Randi trying to win the bet right now. Not winning.

[seriousstan]

sorry....here is the background
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1869752

and here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1869577

[meegbear]

1. Could you be a little more vague?

[tridim]

5. Don't even bother asking, the OP is a full-time Randi hater

[meegbear]

19. Thanks ...

I wanna be in the know.

[MaineDem]

2. hum, okay

:shrug:

[wryter2000]

3. Please elaborate

We don't all have our radios on.

[wyldwolf]

4. Don't forget, Norman has almost finished phase one of the project

[davidwparker]

6. Is that the difference between ALL versus some.

I'm listening to Guy James since he has John Dean on later. Also, downloading Dean's book from iTunes. It's FINALLY there.

[seriousstan]

8. No it's the difference between raghead and ragpicker.

One is a derogatory term for Muslims, the other is another name for trash picking dumpster diver.

[tridim]

10. So Boortz called Muhammed a "trash picking dumpster diver"?

:eyes:

[seriousstan]

11. That seems to be what he said.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2005-51,GGLG:en&defl=en&q=define:ragpicker&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title

[Junkdrawer]

12. You're actually going to hang your hat on that?

:rofl:

[seriousstan]

13. She said he said "raghead", they bet on that, he didn't say "raghead"

You can't agree to a bet and then change the parameters. The bet WAS the word, not the meaning.

All of my posts about this have been about THE BET! I bet all the time on silly things at work, the words used in the bet ARE THE BET.

Did you hear him say "raghead" on the MedisMAtters tape? NO

[LA lady]

7. Larry King

Randi and Neal Boortz bet on LKL last night that he had called Arabs, ragheads. It's a 5000$ to AAR. I searched and searched and I couldn't find it either.

[davidwparker]

9. She gave the clip of him saying it on Media Matters.

[seriousstan]

16. Saying "raghead"? Where? The bet was clearly stated..."raghead"

I guess I take my gambling seriously.

[tridim]

18. They say to pick your battles..

And you picked this one? Whatever floats your boat pal.

Nobody cares but you and a few other Randi haters on DU. Do you guys have a Randi haters anonymous clubhouse?

[seriousstan]

21. No, just a lack of respect for people who bet and then spin.

Perhaps Randi shouldn't bet.

[tridim]

22. Perhaps you should stop listening to her

Since she upsets you so much.

[seriousstan]

23. Doesn't upset me at all. I was simply calling the bet using the info

Randi gave. I don't have to follow her around like a dog, believing everything she says. After all, she is the one that tells us to "look it up yourself, all the links are on my website. I looked it up, she lost. Nothing upsetting about it. You are the one who can't handle the fact that she lost this bet and now is spinning like a leaf. She should have simply said, I misspoke. That would have been the upstanding thing to do when you are talking about a 5K bet.

[davidwparker]

26. You would be correct. I turned on XM and heard her. Now, I would like

to see Randi ask the guy to explain what he meant by ragpicker? Technically, you are correct.

[ClassWarrior]

14. Does anyone else find it odd that a so-called DUer is rooting for Boortz??

NGU.

[NYCGirl]

15. Someone is rooting for Boortz? NT

[ClassWarrior]

27. Yeah, the OP. He/she is positively GLOATING at what he/she perceives...

...as Randi's loss.

NGU.

[NYCGirl]

28. You take that first post as GLOATING? Take a deep breath. Looks to me

like they were pointing out she made a bad bet.

[ClassWarrior]

29. Apparently you haven't read the other threads too.

You take a deep breath. And stuff your condescension.

NGU.

[NYCGirl]

30. No, I haven't read the other threads too.

Edited to add: What the fuck has happened to perspective here?

[seriousstan]

31. I believe some folks have never made "man to man" bets.

So they don't understand that the wording of the bet is paramount. I have and when 5k was mentioned my mind and ears went into overdrive. I love to gamble on a handshake, especially when the issue is trivial but determinable.

[ClassWarrior]

32. Yes, you've been beating this dead horse for how many hours?...

But it's just about "the wording of the bet."

:rofl:

NGU.

[seriousstan]

33. I'm just spending idle time. Funny from a person with over 13000 posts

not to understand this.

:rofl:

[ClassWarrior]

35. Let's hope mine aren't as frivolous...

...or divisive as some of the ones I've seen today.

NGU.

[RadiDem]

17. I don't think she did a good job yesterday

She is great at extended stream-of-consiosness commentary, but I don't think her style works well for debates that require short concise answers.

[seriousstan]

20. She did fine, except for the bet. That was my only point.

As I said earlier, I take my gambling seriously. She blew it even after she backed away from her position that he called all Muslims ragheads and limited it only to Mohammad.

[RadiDem]

25. Not IMHO - and I'm a fan of hers -nt-

[Awsi Dooger]

24. If you propose a bet you get the specifics right

I've made man-to-man bets for 20 years. I wouldn't dare argue this as a winner, unless I wanted to be tagged a desperate phony and forfeit all credibilty.

Like seriousstan says, gambling is a serious matter for those who do it. I've been burned on a few message boards, but not this one, with posters making man to man bets, then wimping out and not paying.

[tridim]

34. I bet Awsi Dooger is a member of Serioustan's Randi haters club

Wanna shake on it? ;)