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Bob Geiger Donating Member (505 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 10:26 AM
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Feingold on Lieberman: He "Doesn't Get It"
Edited on Sun Aug-13-06 10:39 AM by Bob Geiger


Joe Lieberman must have taken some solace after his defeat by Connecticut Democratic Senatorial nominee Ned Lamont to hear his friend Dick Cheney come to his defense with the ludicrous and offensive assertion that the voters' endorsement of Lamont somehow emboldens terrorists.

I guess desperate people will cling to whatever life raft comes their way -- even if it's in the form of someone like Cheney.

And there was Lieberman last week in an equally pathetic attempt to exploit the terror plot discovered in Great Britain and somehow use it against Lamont, saying "If we just pick up as Ned Lamont wants us to do and get out by a date certain, it will be taken as a tremendous victory by the same people who wanted to blow up these planes in this plot hatched in England and it will strengthen them and they will strike us again."

Even forgetting that the majority of the American people now favor leaving Iraq and that the money we are wasting there could actually be used for real investigative work like the Brits just did, Lieberman is finding that Senate Democrats, less than a week after he lost his party's nomination, are already behind Lamont and repudiating Joe's right-wing views.

Appearing on ABC’s This Week with George Stephanopoulos this morning, Russ Feingold (D-WI) showed standard Senate collegiality toward Lieberman but said that Joe "doesn’t get it" when it comes to protecting Americans and that he should get out of the race and accept the will of Connecticut voters.

Here's Feingold:
"Well, I like Joe Lieberman, but I support Ned Lamont, because Joe is showing with that regrettable statement that he doesn’t get it. He doesn’t get it. The fact is that we were attacked on 9/11 by Al Qaeda and its affiliates and its sympathizers, not by Saddam Hussein. And unfortunately Senator Lieberman has supported the Bush Administration’s disastrous strategic approach of getting us stuck in Iraq instead of focusing on those who attacked us.

"I mean, look at the places that have been attacked: India, Morocco, Turkey, Afghanistan, Indonesia, Somalia, Spain, Great Britain. What does this have to do with Iraq? And Senator Lieberman is stuck on that point. Ned Lamont and I believe that we should refocus on those who attacked us on 9/11 and not simply try to cover our tracks because this was such a very poor decision in terms of the overall battle against the terrorists who attacked us."

Asked by Stephanopoulos if Lieberman should drop out of the race, Feingold said "It would be better for the Democratic Party, I think it would be better for the people of Connecticut, it would be better for the country if he did it."

"We have to change course," said Feingold. "We have to focus on those that attacked us on 9/11 and get away from this very mistaken policy in Iraq."

You can see the video clip at Think Progress.

As for Lieberman, he needs to get ready for a long, hot summer.

You can reach Bob Geiger at geiger.bob@gmail.com.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 10:28 AM
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1. Feingold/Murtha 2008
Russ For US.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 10:34 AM
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2. Yeah! That would be a magical ticket!
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 01:22 PM
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8. WOW! What a combo!!
I could get behind that ticket! :kick:
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 06:44 PM
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13. Me three! Sink the Swiftboaters! n/t
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Higans Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 05:16 PM
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16. I would vote for them, but My vote dosn't get counted so it don't matter.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 10:37 AM
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3. I have been very impressed and very proud of the
people who represented the democratic party this morning.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 10:43 AM
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4. Wait, I gotta check with Rabbi Gellman
Edited on Sun Aug-13-06 10:46 AM by gratuitous
He's the one who said that Lieberman lost because the Jewish community in Connecticut wasn't sufficiently supportive of Mr. Lieberman. It wasn't the war, it wasn't the smooching, it wasn't the abject toadying, it wasn't the whiny voice; no, according to Rabbi Gellman, it was all the Jews' fault.

So, what is a "good" Jew supposed to do when Sen. Feingold says that Lieberman is mistaken? Golly Rabbi Gellman, it's all so confusing!
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 08:16 PM
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17. Why Should The Jewish Community
support Lieberman - just because he's Jewish? That sounds like racism, Rabbi. Should an African American always support the black candidate or a Hispanic always support the Hispanic candidate?

Or is that we know Lieberman is a friend of Israel and we can't count on Lamont to be the same? So are you saying that Jews should make a candidate's support of Israel the main voting issue? I hope that isn't what you are saying Rabbi, because we're Americans, electing people we think best qualified to serve America - not Israel.

Yes I'm Jewish and yes I'm Pro-Israel. And if I were in Connecticut, I would not support Lieberman.

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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 11:08 AM
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5. Russ is standing up once again
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rep the dems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 11:54 AM
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6. That was a good moment, although I was disappointed to hear
Feingold's statement about McCain and how he would easily win the Presidential Election and that he could definitely beat Russ. Come on, Russ, we don't need to hear that.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 12:07 PM
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7. I would like to see that discussed. Why on earth did he make a statement
Edited on Sun Aug-13-06 12:22 PM by Phoebe Loosinhouse
like that. Feingold had been one of my frontrunners, but now I don't know. He seemed to be completely serious when he said that too. It is not just the personalities at the top of the ticket that matter, but the positions on numerous issues that will make the difference. I agree with Russ almost completely most of the time and I would think his position on issues would sway the day. Why did he make this pre-concession in a race that hasn't occured?


edit for spelling
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rep the dems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 06:36 PM
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12. He kinda had no choice but to say that McCain could beat him
since the original quote in which he said McCain could win the election was right there, but it was not a smart thing to say. If the two of them do end up the nominees, then this quote is guaranteed to hurt if not destroy his chances.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 01:29 PM
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9. Tex. candidate Kinky Friedman commends Lieberman: liberals = anti-American
On Joe Scarborough's show this week, Kinky praised Joe Lieberman for leaving the Democratic Party, and Kinky suggested liberals were anti-American:

SCARBOROUGH: Hey, Kinky, could the argument be that both parties are extreme, vote for the new independent?

FRIEDMAN: That could certainly be. I think the mood of the country is really, really independent. I mean, I think the winds of change are really blowing right now. And all the—the way I see Lieberman, he's very—he's pro-America, unashamedly, and he's pro-Israel. And these liberals are
not.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14285602/
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 01:31 PM
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10. A very honest and very gutsy statement....
I'm not sure it'll do anything but make Joe dig his delusional heels in even harder and hang on for dear life. Plus he'll be feeling persecuted on top of it all.

Joe, just GO!

TC
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pa28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 03:06 PM
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11. Well said Russ. Kick. n/t
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 09:54 PM
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14. Kick.(nt)
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emmadoggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 04:06 PM
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15. Love that Russ!
:thumbsup:

:kick:
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 09:16 PM
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18. I'm Trying To Imagine Dick Cheney, Human Lifeboat
and my mind can't wrap around it. Where is the little valve to blow up the Cheneyboat?

What happens if the Cheneyboat hits a sharp rock or piece of jagged metal? Cheney skin whoooshing through the air like a balloon let loose?

Can it be rolled up for compact storage when deflated?

A Deflated Cheney: now THAT'S something I'd like to see!
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jagasian Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 09:49 PM
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19. Feingold is Presidential, a true leader!
Do you know what I hate? I hate how Democrats are scared of Republicans. I hate how somebody with a principled and rational position, like Feingold, is marked as an extremist or a far-left liberal. Honestly. Somebody, please tell me what is far-left about Feingold. The government and politics in this country has moved so extremely far to the right, that a relative centrist like Feingold is now considered far-left.

Show me one example of a position of Feingold's that is extreme. Show me one position of his that is not principled and rational. He is a nice, intelligent guy. Screw this talk of Hillary and Kerry. Those are the perfect example of the WRONG choice. They are weak, pander to the flavor of the day, and both voted for the Patriot Act and the Iraq War.

Feingold doesn't just talk the talk. He walks the walk. Other politicians, such as Hillary, pay lip service to how the Patriot Act is bad because it takes away our civil liberties, yet most of them voted to approve it. Other politicians such as Hillary pay lip service to the mistake that is Iraq, yet they voted for that mistake.

FEINGOLD VOTED AGAINST THE PATRIOT ACT.
FEINGOLD VOTED AGAINST THE IRAQ WAR.
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ChipsAhoy Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 10:29 PM
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20. A bump in the night. n/t
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 03:12 AM
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21. Applauding Feingold.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 03:47 AM
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22. NICE job, Russ. nt
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Na Gael Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 09:22 AM
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23. Cheney stands behind Lieberman?
I hear hunting season is about to begin again...
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 09:35 AM
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24. DUBAI JOE! Does get it and guess who's backing him
I'll give you 3 guesses who is backing him.
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