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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 02:46 PM
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Why does nobody question them on these numbers?
Edited on Mon Aug-07-06 02:56 PM by jenmito
Thursday, December 15, 2005

"Officials estimated about 10 million of the 15 million registered voters participated in the elections for a 275-seat parliament called the Council of Representatives."

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/12/15/iraq.elections/index.html


Saturday, August 4, 2006

RICE: "It's not civil war when 12.5 million people go out and vote for a government that bridges all of the sectarian groups. "

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14189415/page/2/


At first the standard line was 10 million Iraqis voted. I noticed over time it became "over 10 million" then "11 million" then "OVER 11 million." NOW they're saying 12 1/2 million iraqis voted. Condoleezza Rice said it on Hardball Thursday to David Gregory and to George Stephanopoulos yesterday. And today BUSH claimed 12 million Iraqis voted. Are they allowed to just keep changing the numbers like that???



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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 02:48 PM
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1. Diebold can do anything. Anywhere. Any time! n/t
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 02:49 PM
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2. But in IRAQ? n/t
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 03:05 PM
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5. Under the Bush regime, yeah. n/t
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 03:08 PM
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7. But they supposedly weren't involved in Iraq's elections...
Yet they keep changing the numbers about how many Iraqis voted. Also, they didn't like the guy they voted for (al Jafarri) so our admin. pressured them into finding a new guy-al Maliki.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 03:20 PM
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15. Yeah, they never lie. n/t
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 03:27 PM
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16. I KNOW they lie...
But why doesn't SOMEONE point out their inflated numbers? It bugged me enough when they started changing it to 11 million. Now it's up to 12 1/2 million?!
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 02:50 PM
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3. On their face, those two statements are consistent.
"Ten to 15 million" later refined to "12-1/2 million" isn't inconsistent.

Do you have any sources for some interim statements that differ from the 12.5 million? That'd be fun to read.

I agree with you ..... these people alwys throw some shit out there and then refine it as they read the polls they say they never read. Doesn't matter the topic. They **always** refine the propaganda.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 02:55 PM
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4. It didn't say 10 to 15 million...
It said 10 million OF the 15 million registered voters. Well, I have these links:

"More than 10 million Iraqis – an estimated 70% of registered voters – voted in the December 15 election
for a four-year Iraqi parliament."

www.war-times.org/pdf/WTMiR-Dec05.pdf



"11 million voted in December, 2005 for the first permanent parliament. This in a country with just 14 million adults."

http://hnn.us/blogs/entries/22494.html


Thursday, February 16, 2006; A26

"THE 11.9 MILLION Iraqis who voted in December's parliamentary election might be excused for wondering whether that democratic exercise will ever bring about a tangible change in their government."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...1502318_pf.html
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 03:36 PM
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17. Hahahaha
The vote count goes up as the population declines

'10 of 15 million total'

"This in a country with just 14 million adults" (Does that mean just one million children?)(Does this reflect collateral damage?)

I feel brain dead today .....
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 03:41 PM
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18. This admin. just says whatever it wants...
They say Iraq has 25 million people. So if there are 15 million voters, there are 10 million non-voters. How many of them are children??? I don't believe ANY of their numbers.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 03:08 PM
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6. But this is wrong as It is now Aug-not December.
RICE: "It's not civil war when 12.5 million people go out and vote for a government that bridges all of the sectarian groups. "
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 03:10 PM
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9. Very true...
They seem to like to live in the past while revising history at the same time and ignoring the present and future.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 03:08 PM
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8. Tell that to Abraham Lincoln...nt
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 03:10 PM
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10. What part? n/t
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 03:12 PM
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11. This...
"It's not civil war when 12.5 million people go out and vote for a government that bridges all of the sectarian groups. "

That election of 1860 really stopped things...

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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 03:18 PM
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13. Oh. Ok-makes sense. Thanks for clarifying. n/t
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 03:15 PM
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12. Nobody questions them on anything. Haven't you noticed?
It doesn't matter. They pulled the entire election out of their asses. What difference does it make what number they quote?

Reminds me of the great movie, The Manchurian Candidate, when the idiot Senator has accused Congress members of being Communists but his Angela Lansbury, his wife, keeps changing the number of members he accuses and he can't keep it straight so he begs her to pick a number. She sees a bottle of Heinz 57 Sauce on the table so it becomes 57 Congressional members.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 03:19 PM
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14. Yes, I've noticed...
But can't we at LEAST get attention drawn to it from somewhere? MediaMatters maybe?
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