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MsMagnificent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 09:52 AM
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Lamont vs. Lieberman: For the Sake of the Party
Edited on Tue Aug-08-06 10:25 AM by MsMagnificent
To date, I've not gotten into the Connecticut Lieberman/Lamont discussion because it's not my state and I've felt I should have no voice in their decision. I figured I had no dog in that fight.

But more and more I've realized that indeed I, a New Yorker transplanted to Ohio yet a Democrat, do have a dog in there -- and he's a pretty damn big dog too.

Seems the message being screeched from the anti-Lamonters, whether Republican or Democrat (or DINO) all proclaim their serious misgivings on how terribly dangerous for the Democrats and the Democratic Party it would be if Lieberman were defeated in the primary.

It is my opinion, for what it's worth, that this is probably the healthiest thing the Democratic Party has done in a long, long time.

It is finally reminding our incumbent politicians that they are responsible to their electorate. And better yet, it is holding them obligated and accountable for their actions performed on our behalf.
With real teeth, not futile lip service.

What exactly is wrong with reinforcing that their agendas for their own person --State or National, present & future political, personal, professional-- are #1: secondary to performing on The People's behalf as they were elected to do, and #2: are nothing without the approval of, and working satisfactorily for, their constituents in their represented state.

In fact, that it's not done more often is much a cause for concern than it hardly happening at all.
And I hope, in future, it occurs much more often. Dognose there are plenty of Democratic politicians (and all the Republicans -- MO of course : ) who drastically need to learn this lesson.

They are not, once elected, granted a permanent franchise to their seat. They have no imaginable right to an automatic pass on a referendum to garner the continued approval of their party to run another term. Amazingly, they appear to believe they are so empowered as evidenced by their moaning and very verbal, public distress (if not downright victim-hood)! How could they possibly think that could be so, and why should they feel so sanctioned and indulged? Are they not 'Representatives of the People'? If they do not represent said People --at least the majority thereof-- should that take second seat to the mere fact they were elected at least once in the past?
Hardly!

Our elected representatives seem to feel they are entitled. They think they should be so imminently secure in their seats, once elected, that they can do whatever they want to without 'the mob' (as some refer to their constituents) daring to complain against their august person. But who put them in the position of feeling that they should be held in such honor (if not actually being in such a state)?
Why do they demand (in every way short of actually coming right out and declaring so) that since 'The People' backed them once therefore they should always be supported?

If any of us were hired to do a specific job with definitive, delineated duties as directed by our boss(es) --who, after all, is the one who signs our paycheck--
and instead we decided to ignore those specific criteria; rather, to merely do only what we felt like doing and discount or downright ignore what the people who hired us intentions and desires were (unless our bosses were vacillating, ineffectual, absent-minded failures themselves replete with short attention spans and the backbone of an overcooked noodle)
we wouldn't have our jobs very long.

Representing their constituency is their job. The primary is Part I of their job and performance review and it's a Pass/Fail to acquire the right to the next step.
It's something we in the reality based world must contend with every day -- we must please those who employ us or suffer the consequences.
We're not entitled to keep our job... that's one of the reasons it's called Work, we have to work to keep it.
If we don't satisfy, we're terminated. It couldn't be simpler.

What is wrong with holding OUR employee to the same standards that operate in the real world?
What is wrong with holding ALL our employees to these same standards?
Especially without the attempted manipulation and hypocritical, hysterical clucking of those who have absolutely no business interfering?

It is FOR the sake, and rightness, and honor, of the Democratic Party that this rightly contested, to wit: Lamont vs. Lieberman, primary take place.
And may the true 'good guys' finally start winning.


A preemptive apology: I'm not an eloquent person. It's a struggle to compose a concise, exact sentence that conveys the meant thoughts and feelings of what's really important. I hope you can forgive the tortured, horrific grammar and see beyond to understand the reasoning and whatever 'philosophy' is there; whether you agree with it or not.
Edit: Arrgh, yet more grammar!
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 10:01 AM
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1. fantastic!! this is the most important lesson from CT
Edited on Tue Aug-08-06 10:03 AM by welshTerrier2
truly a great post ... the "ruling class" has to learn that no one "owns" a Senate seat ... every 6 years, the voters get a say ... some seem to believe there is an "entitlement" ... it's not even about whether an incumbent did or didn't do a good job; it's about letting the voters have a choice ... frankly, a healthy process would demand that there was always at least one challenger to every incumbent ...

and the party should do everything it can to demand spending limits during the primaries ... until we can get public financing of all campaigns, it seems to me we should at least enforce this policy within our own party ... is that legal? i have no idea ...

i couldn't be happier to see the war play such a prominent role in the CT primary ... i hope the Democratic Party decides to take a real stand on the war after today's results are known ... but, the OP really hit the bigger issue squarely on the head: our leaders seem to believe they are entitled to "own" their seats in the Senate ... what could be more undemocratic than that?

K&R ... great post!!
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 10:03 AM
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3. I agree.... She got it JUST RIGHT!
Kudos!

This post belongs on the front page!



TC
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 10:02 AM
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2. Amen and Hallelujah, MsMagnificent!
What an awesome post for this day!!!!

WE ALL HAVE A DOG IN THE CT RACE.... THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY!



GO, NED!

TC
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REACTIVATED IN CT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 10:12 AM
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4. K & R - this is exactly what it is about
Our State House House Spearker James Amman was really offended that we the people wanted someone other than LIEberman as our representative. This is what I sent to the paper......

"According to a July 4 New Haven Register article, State House Speaker James A. Amann is ”aggravated that some guy named Ned ... is trying to buy himself a U.S. Senate seat”.

I have news for Speaker Amann. The voting public is more concerned about corporations buying Senate and House seats and about lobbyists owning the people who are supposed to represent us. We are aggravated by politicians who are more concerned with their own self-interest than with the will of “We the People”. If the majority of registered Democrats in Connecticut want Lamont as our Senator, then the will of the people should be respected..

If Lieberman had any principles, he would drop out of the Democratic primary and start running NOW as an independent. By staying on the ticket, he is hedging his bets and it is clear that his only interest is self-preservation "
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KKKarl is an idiot Donating Member (662 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 10:12 AM
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5. Awesome post
It is time we did not blindly send an incumbent to stand for re-election. Just because he has been there forever. The great thing about this is that Lieberman was not involved in a scandal. He did not take part in some campaign funding fraud. He did not conduct an illicit affair. All he did was side with Bush on the war. This has become a big issue for the democratic base & it is great to see that we will not stand for it anymore. Watch out Hilary or you will be next.
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 10:32 AM
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6. Yes. Lieberman isn't royalty. He's supposed to be a representative.
And he hasn't been.
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 10:32 AM
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7. If Lamont win
I think the Republicans representatives will start routing.

They already near panic

Beleive me they will rout.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:19 AM
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8. It is the *US* senate, so i suppose all us have stakes in this. and
since they help shape foreign policy, the whole world has a stake in this.
Defeat the war dog.
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:30 AM
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9. Well said. You're right., they are OUR employees........
and it's time that we started treating them as such.
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