Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Think Tank Fires Fellow For Criticizing Bush

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 05:52 PM
Original message
Think Tank Fires Fellow For Criticizing Bush

Think Tank Fires Fellow For Criticizing Bush

Last month the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think-tank, fired John Hulsman. Heritage refuses to say exactly why they let him go, but the New Republic reports the “reasons for Hulsman’s departure” are “perfectly evident”; he criticized the Bush administration’s foreign policy. Hulsman previously had kept his dissent to himself, but “years of insurgency, civil war, and general chaos” in Iraq led him to speak out.

In an essay last year for The National Interest, Hulsman took issue with Bush’s policy in Iraq:

(N)eoconservatives, through their policies of expending blood and treasure for problematic gains such as Iraq, are significantly retarding America’s ability to act against the true barbarians at the gate - Al-Qaeda and Islamist extremists.


And Hulsman criticized the Bush administration’s refusal to talk to regimes it dislikes, specifically Iran:

America, on the other hand, having determined the mullahs in Iran were evil, disdained to engage them. But we cannot only conduct diplomatic relations with Canada; I have always naively thought a major reason for diplomacy was talking to those one didn’t agree with, in an effort to modify their behavior to suit one’s own national interests.

These critiques may seem mild, but as Chris Preble of the Cato Institute explains: “At Heritage, anything that smacks of criticism of Bush will not be tolerated.”

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/07/heritage-fellow


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
thepurpose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 05:58 PM
Response to Original message
1. But left is intolerant for going after Joe. Right.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 05:59 PM
Response to Original message
2. No thinking allowed in conservative think tank.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
loves_dulcinea Donating Member (384 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 05:59 PM
Response to Original message
3. grrrrrrrrrrr.
i am so pissed off. how can these people ignore such blatant truths? just continue to mouth the lies or be banished from your comfy job!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ShockediSay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 06:03 PM
Response to Original message
4. there's a ton in google about think tank connections b/n
the Abramoff lobbyist types and the funding they pay these "think tanks"

think about it a minute

who's going to pay a bunch of people a bunch of money
to sit around, think, and issue glorified term papers

unless they are using these 'front organizations' for
the distribution of propaganda profitable to the funders???
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tex-wyo-dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 08:50 PM
Original message
Bingo!
I suspect most of the time think tanks already know the ends, they are paid to figure out how to justify the means to the masses. Tactics of spinning, lies, deception, talking points, etc., etc. -- basically mind control of the masses -- are not off limits. Where do you think all of these nifty talking points that seem to be echoed by every politician, pundit and media outlet in unison come from anyway?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tex-wyo-dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 08:50 PM
Response to Reply #4
15. Bingo!
I suspect most of the time think tanks already know the ends, they are paid to figure out how to justify the means to the masses. Tactics of spinning, lies, deception, talking points, etc., etc. -- basically mind control of the masses -- are not off limits. Where do you think all of these nifty talking points that seem to be echoed by every politician, pundit and media outlet in unison come from anyway?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 06:03 PM
Response to Original message
5. How can you have any use as a 'think tank' if you refuse......
to discuss what a failure Bush and his policies have become. Everything Hulsman was advocating is mere common sense (you really don't need a 'think tank' to figure it out) and the refusal by Heritage to consider it shows the narrow views of the supposed neocon great thinkers. In my opinion the 'think tanks' and 'political pundits' should all be sent to the basement. They are totally useless.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 06:21 PM
Response to Reply #5
7. Because all they 'think' about is how to trick people into helping them.nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 06:12 PM
Response to Original message
6. "Think Tank Fires Fellow For Thinking" -- Beee-yuuu-tiful!!
When we brought you into this think tank, we didn't mean for you to actually think.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 06:21 PM
Response to Original message
8. Think tank renders self useless
When a think tank limits thinking, it is no longer a think tank.

In this particular instance, I think it was a misnomer to begin with.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AlamoDemoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 06:29 PM
Response to Original message
9. Think Tank groups like The Heritage Foundation should loose
their tax-exempt status. We now have the IRS going after churches because when they spoke out of death and destruction in Iraq, while groups like the HF enjoy free and unfettered tax-exempt status voicing their support of this immoral war. This double standard by the IRS is completely unacceptable.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 07:27 PM
Response to Reply #9
11. you can certainly have non-profit advocacy groups
and Heritage falls under that category. Without that regulation, there'd be no Sierra Club, National Organization for Women, NAACP, or any of the thousand other advocacy organizations. It is a different regulation from the one covering religious groups.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 06:31 PM
Response to Original message
10. So much for thinking... nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 07:28 PM
Response to Original message
12. Shouldn't that be a "don't-think tank"? (nt)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 08:34 PM
Response to Reply #12
14. That sounds about right. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 07:29 PM
Response to Original message
13. great strategy for encouraging thinking
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 06:41 AM
Response to Original message
16. Suck it up, beeyotch
You hang around with a group of proud-to-be-backstabbing fuckheads, and then you're surprised when they stab you in the back?

Welcome to the ultimate karmic destination of every right-winger.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 19th 2024, 06:20 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC