We need bi-partisanship and a spirit of cooperation.

[Telly Savalas]

That's the only way things are going to get done in Washington.

That's why I call on Republican Congresspeople and Senators to join the Democrats in implementing a single payer universal health care system, a redeployment of the troops from Iraq, laws which will protect our environment, and a fiscal policy that will give us balanced budgets with a progressive tax system.

[Lost-in-FL]

1. That's why we need Lieberman

:sarcasm:




HA!! I GOT YOUR ATTENTION!!! :rofl: :rofl: :popcorn:

[joemurphy]

2. Don't hold your breath. n/t

[Telly Savalas]

3. For as many people as there are who compliment Lieberman

for his willingness to be "bipartisan", I'm sure they would applaud Republicans who do the same thing.

[Hawkowl]

11. You are on crack.

The rethugs have not been bipartisan on ANYTHING!!! They have rammed their corporatist, corrupt, greedy, murderous agenda down the entire country's throat without one whit of bi-partisanship.
I submit to you sir, that they have turned the term of bi-partisan into a bleeding oxy-moron.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

4. b u l l s h i t

we don't need bi-partisan anything.

We have a committed (or they should be) minority which exerts religious control over federal science, education, health, medicine, war, peace, diplomatic and economic issues. Their views have not only destroyed our present, they are destroying our future.
It is not just stem cells. It is not just social security. It is not just pensions. It is not just the Patriot act.

it is an undeclared war by truly insane, single-minded idiots who prove that Darwin was wrong. Because all you need to do is read their plans and you have 100% proof that they have NOT evovled.

This is was. They knew it long before we recognized it as such. That is our fault. But, we cannot - no, society at large cannot allow them to continue being in charge. They are backwards, fear-mongering, evil, power-hungry, greedy little shits who ignore the rules that disfavor them, and apply those that can aid their cause.

We need a revolution. A quiet, peaceful one, such as that suggested by Alexander Hamilton. True patriots would agree. Our country deserves nothing less.

[Telly Savalas]

6. I think you missed the point of my post.

Whenever you hear some talking head blathering on about bipartisanship, it invariably is referring to Democrats kissing GOP ass. If it's good for Lieberman to be bipartisan for worshipping Bush's war, then shouldn't it be good for Bill Frist to be bipartisan and support an immediate withdrawal?

[MysteryToMyself]

9. When they do co-operate the middle class loses.

Democrats going along with Republicans gave us a bankruptcy bill that is written by banks, at a time when the middle class is being told they have to have $300,000 each during retirement to pay their medical bills. That is the extra we will need even with the Medicare insurances. The bankruptcy bill makes it impossible for most to go medically bankrupt.

Just a small percentage of people go bankrupt without good reason. Most have overwhelming medical bills, have lost their jobs or lost their spouse.


It is good that Lieberman is out. He had decided Bush was right about privatising Social Security, but there are a lot of the republican lite left.

[AZBlue]

10. Ya know, this country was founded on the idea of bipartisanship.

So before you start going off defining patriotism, think about that. No founding father wanted coercion and intolerance. They did not want everyone to be required to think alike. And they certainly didn't want a single party rule.

Yes, we do need to get rid of the Republicans who refuse to participate in it. But bipartisanship is NOT bullshit.

[Hawkowl]

12. Founded on NON-partisan ship

You are wrong. The country was founded on the concept of NO POLITICAL PARTIES. The two original political parties, i.e; the Federalists under Alexander Hamilton and the Democrats under Thomas Jefferson were very bitter rivals indeed.

You sir are talking out your ass and making history up as you go along.

[AZBlue]

16. Uh....no I'm not.

And, duh...I'm a woman.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

15. not true. there was no artificial two party system

In fact, Franklin, Jefferson, Hamilton, Adams and others recognized and were disturbed at the idea of political parties and how they could become self-feeding monsters, preventing normal people from running for office.
The idea that "bipartisanism" existed and that it was good was a creation of the middle 1900s. and it was never true. The ideas of party discipline, K-Street projects, control of committee chairs and slots BASED ON PARTY POLITICS are destroying our system.

we need to throw out all the incumbents and start anew. democrats with a little d, not Dems (certainly not many of ours in congress) and not GOPs.

[AZBlue]

17. No, there was no two party system in 1770's

That came later. It was a natural evolution from differing opinions - which the founders did embrace.

K Street was an unnatural evolution of that party system.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

19. I wonder. perhaps they were more aware of the

inherent dangers than we. And their fears might have been based on what they saw from entrenched powers in merry olde england and colonial political systems.

K Street is merely a logical result. When congress was created under the current constitution, there were a few million inhabitants total, including those cotton-picking pieces of property, hree against their will. 435 congress critters had actual opportunities to see and meet with the people they represented. No longer. Today, a senator may represent 10,000,000 How will he/she waste his time? actually dealing with his constituents? Or pursuing great financial gains by accepting lobbyists into his office?

"Hmmm. what a choice. I want to stay in this cozy job, but that means I need to campaign each day, seven days a week to fund the campaign. I can waste time helping my state, OR, I can let lobbyists buy my soul allowing me to be one of the 100 most powerful people in my own mind. " given that choice, how do mere mortals react? especially with earmarks, vacations, and rising campaign costs?

I suggest that by keeping the senate and house at artificially low numbers, the power and importance of each seat has increased proportionately. Therefore, (even at their relatively low wages), the power contained in each house and senate seat is so enriching and rewarding (including financially) that they spend millions keeping their seats. K Street or something like it was bound to occur.

[marmar]

5. We need it...

But we're not going to get it from this particular cult of Republicans. I've never quite seen anything like today's Repugs.

[IChing]

7. bipartisan

Hopefully it will load

[Rosemary2205]

8. You can't cooperate

there is no bipartisanship with these people. It just isn't possible.

[Hawkowl]

13. Agreed.

How do you cooperate with rapists? Criminals? Murderous megalomaniacs? Moral ambivalence has been a sharp criticism of liberals by conservatives. Meaning that when dems cooperate with the rethuglicans they are immediately portrayed as flip floppers, wishy washy, and without principles or a moral code.

The current right wing, fascist bullies in charge of the Rethuglican party view any effort at cooperation as a sign of weakness. It merely emboldens them to greater evils.

Similar to growing up in a rough neighborhood, we won't stop getting kicked in the teeth, until we stop smiling, and kick back. Without respect at best, or fear at worst, we can't cooperate bipartisanally on anything.

[Telly Savalas]

14. The point of this post, since most responses seem to miss it

is that whenever the word "bipartisan" is used in the media and press, it almost always refers to Democrats having unquestioning acceptance of the GOP agenda. I would really like to see a Democratic talking head challenge this by publicly demanding that "bipartisanship" work the other way.

[salin]

18. I caught it - and thought it was funny ... yep - let them do single-payer

health care - to PROVE that they are really 'bipartisan'. :D

[MrCoffee]

20. LOL! good post! n/t