I will say that people are wondering where the hell Bob Corker is.

It's nearly two weeks since the primary and I've seen not one ad for the man. Ford keeps asking him to debate and he never responds. Heck, the other day, after the British "terrorism" plot was thwarted, the local radio station, which leans to the right of Hitler, put out calls to both Ford and Corker to get their opinions on the issue and only Ford called back in.

If Corker thinks he's got the election locked up because Tennessee voted for the Red Team in 1994, he's badly mistaken. It still voted for the Blue Team when Clinton ran and for the Blue Team for governor. It's not a lock for the Reds at all!
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 04:00 PM
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44. Well, then, SHHHHH! Don't anybody tell him, okay? Let this Corker
Edited on Mon Aug-14-06 04:00 PM by calimary
guy keep on thinking he's got it locked. We WANT them complacent. Like the lazy, cocky grasshopper who laughs at the busy ants working doggedly all summer. Until the cold weather sets in and they're in good shape - and he's - well - NOT.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 07:43 PM
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48. Why do you hate grasshoppers??
:rofl:

We Dems *can't* be complacent.. there's that little bizzness about the voting machines... :nuke:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 10:32 AM
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3. Recommended.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 10:33 AM
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4. re: 'really starting to feel it: an upwelling of real anger and disgust'
me too, but that's all eminating from ME!

I hope it is also swirling around me, but my own loud disgust makes it hard to hear that from outside!
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mindfulNJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 10:36 AM
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5. Thank you for that...
but it'll go our way if the voting process is clean...and that's a big "if".
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 10:38 AM
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6. And so am I! (Pissed that is) Thanks for the encouraging rant. n/t
:toast:
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 10:41 AM
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7. You could add
that in Kansas the former head of the state GOP is now on the ballot with our popular incumbent Democratic Governor Kathleen Sebelius for the Lt. Gov. slot.

Paul Morrison, who was elected DA of Johnson County, KS, is running for Attorney General as a Democrat.

Cindy Neighbor, who was elected as a Republican to the Kansas State House in 2002, defeated in the Republican Primary by a right-winger (and no Dem ran in that race, alas!) is now running for that seat as a Democrat.

At least two other former Republicans are running for office as Democrats this year.

And in the all-important school board race, two moderate Republicans defeated two anti-evolution incumbents, guaranteeing that the board will be dominated by moderates after November. And there's at least one other school board seat held by a creationist that's being challenged by a Democrat.

All this is good news. But on the other hand, I heard this morning on NPR that Bush's approval rating for handling terror is above 50%. So more than half of those out there still don't get it about what a terrible job he's done since January 20, 2001.

DO NOT for one minute take for granted that we will take back the House or the Senate. Assume the worst, and support Democrats wherever possible with money, volunteer time, whatever you can afford or have the time to do.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 10:45 AM
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8. Mr. Husb2Sparkly, you just made my day. I love the line about Santorum
"making speeches to cows"! My wife read it and we are still laughing.
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Red Knight Donating Member (346 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 02:58 PM
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42. Even the cows were "mooing" him.
Okay, sorry about that.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 10:49 AM
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9. Excellent post. Well taken, with great illustration. 5th rec.
I think you're right about this!

If there's another stolen election, you'll see thousands of soccer moms climbing over the White House gates. Unstoppable.

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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 11:22 AM
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20. Well, all those soccer moms who were frightened into voting tor
* and the cabal are now looking at their then 14 year olds turning 18, and getting harrassed by recruiters. Kinda changes the perspective.

When I turned 10, in '63, my mother was glad I was too young to worry about Vietnam. Eight years later, she cried when i registered for the draft because the war was still going on.

People are starting to believe it when they talk about the 'long war' now.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 11:51 AM
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28. I registered in '74 - last year of The Draft. Missed the Nam War.
I really like the fact the author points out that the majority of the Blogosphere aren't kids. Most of us here at DU are in our 40s and 50s. That makes us Establishment Age. Maybe we should start acting as one - Just Take Power! :kick:
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 10:50 AM
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10. poll: 19% who backed bush will now vote for Dems
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 11:01 AM
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12. Just more evidence .........
Dick and Jane are hugely PISSED

That 19% is no small number.
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 11:42 AM
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25. no small number ...
and, as i frequently need to explain to some of DU's "i hate Greens people", because that 19% came from people who voted republican before (as opposed to people who never voted before), the net change is really 38%, not 19% ... the republicans lose 19% and in addition to that we gain 19% ...

that's a huge swing ...

btw, and not to be the wet blanket here, but i am concerned about some late polling i've seen ... some have moved RI back to a "toss up" status and the most recent poll i saw showed Ensign with a 20+% lead ... not so sure that single digit poll is still accurate ...

but, as we've discussed before, i think this is not just about "little numbers" like polls ... it's like measuring how many drops are trickling through the dam ... the measurements we're getting right now are meaningless if the whole dam gives way ... the bigger picture is the potential for a major flood ...

and on that score, i think things are looking good ... i see no way for people to find good things with our current one-party rule ... bush has finally sealed his own fate and dragged his party down with him ... man the lifeboats ...
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 12:06 PM
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33. NV and the USA needs Ensign OUT and JACK CARTER in!!
If you can spare a dime or two:

http://www.carterfornevada.com/
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 12:42 PM
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38. Actually, not 38%:
19% of Pukes is 19% of about 48% (the percentage who actually voted for Bush, as opposed to those claimed). In other words, about 9.5%. Then you can double it (for the +9.5/-9.5 factor) and get back to 19%. Still very substantial!
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 12:50 PM
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39. i'm listening but i'm not understanding ...
i can't see where you're getting the 48% ... are you maintaining that the AP poll (that's where the data came from) is wrong when it says that 19% who voted for bush will vote for Democrats? are you saying it's wrong because some of those people lied about whom they voted for?
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 10:52 AM
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11. THANK YOU for reminding us that positive things ARE happening, and
that we need to focus on those, and let the re nutters go to. . . .
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 11:13 AM
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13. the trend may be our way, but the results will be determined . . .
by who controls the voting process and, more importantly, who counts the votes . . .

that's them, not us . . .

I still can't fathom why the Democratic Party has not made election fraud (in all its incarnations) THE central issue of their pr agenda . . . it seems that most either don't believe there's a problem, or believe it and don't care . . .

either way, we're screwed . . .
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 11:16 AM
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15. Awwwk Awwwk Awwwwk .... wrong answer
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2778623

Has vote fraud likely happened? Yes.

But your answer may well be a cop out. Not dissing or flaming, just presenting an alternate view.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 11:51 AM
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29. Oh really! Vote fraud means what? Nothing?


Election day fraud has to be on the list.

And the issue has to be addressed. And there has to be away to redress rthe complaints of those who are intimidated, those who are denied voting machines and those who are in the know about the electronic voting

(In the June elections, election machinery just did not show up in one district...)
It's not just the machinery - it's that the Repukes are holding on to the central positions in the majority of places related to the election arena: You got it -- Registrar of Voters. County after County in CAlifornia has "independent" registrars all fo whom say "If you question the processs then you are questioning me, a servant of the people. And how could you not think I am honest..."

here in Marin, the "independent" registrar Michael J Smith, trumpets his homesty and wonderfulness, but has kept on the payroll for YEARS a woman who intimidates voters in black neighborhoods.

And there is nothing anyone can do about it - BECAUSE GET THIS! To file a complaint against felonious activity on the part of this individual, one must contact the Federal Government, and the Feds shove that responsiblity off on the FBI and the San Francisco branch of the FBI won't beother to file a complaint.

You can believe in Tinkerbelle, Fellow DU'ers but believing won't make it so.

Each and every person concerned about getting the country out of the control of the Repukes MUST get involved with the voting integrity issue. Find out locally what organizations are there for you in your County or statewide. Join that organizsation and be willing to sit inside the Registrar of Voters (ROV) office come leection night (By the way, it is illegal for the ROV to deny you a ringside seat.)
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 12:02 PM
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32. Fell better after that rant?
I hope so.

Nowhere am I saying that voting issues are fantasy. I believe it happened as much as you do. But it isn't the only thing we face and to cite that and see nothng positive is EXACTLY what the other side would want.

Do we need to do something about it? Yes.

Should we just rant about it and go home and pout? I sur6e hope not.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 03:42 PM
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43. Just rant??
The voting tactics and the voting machinery and the voting corruption -- they may well be the only thing that we face.

Sixty-four per cent of Americans are displeased with the President, and I imagine
many are displeased with the standard GOP. And if they successfully stole the Presidency in '00 and '04, why would they decide that doing that for this major election in '06 is too much work? The pieces are all in place - why wouldn't they put their system of stealing elections into place when it matters so much in Nov 2006.

I may rant but I do a lot besides. I am part of two different voting rights organizations. I was one of the first journalists to:

1) Look into the voting machinery situation (Spring 2004 meeting with Bev Harris at the hearings in Sacramento) Article that resulted still archived at www.coastalpost.com

2) To write about the election day malfeasance - articles Nov 04 Dec 04 Jan 05 Archived at www.coastalpost.com

3) To take on the politics here in Marin County California (when every one else was saying what a nice sweet man the Registrar of Voters here was, me and my dog Toto kept pointing to the character behind the curtain... It has taken twelve months, but most of the voting activists I know in Marin are now aware that just because a political character acts nicely, speaks nicely and pretends to do nicely, doesn't mean that they are not the most corrupt SUM bitch in the valley...)

There are still a lot of things to do. My sleeves are rolled up. My pencil is sharpened.

Carol

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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 08:03 PM
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49. you are so right
:applause: truedelphi

They WILL try to steal it again...because in so many places, it's so easy.

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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 11:53 AM
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31. I'm with you all the way - You understand the Registrar of Voters talks wi
Please see my response to below...
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 11:16 AM
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14. Yeah, but they still own the ballot boxes
so no worry.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 11:18 AM
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16. Awwwk Awwwwk Awwwk .... wrong answer.
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 11:20 AM
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17. I never underestimate the power of ignorant people
As long as Democrats allow the Republicans to define the center, we will continue to see the same fiasco as in 2000 and 2004. There are some things that have broken but if it's in the direction of the Democrats that remains to be seen in the results.

We have an atmosphere in this country where you get away with saying a lot more as a conservative than you do as a liberal. That poses a major problem.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 11:22 AM
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19. Yassee ... *that* is exactly what's NOT working so well anymore
They are doing as Republicans have ALWAYS done ..... over reach.
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 11:31 AM
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22. Wait till the media re enforces
everything the Republicans say and report it as "news". That's already beginning to happen.

Many on this board fall for it as well.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 11:34 AM
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24. People's bullshit filters are working overtime .....
..... some of it will fly, but most will just increase the rotational rate of Dick and Jane's eyes.

They ALWAYS overreach. That's what dogmatic non-thinkers do.
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 11:48 AM
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27. I'm not that optimistic
I don't like the direction the debate has gone. From Democrats and Republicans. It's going to come down to who the crazier son of bitch is in out foreign policy. Both parties are going to advocate keeping military spending through the roof while tons of people suffer in their everyday lives.

As long as the Republicans are able to define the center and the media goes along with it, change will be stifled. Dick and Jane still have a problem in believing everything they see in print as being true. As long as they see it in "black and white print" they will go along. Afterall, the bulk of people are conditioned to see things that way.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 12:12 PM
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36. So right. Just look at this latest terror attack that didn't quite happen
People are still scared, still buying the terra terra, even here.

If they have the cover that something that this provides, they can get away with massive fraud, particularly when the mechanisms to expose the fraud are undercut by the anti-terra legislation.

They will have to work harder at it to make it fly, but as their alternative is losing control, then jail, they will do anything they think necessary. I'm prepared to help the GOTV, to knock on doors (but not work the phones - I'm extremely phobic about phones), but in the end the issue is, how determined will we be in fighting the fraud?
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 12:27 PM
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37. Who says they're buying it?
Of **COURSE** the media's pushing it. But who say's anyone's buying it? Are some? Probably. Most? I dunno.
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 12:51 PM
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40. The common mistake made
by Democrats is that when they know something, they assume everyone else knows it as well. It's like the teacher who's been at his job too long and makes assumptions regarding what his kids "should know". There are definite reasons why certain conepts are not grasped.

I'd say the bulk of the citizens in this country don't see the media as skewing rightward. There is still a great deal of Americans that don;t vote or take and interesting this stuff. Many voters are just casual observers.

There is much to right wing mantra that makes it difficult for liberals to break through the ice. Take poor people for example. Poverty in this country is seen as a sin and being poor often reflects on the individual as being "lazy". Poor people are often taught to blame themselves and often blame others of their ilk for their poverty. Right Wingers with their media machine have done an outstanding job of pushing capitalism as an egalitarian system that just requires you to work hard in order to get ahead. Class conciousness is demonized as Class Warfare even thought it's the uppercrust that has declared it.

It's increasingly difficult to work on that front when the right trys to paint capitalism as this egalitiarian system. The same can be said of terrorism when "weak on terrorism" is viewed as anything that doesnt include bombs. Even to say that the War on Terror is a ridiculous idea.


There is a long way to go.
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 11:21 AM
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18. blackwell is not on top? please tell me he's losing his grip! eom
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 11:27 AM
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21. When one googles "strickland blackwell poll" this came up first .....
More take-aways:


* Strickland had led by 16, today leads by 22.

* Among males, Strickland had led by 4, now 15.

* Among younger voters, Blackwell had been tied, now trails by 35.

* Twenty-two percent of Republicans cross over to vote for Democrat Strickland; only 6% of Democrats crossover and vote for Republican Blackwell.

* Independents break 5:2 for Strickland.

* Conservatives vote overwhelmingly for Blackwell, but Strickland leads among moderates 7:2.

* Incumbent Republican Governor Bob Taft is term-limited. The seat is open. The election is in 13 weeks, on 11/7/2006.

http://wkyc.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=55366

Try the same google and see what else comes up! :hi:
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 11:31 AM
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23. Jimmy Carter's kid? Is Amy running for office?
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 11:52 AM
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30. No. His son Jack is.
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 02:31 PM
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41. Ah. Thanks.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 12:08 PM
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35. Help get Jack Carter elected!!
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shimmergal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 11:44 AM
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55. Yes!
Ensign has a huge monetary advantage over Carter, as well as incumbency. For various complex reasons the national democratic party isn't putting many $$$ into Carter's campaign. They may be thinking strategically, but I'd love to see the conventional wisdom upended and Jack Carter pulling a victory out of the coming election.

He could do it too, with a decent amount of money in his campaign. His "down home" manner and stump speech about the Repubs. running up enormous deficits is a natural to break loose some of those rural Nevadans who've kept NV officially in the pub fold. Thanks, NVMojo, for the reminder.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 11:46 AM
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26. My Little Story.... I've ALWAYS Been Political & I Engage Almost
everyone in one way or another trying to discuss ISSUES.

I have really pushed hard to keep my family informed and that goes for my grand-kids. During the last election I took them to rallies and even though they enjoyed it, I'm sure they didn't really get it. Recently, my grandson got his driver's license and my daughter would let him use her car when possible. I have a 4-cylinder Celica and he loves my car, BUT it has bumper stickers all across the back. He would ask to use my car and I would let him, he would make comments about the bumper stickers and I would always say "you want the car, you get the stickers too!"

School started and he called and asked if he could use my car because they aren't having any luck finding a car that he can afford, so I agreed to let him use it every other week, BUT HE HAD TO PUT THE GAS IN! He agreed and was really happy. Last Friday he brings my car back, after having it for the week.... first words out of his mouth.... "You know, I'm finally getting what you've been saying about POLITICS!" He went on to tell me he put $20.00 in my 4-cylinder car and it only came up to half a tank and he was pissed!

You see, I've been preaching to him and the younger 2 girls just how important what is happening today will be for them. THEY need to "pay attention" because THEY are going to be the ones to live with this mess. I had told my daughter and her husband that I would let him use the car, but I would bet he wasn't going to be happy about the cost. I was CORRECT! He's very involved in basketball, and has been willing to work for the most part to have extra money, but NOW it has HIT HOME!! Playing sports doesn't leave him much time to work, but he says he will have to find SOMETHING, so he can afford to drive!!!

I have said this would be a factor to the average family from day one.... just wish the Democrats would get it together enough to stand up and fight for "we the people" like so many of us here do!!!!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 04:08 PM
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 04:30 PM
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46. You've now posted this in three of my threads .......
No more, okay?

Pretty please?
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 07:09 PM
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47. The whole trend is our way
Provided they don't steal it. They will, if they think they can.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 08:58 PM
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50. I can finally say
that my Republican parents now realize what a bunch of horseshit the US media is feeding everybody. (At least as far as most issues go).

I consider this to be very good news.
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Lifelong Protester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 11:04 PM
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51. I feel it here in Wisconsin too
and still can't believe people aren't out there scraping off those 'defunct' (in every sense of the word) W bummer stickers. (and yes, I meant bummer). :freak:
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 03:15 AM
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52. Kick... Good Stuff. n/t
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cleveramerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 05:35 AM
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53. the news has been so grim.......
they can't sell their "everything is going swell" lie anymore. I hope this continues even though its an easy lie to fall for since WE ALL WISH THINGS WERE SWELL.
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 08:22 AM
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54. I just wish it would sink into my family!
They're among the millions of brainwashed Christians waiting for Jesus to come back on August 22 (according to Glenn Beck)!
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