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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 11:58 PM
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will bush suspend the midterms?
i'm not going to endorse what the author of this article is predicting ... it sure does give you something to ponder though ...

the basic premise? bush is guilty of several bazillion serious crimes and cannot possibly allow Democrats to take control of either the House or the Senate ... if they do, he'll be hung from the highest monument in Washington ...

and soooooo, this guy's thinking is that bush is going to create a justification to cancel the election ... it's not like the theory is new; does anyone believe this is a plausible scenario?


source: http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_jay_esbe_060811_why_there_probably_w.htm

<skip> Toppling Bagdad, remaining as occupiers right next door to Iran was no accident; it was designed from a strategic perspective to create the requisite conditions for a massive apocalyptic destruction of the Islamic world. The planners were prepared to play it either way; flowering democracy, or when the dominos began falling the opposite direction, to incite the levels of chaos and mass violence only addressable by "unconventional means". Continuing to read between the lines, you should recall the statements made last year that "all options are on the table", referring of course to the use of "first strike" nuclear weapons.

One more read between the lines here: "Before I leave office". Given the political conditions in the United States at this moment, you can safely assume that from George W. Bush's perspective, that's no longer 2008; it can't be. Bush is in fact preparing to ignite what can only be called the Apocalypse, in the next 90 days. There won't be another election here; The coming war is going to result in the suspension of the Constitution. Bush has proven himself its absolute enemy because it has proven to be his enemy. The one person certain to survive this nightmare is George W. Bush. He has the power, and unless stopped -highly unlikely- he's already begun using it.

There you have it. It's not something anyone wants to believe, but there it is.
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NoodleBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 12:04 AM
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there is no possible stretch of the constitution that would allow ANY
Edited on Sat Aug-12-06 12:05 AM by NoodleBoy
branch of government to suspend elections for anything.

by the way, just a question, what have you been doing for the upcoming election, besides scaring the piss out of yourself?
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 12:15 AM
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4. sheesh ...
i assume you didn't read what i wrote ... i said right up front i did not think this was credible ...

my campaign work this year has been limited to local races ... i've also been doing some pretty good stuff around voting machine fraud ... i've also been part of a progressive film series and discussion group that we started at our local library to raise awareness on key issues ... we started with 2 people; now we're up to around 40 ...

i'm also a member of my town's Democratic Committee and recently was elected as a delegate to my state convention which i attended a couple of months ago ...

oh, and i spend quite a bit of time writing on the web and on DU ... i consider that very important as well ...

so, did i pass your little test?
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 12:04 AM
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1. Why cancel it when you can jack it?
Why cancel it when you can jack it? That'll be the most likely scenario. Then again, they might not know which districts to steal, because the ones we will win will happen so sporadically(random districts from the most historically competitive to not).
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 12:11 AM
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3. No, Sir, That Will Not Occur
The author seems to have odd tastes in amusement....
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 12:24 AM
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6. how about this?
do you think it's likely that if the Dems take the House, Conyers who would become the Chair of the House Judiciary Committee, will press the allegations in the following document:

http://www.house.gov/judiciary_democrats/iraqrept2/fullreport.pdf

there's some pretty serious charges in there ...
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 12:32 AM
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8. It Is My Hope He Will, Sir
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Maccagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 12:16 AM
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5. Nothing and no one could save him
if he even thought about it.
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KKKarl is an idiot Donating Member (662 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 12:31 AM
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7. Hecka of a job you doing there Bushie.
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 12:34 AM
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9. didn't john asscroft float that same idea back in May/June 2004?
I remember talk of possibly suspending the 2004 elections if there were a new 911 or some other major carnage event. That thought was bantered about while some inside the WH tested the legality or searched for answers as to whether or not that suspending the 2004 elections was legal.
The outcome was moot since bush and his Dick "stole another election" correct me if I am wrong but I do recall talk of this very subject we are discussing right now.

bush and his Dick have no alternative. They can't afford to allow this Nov mid-term election.. Too risky. Should they fail to use that Martial Law Suspending the Elections and tempt the hand of fate by permitting the elections to go forward they stand to lose big time. A Democratic House and or Senate or both would mean certain investigations will go forward that could mean possible arrests for the entire WH, indictments, convictions and maybe "the Death Sentence" for 911 atrocities.

I will now go read that story.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 12:35 AM
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10. There is no way Bush will cancel the 2006 elections...
...like that past few, he plans on stealing them instead or having the GOP use issues that get the knuckledraggers out...

The Repugs plan on letting the Dems win in 2006 and 2008 so they inherit their mess again and guarantee another 16 years of Repugs after 2012...

It's an old game.
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man4allcats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 12:59 AM
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11. It is not beyond the realm of possibility, and to assume that it is
would be foolhardy where this administration is concerned. Indeed, this type of thing has been posited elsewhere. Note also here and here. One would hope that we still have enough democracy left to us to prevent such an occurrence, but again, to make that assumption based on what we already know of these people would be capricious at best.

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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 01:13 AM
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12. i don't think it's "beyond the realm of possibility"
this administration is the embodiment of evil ... they don't give a damn about this country ... if they could get away with it, i think they'd do it in a minute ...

the thing is though, i remain skeptical they'll try it ... it's hard to imagine either the military or the Congress would support it ... of course, you never really know ...

i can just hear the news reports on MSNBC:

in Washington today, Royal Emperor bush declared marshal law, the Congress has been disbanded, and surfers in California have invented some unusual things you can do with surfboard wax ...

the whole damned country has gone insane ...
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 01:26 AM
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16. Nothing is beyond their capabilites to do harm
Edited on Sat Aug-12-06 01:42 AM by IChing
If anything it will depend on the levels of their desperation and ability to control the escalating chaos that they create
and the chaos that consumes them.

They are still in control, and as pointed out, have the elections to try to subjugate the populace,
plus the powers of the corporations behind them.

Economic and social upheavals and things that they think they control but do not
can be the straw that breaks the camel's back with either the public or with them.
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man4allcats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 02:34 AM
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19. Re: "the whole damned country has gone insane ..."
Fortunately, there are antipsychotics available to treat insanity. In the case of politics, we are those antipsychotics. The only question is whether there are enough of us at the right time and in sufficient strength to stem the tide. Ultimately, it's a question of will, dosage and timing. Keep a good thought, and keep your courage.

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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 01:16 AM
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13. Why do people pay attention to these kooks?
Pshaw!! I guess we're doomed to live during times when people's credulity is so fatally prevalent. It's part of that which has gotten us into this mess. People believed another nutcase, now entrenched in the White House for over five years. So why shouldn't people also believe all these other kooks who make shit up and pass it off as truth.

Still, one gets weary of all of it.

Why can't people just be honorable and truthful towards one another?
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 01:24 AM
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15. eternal vigilance ...
remember the old Ben Franklin line: "you have a republic ... if you can keep it"

it's easy to talk about things that have never happened in this country and conclude that they are "way out there" ... what kind of nutcases are telling us we're all at risk now?

pretty easy to do that ...

and there are all sorts of safeguards built into our institutions that help preserve our democracy ...

but to dismiss the risks out of hand seems imprudent to me ... i don't think this scenario is likely; i do think it's possible ...

and i especially think we should be extra vigilant when we have a gang of thugs in the WH who have no regard whatsoever for our Constitution ...

do you think we're somehow insulated for all time from tyranny?
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ArbustoBuster Donating Member (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 01:20 AM
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14. There's no way he could politically survive such an action.
The people would rise up and smash him down, tossing him into jail after a show trial. The military would refuse to accept his orders, because they swear to protect and defend the Constitution, not that jackass' career. Bush would be lucky to get out of the country before he was captured and sent to jail for the rest of his miserable life.

We Americans aren't so anesthetized that we would allow him to do such a blatantly monstrous thing.
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Sam Odom Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 01:32 AM
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17. Did not this Republic hold an election during the Civil War ?
Yes indeed and no way will it be stopped or suspended in Nov.

UNLESS...

There is a nuclear strike on our homeland.
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 02:34 AM
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18. you're comparing bush to Lincoln??
most curious ...
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nealmhughes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 02:40 AM
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20. No authority under the constitution to do, while the constitution requires
elections every two years for the House....no getting around it.

Otherwise is treason and the result is a noose and a civil war.
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