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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 10:31 PM
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In N.J. Race, Kean Tries to Keep It Local
Robert Menendez and Tom Kean Jr. agree on so many principles that it's hard to believe they are running against each other in one of the nation's tightest Senate elections. Current tax policies are misguided, the status quo is unacceptable and New Jersey needs a senator who will stand up to powerful leaders, both men say.

They are aiming their remarks at entirely different administrations, however, and the contest appears likely to turn on whether voters see Washington or Trenton as the capital more in need of a shake-up.

Menendez, the Democratic incumbent, is trying to make the election a referendum on President Bush, and especially the president's Iraq war policy. Kean, the Republican challenger, wants to keep the focus on taxes, state ethics, New Jersey's Democratic-run government and Menendez's ties to it.

As much as any race this fall, theirs will test whether Republicans in tossup and Democratic-leaning states can shift enough attention from Bush's low popularity to preserve their congressional majorities. Polls suggest the race is about even, and if Kean can stay close or ahead, his keep-it-local strategy may inspire Republicans in other states as Nov. 7 draws near.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/12/AR2006081200779.html
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mconvente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 10:37 PM
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1. I can't see how this race is even close
Most NJ republicans are "business" republicans - they like bush for his tax cuts and stuff, but for the most part could give a shit about abortion and gay marraige - like my boss.

I think Menendez is taking a hit because of the whole budget crisis, which yes required some sacrifices from all, but as a result of Whitman's (former repub gov) "reduce taxes but not spending" mantra that sent NJ to fiscal disaster.

Still think Menendez will pull it out. We need him - he's a great liberal force in the Senate.
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Cornus Donating Member (720 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 11:04 PM
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2. A 'liberal force'...
...who supports a flag burning amendment??? Don't think so...
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mconvente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 12:15 AM
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3. One blemish in an otherwise excellent record
I believe he supported the filabuster of Alito - when many of our dem senators did not.

Between a flag burning amendment or championing removing tax cuts for the rich, ending the Iraq war, and going after Big Oil, i'll let the flag burning amendment slide.
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ShockediSay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 01:14 AM
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4. ALL Repugs wanna make it local; we wanna make it a referendum
on the Repug control, and the results, of the last 6 years.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 07:45 AM
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6. From the republican standpoint, if they can't win the argument in favor
of the White House administration and republican control of the House and the Senate, then I can see them begging the question and attacking democrats on "local" issues which is irrelevant since the Senate is NJ being represented in national policy more than helping a municipality's problem with say, rising property taxes or zoning issues. Win, win, win - win ANY argument, just win.
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theanarch Donating Member (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 12:36 PM
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8. it's actually more than one blemish...
...yes, he voted for the flag fetish amendment (which he also did as a congressman--at least he's consistant); he's 1,000% pro-Israeli re: Lebanon; and he's 100,000% anti-Castro (gotta pander to all those ageing, right-wing Cuban/Catholic exiles in Union County, y'know). Beyond that, however, Menendez is a fairly consistant, if moderate, "liberal"...which is more than can be said for Bob Casey, or even Saint Ned Lamont...and he is exponentially better than Tom Kean JUNIOR (not to be confused with Senior, however much his campaign depends on NJ voters confusing the two), who is about as inconsistant, flip-flopping, and cowardly a pol as you'll find.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 01:40 PM
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9. He did support the Alito filibuster
which took some courage as Alito is from NJ. He was also one of the 13 who voted for Kerry/Feingold. For both of these votes, he gave very nice speeches in the Senate. Both of these are far more important than a lag burning bill that was really a political stunt - that was not going anywhere.
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JohMunich99 Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 01:32 AM
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5. I don't care if David Ortiz strikes out here and there
When it matters he hits the damn ball out of the park! Who would you rather have taking swings with the New Jersey Senate seat, our man Mendez or Kean?
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mconvente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 12:19 PM
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7. exactly - nice analogy
lol im a redsox fan so im all about ortiz!

But it's true, if he has a couple of blemishes (flag burning amendment support), but he's overall a great senator representing most of our liberal values, then I'd definitely rather have Menendez.

Bear in mind that even though Kean, Jr. portrays himself as a moderate, he's just like Scott Garrett (my 5th district motherfucker of a congressman) - that is, Kean supports removing the Estate Tax, supports Big Oil, supports ALL of Shrub's bullshit tax cuts for the rich, etc. He sucks plain and simple, and NJ is not going to let him get in the Senate.
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