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Gully Foyle Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 03:02 PM
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McKinney challenger says 'Arab surnames' of donors mean 'I could say she's
Edited on Fri Aug-04-06 03:05 PM by Gully Foyle
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/VIDEO__Opponent_implies_Rep._McKinney_0804.html
Video: McKinney challenger says 'Arab surnames' of donors mean 'I could say she's under the control of terrorists'

David Edwards
Published: Friday August 4, 2006

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During a debate with Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney (D-GA), primary challenger Hank Johnson alluded to the "Arab surnames" of some McKinney supporters before saying, "I could accuse her of being under the control of terrorists," RAW STORY has learned.

McKinney had criticised Johnson for receiving money from Republican contributors, indicating that his participation in the primary was benefitting the party.

A video of the exchange can be viewed below.


( Did I get this right? Newbie, doncha know)

I've posted other examples of Anti-Arab racism aimed at McKinney and how it was rooted in both her denial of AIPAC money and her Pro-Palestinian legislation.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 03:03 PM
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1. ....Wow
That's out there even by Republican standards. Ugh.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 03:08 PM
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2. And Johnson's supposed to be a Democrat!
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 03:10 PM
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3. Supposed to be ... you said it all there,
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Gully Foyle Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 03:15 PM
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5. I might add
Edited on Fri Aug-04-06 03:16 PM by Gully Foyle
for those who haven't watched the video that McKinney points out hank's accepting REPUBLICAN funding.
hank's terrorist claim was in reply to McKinney stating she would get the money to fund no child left behind by ending the war.
Then hank gives his own milquetoast answer about working with both sides of the aisle.
hank looks like a slick piece of joementum shit.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 03:47 PM
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24. It's all right! That money could have gone to Greens.
:rofl:

I'm sorry. I couldn't help it.

Oh dear. That's one dirty kitchen, isn't it? :)
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 03:13 PM
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4. Despicable. n/t
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 03:15 PM
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6. I for one LOVE Congresswoman McKinney!
I hope that the democrats of her district have the good sense and discernment to reelect her. She is one fine woman!
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 03:16 PM
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7. McKinney is going to lose, though
At this stage, her campaign looks critical.
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Gully Foyle Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 03:19 PM
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8. Um
You really think when this hits the news it won't torpedo hank?
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 03:19 PM
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9. Really, has he checked out Bush's donor list to apply that same "logic?"
"Wadda morAn."
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Gully Foyle Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 03:21 PM
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10. Dude
Edited on Fri Aug-04-06 03:23 PM by Gully Foyle
Watch the video. McKinney points out hank accepts REPUBLICAN donations.
hank don't care.
This must have come from a morning or afternoon debate. Still very fresh.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 03:25 PM
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11. Racist. (nt)
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 03:28 PM
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14. Good call.
NT!

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KaptBunnyPants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 03:32 PM
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17. No other possible explanation.
Edited on Fri Aug-04-06 03:36 PM by KaptBunnyPants
That is so disgusting, accusing all Arabs of being defacto terrorists. If we had a free and fair press, that kind of racial slander would never be accepted in this day and age, but I bet this will quickly be swept under the rug.

On edit: Imagine if some candidate said that accepting Jewish contributions implicitly meant that their opponent was controlled by Israel.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 03:27 PM
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12. So Johnson's another Majette?
Another pro-corporate asshole who takes Republican aid and uses the same rhetoric as the b*s* administration?

Anyone got poll numbers on this race? I'd like to think Democrats in that district aren't stupid enough to pick a Republican-aided smear jockey over a pillar of progressive strength.

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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 03:29 PM
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15. Majette had the most liberal voting record for Georgia
House reps.. including John Lewis.

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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 03:41 PM
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22. Does that negate her Republican support? No.
Nader is very liberal-minded, yet is rightfully excoriated for accepting Republican money.

As far as "most liberal", I'll have to look into that, since that's NOT my recollection of her record (and I don't just take people's word for granted).

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Janice325 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 03:28 PM
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13. I live in her district.
It makes me want to vote for her all the more. That jab seems like a typical Rethug "terra, terra, terra" response. :puke:
Thanks for the link.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 03:59 PM
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28. So, what other reasons do you have for voting for her
What do you like about her and not like about Johnson. Just asking, since you've idenified yourself as a constituent.
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Janice325 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 04:59 PM
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53. Not for really well thought out reasons like some folks here
Mainly 'cause she makes Rethugs go nuts off on a tangent,IMO. My logic tells me that if they dislike her and want her out so much, she must be doing something right.
Also, I'm disturbed about Johnson's previous financial problems,here from the ajc.com/newss, August 1, 2006:

"Johnson acknowledged that he had financial problems involving nonpayment of taxes and had filed for bankruptcy several years ago..."
Here's the link:
http://www.ajc.com/news/content/metro/dekalb/stories/0731metdebate.html?imw=Y
As a taxpayer,it really bugs the crap out of me when supposedly intelligent folks (Mr. Johnson is an attorney, after all) don't pay their taxes.
I know people can have financial problems, but people entering the political arena should know in advance that everything in their background is fair game and going to be scrutinized.
Thanks for asking, LittleClarkie; :hi:
Just my two cents.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 03:30 PM
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16. I watched the whole thing and when viewed in context
Edited on Fri Aug-04-06 03:39 PM by OKNancy
it is not what this is all about. I

Edit: in fact rawstory is trying to sensationalize this and being dishonest.

Mckinney accuses him of being in control of landfill operators because he took money from them.

He says, I did not and I could say because you took money from Arab surnames that you are in control of terrorists ( exact quote) " but that just does not make sense".

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Gully Foyle Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 03:33 PM
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18. WTF?
"not what this is about? Viewed in context?
Just what video did you see?
He stated so CLEARLY the moderator reprimanded him.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 03:35 PM
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20. read my edit.
I watched it.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 05:33 PM
Response to Reply #18
62. Watch the video while you're at it. n/t
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KaptBunnyPants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 03:39 PM
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21. That does not excuse him at all.
He explicitly equates being Arab with being a terrorist. Is that acceptable to you?
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 03:47 PM
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25. He could have used a less inflammatory counter-example
He may have been wanting to sneak in an insinuation, while providing himself cover that he wasn't. It is one of those cases where you wonder if he was being too stupid or too clever.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 03:56 PM
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27. I agree
I think he was trying to sneak it in, but I don't think it was a bigoted comment, just sneaky and dirty politics. McKinney did it too, so that's the game they are playing.
My problem is with this sensationalized headline from rawstory.
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Left Coast Lynn Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 04:07 PM
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29. " rawstory is trying to sensationalize this and being dishonest"
Gasp!

Raw should be banned from DU IMO.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 04:09 PM
Response to Reply #16
30. That is exactly correct...
And you included the full quote!
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 04:15 PM
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31. Goodness, what a fine smear. Worthy of the Vets for Truth
He countered an accusation he considered over the top by giving an example of an accusation he could level at McKinney that would make about as much sense.

How nice of them to leave out "but that just does not make sense."

Disingenous indeed.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 04:19 PM
Response to Reply #31
32. perhaps, but that exact charge against McKinney
*has* been made on DU.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 04:20 PM
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34. So what does that have to do with the Raw article? NT
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 04:19 PM
Response to Reply #31
33. Well, we don't want to spoil any of this righteous indignation with some
real facts, do we?
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 04:27 PM
Response to Reply #33
36. Nah, we live on half truths
It's always amazing to me how many people will take the word of a post on DU over going and looking for themselves and engaging their brains long enough to come up with their own conclusion. So much easier to swallow the red meat whole.
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KaptBunnyPants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 04:33 PM
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38. I still don't see how that makes it much better.
She said that taking money from contractors makes him beholden to contractors. It's a debatable point, but no one seems to have a problem when people use that argument against Bush. The meat of the story is that he felt an appropriate comparison to that argument is taking money from Arabs makes her beholden to terrorists. Even in context, the only way that comparison works is if Arabs=terrorists. Could someone please explain to me a non-racist interpretation of that comparison?
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 04:37 PM
Response to Reply #38
39. If you're pointing out that your opponent's claim is false and outrageous
you should use the most outrageous comparison you can.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 04:47 PM
Response to Reply #39
44. And I still can't get anyone to explain to me what's so horrible about
Johnson except that he's running against McKinney. That makes him a shill and a Hank(kercheif)Head.

That all by itself? Or does anyone have another reason why he's heinous and beyond contempt.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 04:50 PM
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46. I'm as much in the dark about it as you are.
:shrug:
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 04:56 PM
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50. I don't understand those who support Johnson merely for not being
McKinney either, to be fair. I mean, support Johnson or support McKinney, but do we have to vilify one or the other?

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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 04:43 PM
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40. Johnson broke the rules of the debate in order to revive the issue.
He's a lawyer and he knew damned well that it was an indirect smear.

The audience knew it too. :puke:
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 04:44 PM
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41. That debate had rules?? NT
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 04:48 PM
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45. The debate on this thread does, so why are you changing the subject?
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 04:50 PM
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47. They both broke the rules, repeatedly. NT
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 04:54 PM
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48. Johnson injected the "surname/terrorist" issue into the debate as a smear.
Do you deny it, or will you continue to dance?
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 04:56 PM
Response to Reply #48
49. And her remarks were not? They were pretty much BOTH full of shit.
Sad excuse for a debate.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 04:59 PM
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54. Accepting money from GOP=accepting money from"terrorist". Same impact
on voters. I see. :eyes:
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 05:02 PM
Response to Reply #54
58. Even when he said, after the statement, "but that just does not make
sense"?
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 05:09 PM
Response to Reply #58
59. So why did he bring it up? He knows damn well that "terrorist" have
never contributed to Cynthia's campaign. He also knows that he has accepted GOP money.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 04:27 PM
Response to Reply #16
35. I saw the debate and your edit is correct.
Edited on Fri Aug-04-06 04:32 PM by AtomicKitten
It was taken entirely out of context.

Rawstory also had a piece from the Washington Times today about Lamont having Wal*Mart stock at the same time slamming them.

S-E-N-S-A-T-I-O-N-A-L-I-S-M

But, as always a launching pad for some.

On edit: And off they go .... not even caring what the truth is.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 04:46 PM
Response to Reply #35
42. Johnson slyly slipped the "surname" issue into the debate by breaking the
rules. Even the audience was annoyed at his tactics.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 04:59 PM
Response to Reply #42
52. How was that different than what McKinney was trying to insinuate
Except that you like McKinney and don't like Johnson, what makes either's tactics better than the others.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 05:02 PM
Response to Reply #52
57. Please read # 54. (n/t)
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 03:33 PM
Response to Original message
19. WTF....Racist Pig!
No offense to PIGS!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 03:45 PM
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23. Now we know who the terrorists are! Us!
Somebody turn me in immediately!

I wonder how long before they just throw up a Brown Person Alert Hotline.

These people are crazy.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 03:53 PM
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26. So, Hank. How many Arab-Americans are terrorists? All? Some?
Should they be detained without trial, Hank? Tortured, Hank? Treated as second-class citizens because of their NAMES, Hank?

Get back to me with your answers, Hank.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #26
55. He was saying that her statement about him was as ludicrous
as if he would make the statement about terrorists about her. Context.
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WestSeattle2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 06:56 PM
Response to Reply #55
66. Stop confusing this issue with that annoying little thing
about "context". Putting Johnson's quote in its proper context, means they can't vilify the guy. Stop trying to confuse us with facts!!!!

:popcorn:
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 10:03 PM
Response to Reply #66
68. Oh, sorry. I'd forgotten.
He dares to challenge Ms. McKinney, hence he is the devil himself.

Ol' Hank(erchief Head) himself.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 04:28 PM
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37. Now we know the "real" Hank Johnson.
:puke: :puke: :puke:
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 04:47 PM
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43. Good for him!
She's a fucking disgrace to the party in every way.

Besides, it's not like the zombies that back McKinney aren't lying about him now.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 05:34 PM
Response to Reply #43
63. Now we know Raw Story cannot be trusted either!
Edited on Fri Aug-04-06 05:35 PM by LoZoccolo
World Net Daily of the left!
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 08:04 PM
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67. LOL!
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 04:59 PM
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51. I do believe her contender has been put up by the GOP
I think there was enough voter fraud in the primary to force a run-off and I suspect the GOP was behind it. These tactics have their mark all over them.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #51
56. I keep reading this here, but as yet no one has offered any proof.
Republicans donated to Nader in 04 and a GOP operative ran Al Sharpton's campaign in 2004. Do you think they were put up by the GOP?
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 05:10 PM
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60. I don't even like McKinney
and I think that was a low blow...Sorry, but equating Arab surnames with terrorists is racist. Even if he said, "it doesn't make sense". After all, she was attacking him over taking money from republicans and special interest groups.

Now, if she had criticized him about taking AIPAC money and he responded that she had taken money from questionable sources of Arab origin (with proof of course), then his statement may have made more sense. But even then, it's still not excusable to stereotype all Muslim names as being terrorists.

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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 05:28 PM
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61. Scandal plagued Hanky must have been trolling DU for anti CMac
Talking Points.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 05:45 PM
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64. Context is everything
Raw Story is sensationalizing this. Another example of why I won't use Raw Story.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 06:12 PM
Response to Reply #64
65. Johnson is the one who engaged in sensationalism. He revived the
"terrorist contribution" story.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 10:06 PM
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69. So all Arabs are terrorists?
Isn't that essentially what he is saying? Is this guy really a Democrat? If he gets in Congress he might switch to GOP.
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MarkDevin Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 10:08 PM
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70. According to this "good Democrat," yes they are.
:puke:
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