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Superman Returns Donating Member (804 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:06 PM
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Evan Bayh endorses Lamont!
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2006/08/lieberman_concedes_connecticut.html

"Senator Bayh supported Senator Lieberman in the primary because of his respect for Senator Lieberman's service and their long friendship," said Bayh spokesman Dan Pfeiffer. "The Democratic voters of Connecticut have spoken, and Senator Bayh respects their choice and will support their nominee."
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:06 PM
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1. And so it starts
Bayh just earned a Stinky Point for that.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:09 PM
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2. Did He Hold His Nose
I wonder?

Really, it's the only thing to do.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:10 PM
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3. it doesn't matter how he did
the important thing is that he did

now I want to see the others who campaigned for him do the same
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:10 PM
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4. He gets a point from me too!
I suppose we can't expect Lani Davis, Al From, or Marshall Whittman to endorse the Democratic nominee.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:27 PM
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18. nobody knows who those people are
people know who Evan Bayh is. and hopefully the fact that a conservative leaning Dem is not supporting Lieberman will get other conservative leaning Dems in Connecticut(i doubt there are many) to support the party nominee instead of Joe.
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:11 PM
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5. Evan is working hard in Ia and spending some dough.
He wants to be pres, and this race was a bellwether on centrism.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:20 PM
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12. "Ia" or "IN" ??
Kudos for Bayh; he just earned some cred w/ a number of people. (Good move on his part, really.)

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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:20 PM
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14. Iowa
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:24 PM
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17. Heh. Already campaigning, is he?
Oh well; that's a looong way off. We have a mid-term to deal with.
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:29 PM
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21. Yes and paying for staffers for local candidates.
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tulip Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:52 PM
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59. actually they're internships
http://www.thedatabank.com/dpg/113bayh/

Bayh's All America PAC is paying for internships working in campaigns around the country. The PAC has also paid for campaign training for folks who are interested in running for office or working on a campaign. I think the cost was 40.00 for 3 days training and it included lunch. Everyone I have spoken to had great things to say about the program. Hope more Dems offer this kind of training.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:11 PM
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7. And a Hawk point for that.
That's one DLC down. about half to go..
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:11 PM
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8. Those Are Good Things, Sir, Right?
"There will be a holiday in our street soon!"
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:56 PM
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40. Right, Indeed
Stinky Points have great value
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:49 AM
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47. Thought So, Sir
"With a name like Smuckers, it's got to be good!"
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:22 PM
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63. Amen, and just as we expected
What's wrong with this picture? Nothing.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:11 PM
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6. There ya go. A very deft move by Indiana's junior senator.
Didn't waste any time, either.

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joemurphy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:13 PM
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9. Evan senses a shift in the wind. His nose smells something new.
Evan hasn't an ounce of conviction in his body. He is the opportunist par excellance. Evan's statement means only that he thinks there may be something in the works.

I've been watching Evan Bayh for a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time.
Trust me on this.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:17 PM
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11. Yep
I agree. Like Hillary, when she said "I'll support the Democrat" - it may or may not have been what they "wanted" to do, but all they know is if they want to stand a chance in '08, they need the kind of people that voted for Lamont - meaning people that actually WILL VOTE in primaries in the first place.

Smart move on Bayh's part, though I'd say it should be the obvious move.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:30 PM
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22. at least she did it in advance of the primary
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:23 PM
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16. Good point. It was easy to identify Lieberman as a problem ...
... but differentiation will be tougher as the DLC centrists begin to cloak their true intent.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:34 PM
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24. Amen Joe!
Your description is is perfect. Evan wants to be Prez more than anything in this world. It is the only thing he has ever wanted and he will do or say whatever gets him there.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:15 PM
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10. good news
:thumbsup:
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TwentyFive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:20 PM
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13. JLieberman can only distract from the effort to take the Senate back.
For the good of the party and the country...he needs to leave the building, now.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:21 PM
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15. Haven't bought into Bayh, and still not "Bayh-ing".
Will never forget how he described the Iraq invasion as "morally superior," and "noble," at a Senate hearing that was supposed to hold Rumsfeld accountable for the horrors of Abu Ghraib. And the way he was gazing at Rumsfeld... I couldn't help but think, "Geez, get a room."
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:29 PM
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19. I think the Bush lites have gotten the message n/t
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:29 PM
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20. I like this paragraph
Unwittingly, Lieberman's son -- Matt -- evoked a painful memory when he told the crowd: "This is a campaign with exciting momentum going forward." Lieberman was widely ridiculed for calling his fifth-place showing in the 2004 New Hampshire presidential primary a three-way tie for third.
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Canuck55 Donating Member (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:33 PM
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23. posturing
Edited on Tue Aug-08-06 11:33 PM by Canuck55
the money bet is on whether Kristol, the NRO or a (D) will endosre his Indy bid first. By morning many of the last option on their summer recess will find that endorsement rather toxic.
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evilkumquat Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:35 PM
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25. Bayh, You CHICKENSHIT!
He had a chance (as did many) to make the call BEFORE the Primary...

But, like a good, little Partisan, he waited until he knew who won.

CHICKENSHIT!

Evil Kumquat
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:44 PM
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31. I don't fault sitting Senators for supporting Lieberman in the primary
It's not nice to support a fellow senators opponent in a primary. You wouldn't want it done to you.
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evilkumquat Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:59 PM
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41. "Nice"? Hell! I Am Talking About Integrity!
Just once, I want one of the "good" guys to have the integrity to do or say what needs to be done without worrying first about the cloying, clammy embrace of partisanship.

I would have loved for Bayh to have said, "Well, as a Democrat, I'm supposed to root for the incumbent. But frankly, I hope Joe doesn't win because his lips are so chapped from kissing Bush's ass he needs more Vaseline than the makeup department on a porn film starring Ann Coulter and Michelle Malkin*."

But, sigh, I know that is not being practical on my part. I just want SOMEONE to be a friggin' grownup in government.

Evil Kumquat
_____________________________

*The joke here is that their boxes are very, very dry.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:08 PM
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62. Integrity = supporting the decision of those residing in Conneticut.
eom
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 06:09 AM
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51. Give Bayh credit
it's important for Lamont to get support early on this process.

You can't expect sitting Sens to endorse challengers during a primary.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:07 PM
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61. Chickenshit? PULEEZE. That's what we do as a political party.
It's called "let the people decide" and have confidence and their choice.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:36 PM
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26. Just like Bayh to support the wrong thing.
Edited on Tue Aug-08-06 11:39 PM by RUMMYisFROSTED
Again.





Eta: I wonder if Bayh gets the message...

P.P.S.Eta: Supporting Joeloseem being the wrong thing. Bayh....You're next!
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Superman Returns Donating Member (804 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:42 PM
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29. what are you talking about?
He endorsed Lamont. :)
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:45 PM
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33. Huh?
Read again
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:50 PM
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34. It took 6 minutes to post that?
Edited on Tue Aug-08-06 11:53 PM by RUMMYisFROSTED
(Look above, it's in red.)


There is a time stamp on the edit time.

There is a time stamp on your post time.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:52 PM
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36. I'm confused about what you are saying.
The OP says that Bayh supports Lamont. You say Bayh supports Lieberman. What am I missing?
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:56 PM
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39. My "edit to add" comments.
I edited 6 minutes before you posted.

Alles clare?
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Pepper32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:52 PM
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35. Weird
Are you ok?
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Iniquitous Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:36 PM
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27. Connecticut Democrats thank you, Evan Bayh!
:toast:

We need more of you! Come out and publicly support our party's Democratic nominee.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:40 PM
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28. Good for him. (nt)
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:42 PM
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30. That's awesome
Thanks Mr. Bayh
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:44 PM
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32. It's the right thing to do.
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:53 PM
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37. This should be a no-brainer.
The citizens of Connecticut just told the Democratic Party shape up or get the hell out.

To endorse any candidate but a Democrat would be in the short run, a slap in the face to the Connecticut voters. In the long run, it's political suicide.
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CrushTheDLC Donating Member (448 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:55 PM
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38. While I'm no fan of Evan Bayh, I applaud him for doing the right thing....
...in this case. Let's see how many of his fellow DLC'ers follow suit. So far we have Bayh on record for Lamont, Carper on record to support Holy Joe.

Any other members of the mob on record?
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:05 AM
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42. I think Evan Bayh wants my vote!!
Edited on Wed Aug-09-06 12:22 AM by flaminbats
first he comes out in support of abolishing the Electoral College and now he has the courage to endorse Ned. if he embraces a position on healthcare reform that I like, he'll become my favorite for 2008.
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Ouabache Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:18 AM
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44. Say what you want, Evan ain't no dummy
His daddy and mommy didn't raise no fool.
And he went to law school at the University Thomas Jefferson built.
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:26 AM
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45. who said Evan is no dummy? n/t
:shrug:
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WatchWhatISay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:15 AM
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43. Count me as surprised and impressed.
Such a good looking man, but I often wonder about his brains.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:28 AM
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46. Bayh's a wise man...he knows not to touch this with a ten-foot pole.
Going expressly against the wishes of the people who put you into office. :banghead:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:59 AM
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48. Good! Bye is a Democrat......
and so it goes!

Why would an elected Democrat NOT support the winner of a Democratic Primary? :shrug:
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:33 AM
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49. Evan Bayh is a very good person, and a fine Senator.
I've heard him talk, have met the man in person, and have talked with him.

He has integrity, honesty, and is more progressive than he votes in the Senate. Remember, he is a Senator from Indiana, the 12th most Republican state in the country.

I will not criticize Evan Bayh. His immediate support for Ned Lamont shows just how principled he is.

Good for you, Senator Bayh.

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johnlal Donating Member (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 06:08 AM
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50. Bayh should be nervous
It's interesting to see Bayh and Clinton first with their support. They should be nervous about the Lieberman loss and what it means to us. Seriously, I think we should judge each candidate by their strengths and weaknesses, but I would seriously consider disbanding the DLC at this point.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 06:37 AM
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52. And he and Joe were honorary co-chairs of Committee to Liberate Iraq.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 07:16 AM
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53. I just asked Barbara Boxer if she will issue a statement supporting Lamont
Will the Dems who supported Lieberman now do the right thing and show their support for representative government? Will they respect the voters?
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DallasNE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 07:49 AM
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54. Evan Bayh, Not My Favorite Senator,
Has it exactly right this time. The votes have spoken. It is time to honor their wishes. You get one chance each election cycle. Last night was Lieberman's chance. He came in second. It is time for him to move on to the next phase of his life. That does not mean a do over this November.

Give it up Joe. It is not about you. It is about the voters in Connecticut. Their choice was Ned Lamont.
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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 08:01 AM
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55. Talk is cheap, show-up and campaign for Ned.
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PhilipDC Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 08:48 AM
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56. Bayh
Too bad Indiana is stuck with Evan rather than his father.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 11:28 AM
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57. He did the right thing.
I don't much care for Senator Bayh, but credit where credit is due.
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tulip Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 11:57 AM
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58. Bayh Has Always Made It Clear
Edited on Wed Aug-09-06 12:07 PM by tulip
he would support Lieberman in the primary as did several other Senators. I never doubted that he wouldn't give support to Lamont should he win. There are two types of loyality in question. 1) friendship 2) loyalty to the Democratic party. Loyalty to the party will always win out, that's were Joe made his mistake. He wasn't as loyal to the party as he should have been.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:06 PM
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60. Why does it surprise anyone that Democrats would support our nominees?
eom
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