I am sad to say but Sean Hannity is right

[ps1074]

Democrats are not the party of Truman, FDR and Scoop Jackson anymore...

Of course they are not you stupid f***ing weasel... What you fail to mention is that republicans are not the party of Eisenhower, Rockefeller and Dewey anymore. Instead it is the party of Tom Delay, Ann Coulter and Rick Santorum.

Just take a look at where both the parties stood half a century ago and where they are standing now. USA has moved so far to the right since then. These 'Rockefeller' republicans would be considered democrats now. And while the likes of Bush, Delay, Santorum and Coulter are moving the republican party to the extreme right, they expect democrats to move in the same direction. Which in another 50 years time will have the democratic party of tomorrow stand where the republicans are standing now.

NOT. GOING. TO. HAPPEN.

The party may have lost its soul but it will not find it looking in the direction of Zell Miller and Joe Lieberman. It will find it looking back at the working people. And that is what Howard Dean, Moveon, Kos and other blogs and 'special interest' (as repukes call them) have been preaching. Back to the people. People powered politics. Fuck Zell Miller and fuck Joe Lieberman.

Hannity, you are a f***ing moran. You really do SUCK ASS.

<end of rant>

[ScreamingMeemie]

1. Kicked and Recommended.

Nothing more to say there. :yourock:

[mcscajun]

2. Kicked and given that fifth R.

:)

[greguganus]

3. I agree. Sean Hannity is right

a right wing freaking idiot.

[Smarmie Doofus]

4. Truth is... even Nixon Republicans would be DEMS now.

>>>These 'Rockefeller' republicans would be considered democrats now.>>>>>

[question everything]

18. That's right. Pro-Choice Goldwater, too (nt)

[vi5]

5. Wait, they want us to be the party of FDR, Truman, and Scoop?

But I thought they were complaining that we were in a pre-9/11 mindset. Wouldn't that be waaaaaaaaaaay pre-9/11?

[FormerDem06]

11. FDR and Truman were stronger than any current politician

Right or Left on Foreign policy, and their desire to protect America. And I dare say any politician in the last 30 years for that matter.

[CrushTheDLC]

6. To paraphrase the Dixie Chicks

I'm ashamed that Scoop Jackson was a resident of the State of Washington.

Yeah, he was well respected as a Senator at the time, though nobody ever mistook him for a liberal. But the fact that traitorous Straussian shitballs like Perle and Wolfowitz once worked for him certainly has to tarnish his reputation a great deal. :puke:

Now we have Maria Cantwell who isn't any better, unfortunately (except when it comes to the oil companies. Apparently they're the only corporations she doesn't like)

[No Exit]

7. Sean right? Why--did he say he should euthanize himself??

[Canuckistanian]

8. According to Hannity, we're ruled by "moveon dot orgers"

Oh, and George Soros is our Lord and Master (All praise Him!)

What a putz. Ass is not the only thing that Hannity sucks.

[LTR]

16. According to me, they're ruled by religious fundamentalists...

Sun Myung Moon, the PNAC and the NRA.

[nolabels]

9. Who is Sean Hannity?

Like just turn the crap off already.

Why is it that world just seems filled with all these people teaming and eager for others to tell them who or what they are :shrug:

[KKKarl is an idiot]

14. He is a man..

I think.

[RagAss]

25. AM Radio....frequecy of the Redneck.....

[deaniac21]

10. Coulter is not a politician.

[citizen snips]

12. she represents the religious zealotry of the right.

[ps1074]

13. neither is Soros

what's your point?

[LTR]

15. They're not even the party of Reagan anymore

Now I've got 'em pissed! :evilgrin:

Or Goldwater, for that matter.

Think these guys would approve of what's going on these days?

[Tom Joad]

17. Scoop Jackson was a warmonger, and a neocon before there were

neocons. Not what i want from the Democrats.

[LeFleur1]

20. Scoop Jackson

Scoop Jackson was never a neocon.
Kinda undermines your credibility to say such a thing.
Neocons would have been/and were laughed out of even running for office during Scoop's time.
He may have been on the wrong side of some issues, but, I repeat, HE WAS NEVER A NEOCON.

[Tom Joad]

21. Well, many of the worst neocons worked with him.

Academics in these circles, many of whom were still Democrats, rebelled against the Democratic Party's leftward drift on defense issues in the 1970s, especially after the nomination of George McGovern in 1972. Many of their concerns were voiced in the influential 1970 bestseller The Real Majority by future television commentator and neo-conservative Ben Wattenberg. Many clustered around Sen. Henry "Scoop" Jackson, a Democrat derisively known as the "Senator from Boeing," during his 1972 and 1976 campaigns for President; but later came to align themselves with Ronald Reagan and the Republicans, who promised to confront charges of Soviet "expansionism." Among those who worked for Jackson are Paul Wolfowitz, Doug Feith, Richard Perle and Felix Rohatyn.

How do you believe Scoop was not a neocon?

[threadkillaz]

19. Hannity is unamerican

He believes in a divided states of america.

[IronLionZion]

22. Wasn't old Scoop the world's first neo-con?

Granted he was a great and honorable man. But he was mentor to some of the most radical neo-con lunatics in the world like Paul Wolfowitz.

[Tom Joad]

23. Yes to he was the first neocon, or something close. Not an honorable

man. Anyone who supported and enabled the continuation of the slaughter of Vietnam is anything but honorable. Millions dead. Jackson helped alot.

[mitchum]

28. He's tied with Daniel Patrick Moynihan for that "honor"

[formernaderite]

24. Great post

the democratic party is BACK

[Cell Whitman]

26. There is a reason the nation has skewed hard right but most

don't want to really learn why.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/8/9/13513/46197

[alvarezadams]

27. Nah

The move to the right is the logical consequence of billions of dollars spent over decades by corporate interests, dating from the time of the New Deal.

Few people seem to realize where we were before FDR - hardly any child labour laws, no concept of overtime pay, no protection for the workers or consumers, no regulations for business. It was a neoliberal paradise for corporations - which they took advantage of to the hilt.

The result, of course, was the Depression.

The New Deal MADE the middle class, turned the US into history's wealthiest society by forcing business to give a little back to the workers. And boy, was big business PISSED about it. From day 1 they railed against FDR and the New Deal, fought against it with everything they had. In Mt. Pellerin a group of outdated liberal economists (liberal in the economic and not political sense) got their heads together and created neoliberalism - big business lapped it up.

The indoctrination campaigns against "big government" (a dysphemism for all manner or social programs and regulatory services), "liberals" (closely tied to posterior red scares), multilateralism, etc. - all started in the 1940's. And WWII didn't help matters much - the "dollar a year types" (many of them worth every penny) that immigrated from big business to help the war effort effectively torpedoed the future of the New Deal.

The campaigns have been highly successful, especially with the generations that didn't live through the Depression. By appealing to greed, selfishness and patriotism, Big Business has effectuated a silent coup d'etat that even Ike partially identified.

The Moonies are simply icing on an incredibly high layer-cake, and relatively small players at that. The damage was largely done well before Moon entered the picture.

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For those interested in an "early" interpretation of the "VRWC", try "The Warfare State"
by Fred J Cook (1964?).

As for rw funding, http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/#org and especially their archive (with data from 1985-1991) http://rightweb.irc-online.org/gw/?sort=title

[Cell Whitman]

29. I'm not saying he was the only force but you are selling his efforts way

short. I am guessing you are not that familiar with all he has done, don't mean that as a knock, I rarely find anyone who is.

That's because TV doesn't cover his efforts so few know or understand, and much of what he does is behind the scenes. When I first posted about him five years ago most liberals didn't know he owned the WT and they certainly didn't know he bragged about using it to "influence" our direction...

This is one reason why TV won't cover him:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/12/15/221015/62


Sure a lot happened before Moon but he was the straw that stirred the theofascist drink. He empowered the worst of them to take control of the Republican party. The WP reported a few years ago that Scaife had spent 300 million on conservative causes in 40 years. Moon outspent him 7 fold on the WT alone in 20, I am sure you understand the huge role that paper played in putting the right in power. It helped put them over the top but that is only one part of the story.

With Moon it is not just the money, it is the operatives and people he empowered. He's most definitely the one who pumped the theocratic vein into our direction, and sure their dominionists and whatever before him but they didn't accomplish shit till their savior Moon came along with his money and political know how. The Moral Majority was dying and the Christian Coalition hadn't gotten started when Moon created the AFC as one for instance.

Please read more about his efforts before you sell him short.

suggested reading

he has helped take down the wall between church and state -

http://www.au.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=5684&abbr=cs_

The media falls for the "independence" of his fronts BS when in fact they are all part of his plans. The AFC was one of the two most powerful conservative organizations in the country - had 300,000 religious right activists as members - it was designed to bring the Christian "right" together for political power - Moon did that. Moon supplied a state director for each state and the head of it Moon once called one of his "three musketeers" ...remember the advent of the "Voter Guide" Moon printed 30 million of them for Bush in '88. Didn't cost the republicans a dime.

Find some on the AFC here:
http://www.mediachannel.org/originals/moontranscript.shtml

here's a little bit on his money
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/8/9/13513/46197

this will give you an overview of what he did..

http://cellwhitman.blogspot.com/

again I know there is a long history to lot of things but I am telling you Moon stirred all these forces....he showed them the ropes and he gathered them for political power...the 1994 "Gingrich revolution" was nothing of the kind, it was the "Moon" revolution.

Reagan told Moon's top political aid he couldn't have done his thing without the WT. He also told the same aid in 1980 during the campaign that he "needed Rev. Moon's prayers" and "support"...

I will add this...Moon not only has more to do with the current direction of this nation politically but he is doing the same thing to the world NOW and people can't see that either.. yet...

check it out...Moon turned this country, played a huge role in where we are now...

and you are very correct about the history but Moon is the one who took that history and used it, stirred it...without him the republican party is not the party it is toady, they are a mirror image of Moon, hard right wing, authoritarian, homophobic, cult like, theocratic and Godwin's law be damned, fascist.

check it out, don't sell him short...I know he appears to be a clown but he isn't what you may think...