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Human Torch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:23 PM
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Raw Story teaser: "White House blasts Dems for Lieberman loss; Soon..."
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:26 PM
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1. ALL REPUBS ALL THE TIME.....
If people are not voting CONSERVATIVE or a FOKG(Friend Of King george), then they're stupid, and should be ashamed of themselves. ONLY REPUBS KNOW HOW TO LEAD EFFECTIVELY.

The sooner we do away with stupid elections, especially meaningless primaries, we'll be a much SAFER nation, and the terrorists will be jealous.
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:27 PM
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2. Huh? It's our friggin party. Why the heck are the Pukes concerned that
we sent an incumbent packing? Isn't democracy about having elections and picking who the heck we feel belongs in the Congress? Why the heck does the White House hate democracy so much?
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NorCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:29 PM
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4. Come on,
"why does the WH hate democracy..."

Do you really have to ask that? :D
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:31 PM
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6. They hate us for our freedom
:evilgrin:
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:33 PM
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7. You've got that right
Edited on Wed Aug-09-06 02:34 PM by MissWaverly
They are incensed that we let the "people" pick the candidate, how dare we do this, don't we know this is Bush Country.
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:35 PM
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11. Heh, heh. Yes I know. It was rhetorical. LoL. n/t
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:45 PM
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14. Because seeing us rank and file Dems...
...getting the idea that we can successfully challenge the status quo, even in our own party, makes them feel threatened.
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berner59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:29 PM
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3. they can spin it anyway they want...
Edited on Wed Aug-09-06 02:30 PM by berner59
The fact is: watch out war hawks...your days are numbered... This better unite the party...so far some Senators are backing Lamont which they should... Joe is abandoning the party so let him go...he's just looking more and more like a sore loser...who wants that for a senator? He'll lose in Nov, if he stays on the ballot...bet he'll be shamed off it.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:30 PM
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5. Whenever Republicans start telling us what we SHOULD be doing...
it tells me we did the right thing by doing the exact opposite.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:36 PM
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12. Bingo. It's like a freakin' Rand McNally atlas of where *not* to go.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:33 PM
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8. The WH doesn't get to comment on internal matters of OUR PARTY...
GO FUCK YOURSELVES!!!
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:35 PM
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10. But, but he's the Decider
and he gets to decide.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:35 PM
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9. I'm sure the Red Sox do whatever the Yankees want.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:40 PM
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13. And I'm sure they're overjoyed by the gracious advice they get too.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 03:12 PM
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17. worth every penny too. I think it's called "trash talk."
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Human Torch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:46 PM
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15. Raw just posted the story:
White House tears into Dems over Lieberman loss

RAW STORY
Published: Wednesday August 9, 2006

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White House press secretary Tony Snow today launched into a lengthy diatribe regarding the loss of Senator Joseph Lieberman (D-CT) in yesterday's primary election before stating the President has no official comment to make on the subject, RAW STORY has learned. Snow seemed to be attempting to use the loss to portray Democrats as weak on issues relating to national security. RAW STORY hopes to make video available shortly. A transcript of Snow's comments follow:

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/White_House_tears_into_Dems_over_0809.html

SNOW: As for the primary election in Connecticut last night -- I know there's a lot of concern and interest about that -- Democratic voters in Connecticut have made their choice, and they have chosen Ned Lamont over Senator Lieberman.

Just a couple of observations:

Key leaders in the National Democratic Party have made it clear -- no, let me back up -- this is a defining moment, in some ways, for the Democratic Party. I know a lot of people have tried to make this a referendum on the president. I would flip it. I think instead, it's a defining moment for the Democratic Party, whose national leaders now have made it clear that if you disagree with the extreme left in their party, they're going to come after you. And it is probably worth trying to trace through some of the implications of that position, because it is clearly going to be one of the central issues as we get ready for the election campaign this year, that is, the midterm elections.

First, let's think about Iraq. One of the positions is that we need to leave Iraq. We need to do it on a timetable, and we need to do it soon. It's worth walking through the consequences of that position.

First, simply to walk away on a timetable without examining the conditions on the ground and without making sure that you have the ability for the Iraqis to stand up and also assert sovereignty over their territory and have a freestanding democracy would create a power vacuum and encourage terrorists not only Iraq but throughout the region and throughout the world.

One of the problems that often besets democracies, which is impatience and hard times, in fact serves as a motivation for terror groups. Osama bin Laden some years ago said that one of the keys is that if you simply stay at terror long enough, the West is too weak; he said the Americans were too weak and would stand down.

A second consequence would be it would create a failed state in the heart of the Middle East with the second-largest oil reserves in the world.

Now, if you think about what happened in Afghanistan, Afghanistan, a nation with far fewer resources, when it was able to serve as a terrorist training and staging ground, was able to do considerable violence to the Untied States and pose a threat to the rest of the world.

Number three, another consequence would be that it would inflict incredible damage on America's credibility. We have made it clear and this president has made it clear that we are in it to make sure that the people of Iraq do in fact have the opportunity to live free and in a democracy. And to walk away from that vow would send not only a sign of weakness but also of American unreliability, and it would enable forces of oppression and totalitarianism to rise again within Iraq and elsewhere. A white flag, in short, means a white flag in the war on terror.

Prime Minister Maliki, when he spoke before Congress, made it clear that Iraq remains a central pivot in the war on terror, because it is where many terrorist groups are going to test the will of the American people and also of the international community. This president does not intend and will not walk away from the promises he has made.

The other thing you might want to take in -- now expand the view a little bit, because I think one of the arguments that is now being knocked around is whether in fact we're seriously engaged in a war on terror. Let's take a look at the global situation. You have Iran remaining not only stubborn in the face of the international community saying that Iran needs to suspend nuclear activities, but also encouraging the destruction of Israel and continuing to serve as a financier and organizer of terrorist organizations around the world.

We know that North Korea also poses certain threats. We know that terrorist organizations around the world have already expressed their desire to disrupt democracy and also to disrupt civilization in many places, including Indonesia, India, Pakistan; Amman, Jordan. We remember the bombings also in Madrid and London. It's a serious battle. Hezbollah remains also an independent actor which is operating with the support of Iran and Syria, firing not only Katyushas but Zelzal rockets into Israel, with the desire not only of fomenting larger hostilities but also hoping to destabilize the prospects for democracy in the region.

The reason I say the stakes are high, it's an important debate to have. And it is clear that at least some of the leadership in the Democratic Party believes that the proper way to address this is to point a finger at the United States and to counsel walking away.

The view of the president is that this is a challenge, but it is also an opportunity. And let me outline that part.

Democracies operate on different principles than totalitarian states. In a democracy, you have to respond to the will of the people. In a democracy within the United States, whether it be Joe Lieberman and Ned Lamont competing for votes in Connecticut or on the local level dealing with the needs for people to have safe streets, good schools and services they can depend upon, those are the things -- you respond to the state desires of the people. In totalitarian states, the despot alone has the opportunity to declare what he or she wants to do, and frankly, quite often they are much more war-like.

The president believes, and history will bear him out, that free and democratic states are far more peaceful and create the basis and opportunity, especially in an unstable part of the world, for economic, social, political ties that in the long run are going to be a lot closer than they are today. So those are some of the issues that are raised.

As for -- the president has no comment on the winner or loser of the race. That is for the Democratic Party and Democratic voters in the state of Connecticut. But it is also clear because of the attention being paid to it that there is a significant political argument under way, and it's one that I think is as important for the American people to have -- I say "I think" -- that the administration thinks is important for the American to have.

And with that, I will take questions.

...

QUESTION: On Lieberman. Are you telling us you now want to make the November election a referendum on the Democrat's position on the IraQUESTION: war?

SNOW: No, I'm saying that there's some Democrats who have said that the key issue is leaving and that there are some elements within the Democratic Party who are pushing hard to say, "Look, if you don't agree with us, you no longer belong in the party." You know, you take a look at the pillage today, they're pretty hot.

And the real question for the American people to ask themselves is, do you take the war on terror seriously with all the developments going on around the word? And if so, how do you fight it to win?
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 03:09 PM
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16. His implications about Bush are clear here
Bush stood down against Osama, so Osama was RIGHT ABOUT REPUKES. They are WEAK because they refuse to try to find the man they claimed bombed the WTC.

I stopped reading there, because the idiot just implicated his own president. If he thinks Americans aren't going to read the same thing into his words he is an ignoramus without a clue about Americans.

That's the nice thing about this race. The Repukes think this is 1986 or 1990 and that we haven't been traumatized and exhausted by all of their failures and policies. they are in a vacuum of their own choosing. No one cares what they think or say.

Dumb move for them, but good for America.
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