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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:30 PM
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Desperate Cynthia McKinney: Our Brightest Light


Cynthia McKinney is a unique presence in the Congressional Black Caucus: a genuine “movement” activist. For that reason, she is hated and feared by white racists, for whom she is the epitome of the uppity Black; by corporate America and its vicious media, whose power she does not respect; by Democratic House leadership, which abhors activist Black lawmakers more than it does Republicans; and by cowardly African Americans who feel threatened by her example of principled speech and action for social justice and world peace. That’s why it is imperative that all people of good will assist McKinney in keeping her seat from Georgia’s 4th district, just outside Atlanta.

The racists and cowards smell blood. McKinney was forced into a runoff election, set for August 8, after failing to win a clear majority in this month’s Democratic primary. Turnout was abysmal – only 60,000 voters showed up, versus 95,000 in 2004 when she took back her seat after a two year absence.

McKinney garnered 47 percent of the vote in a three-way race, only 1,500 votes ahead of second place Hank Johnson, a compliant Black Dekalb County commissioner who brags that he is a “pothole” politician who will not stir up controversy. A white businessman got more than eight percent of the vote. His share will undoubtedly wind up in Hank(erchief head) Johnson’s column, on August 8. Clearly, McKinney must bring out her troops – which takes money. Her opponent’s surprise showing has invigorated those who backed Denise Majette with tons of cash to oust McKinney in 2002, and now see another chance to rid themselves of their nemesis.

McKinney faces a solid wall of corporate media hostility, most notably from the daily newspaper monopoly Atlanta Journal-Constitution (AJC). In 2002, the AJC was an extension of Denise Majette’s successful campaign against McKinney. The paper claimed Majette was building a “biracial coalition” of voters who were tired of “civil rights-type” politics; that Black middle class voters would flock to Majette’s banner in disgust at McKinney’s activism. It didn’t happen that way. Instead, Majette won with massive white support, including loads of cross-over Republican voters. Nevertheless, the newspaper claimed to have done a post-election study that showed strong Black support for Majette. Black Commentator exposed that lie, in a November, 2002 investigative article by editor Bruce Dixon.

http://www.blackcommentator.com/193/193_cover_mckinney.html

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tom22 Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:32 PM
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1. I'm sorry: but she seems more like a dim bulb. If she loses
she dug her own grave.
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Celica Toyota Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:33 PM
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4. The race is really between McKinney and George W. Bush
Johnson is nothing more than a shill. That's why he couldn't come up with his positions on the issues when asked his positions during the debate.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:35 PM
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8. don't waste your breath
seems Cynthia isn't the only "dim" one.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 12:12 PM
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144. ..
:rofl:

Cynthia doesn't need these idiots racist, misogynists to support her. These types only like softspoken white christan male democrats who don't upset anybody.


Cynthia is one of my heroes and if anyone said some of the things I've heard said here about her in MY home or in MY presence, I would call them the racist woman-haters they truly are and throw them to the curb.

Well, there isn't a curb here. Okay. I would throw them to the gravel....


GO CYNTHIA :thumbsup:
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Celica Toyota Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:32 PM
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2. Thank you. America needs McKinney. Bush needs Johnson.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:33 PM
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3. Did you highlight these passages?
Seems you are implying people here on DU are racists for opposing her...ignoring the fact her opponent is African American as well..


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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:34 PM
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6. yes I did hightlight them
and if the shoe fits, it fits.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:34 PM
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:36 PM
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9. to each his/her own..................
Ignorant is as ignorant does.

I don't recall begging for your commentary.

There's a little thingy next to the subject matter that you may want to click.

Have a good evening. :hi:
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:37 PM
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11. You posted this drivel....
Don't expect not to be called on this bullshit
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:38 PM
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13. and don't expect me to kindly ask you to move on
your comments have been noted.

Or do you intend to follow me around with a pooper scooper.

Have a good evening. :hi:
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:40 PM
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17. I intend to call you on your bullshit...
Assuming this thread is around much longer
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:41 PM
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18. ok; you've called me on my "bullshit".
happy?

have a cookie.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:54 PM
Response to Reply #17
33. Why wouldn't it be?
It's an opposing viewpoint. It won't be deleted if folks can keep things civil. Any intent on your part not to keep it civil?
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:50 PM
Response to Reply #11
25. Well, it would be nice to see a discussion of the article that didn't
include insulting language.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:58 PM
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39. Look at post #3 and #6...
And perhaps you can see my objection
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:59 PM
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44. and I want to thank you for giving such a huge boost to my thread
:hi:
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:01 PM
Response to Reply #39
46. I've logged my own objections
Hopefully in a civil and thoughtful manner, however.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 03:22 AM
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217. Drivel? The Black Commentator is drivel?
Maybe you are thinking of dribble, which is what athletes do at a ballgame--oops, wrong kind of ballgame. I'm remembering you bragging about going to a ballgame as black folks--and white folks--were dying in New Orleans because our government refused to let them leave or supply them with food, water, or medicine. As we were watching on tv as these people were begging for their lives you shrugged them off. Now tell me what is drivel. On second thought, your perspective is a bit off and I'm not really concerned with anything that you have to say.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:37 PM
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10. Condi, Blackwell, Colon Pile, Clarence Thomas, ad nauseum
Just because her opponent is black doesn't necessarily make him pro black, let alone progressive.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:39 PM
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15. Doesn't make them racist either...
It is outrageuous demogoguery to imply that someone we are racist because we are supporting another candidate....

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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:02 PM
Response to Reply #15
49. So voting for Hitler,Lester Maddox or Mugabe doesn't make one a racist?
Unless Johnson disavows Neal Boortz support then he's just as anti black as "mighty whitey".
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:04 PM
Response to Reply #49
51. Simple question...
IF you oppose McKinney does that automatically make you a racist? Yes or No!
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:17 PM
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71. I think it leads one to start asking questions about racism
What other reason is there? She's too liberal? She got into a fight with a white cop? She alleged that Chimpy's dad was war profiteer? What real reason is there to be against her except she's an outspoken black woman? Gee, like she's even close to being the worst congressperson?

I'll always support her for her courage against the Bush regime.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:21 PM
Response to Reply #71
76. Given her poll numbers...
I would say there are many reasons to oppose her. As apparently do her constituents
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:24 PM
Response to Reply #76
80. Name a real reason?
Don't hide behind DIEBOLD enabling polls. What evil thing has Cynthia done? Hit a white cop who touched her? Why did the grand jury let her go? Where was the film?
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 11:15 AM
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198. She brought in Farrakhan to campaign for her
and refused to disavow his bigotted comments in regards to both gays and Jews. That is one good, non racist reason to oppose her.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 11:37 AM
Response to Reply #15
140. Well, if that other candidate is further right, supports a right-wing tax
proposal, supports staying in a war that is killing African American troops for no reason, and is backed by a newspaper that calls for "post-civil rights politics", there's SOMETHING really ugly going on there...

Especially since your candidate thinks it's a valid tactic to attack his opponent's HAIRSTYLE.

There's a good chance Cynthia will be beaten. And it will be a defeat for every African American woman who wants to get into politics. They'll all get the messages "don't bother. You aren't REALLY welcome."
They'll be no way the Dems can ask for African American women to vote for them with a clear conscience.

It can't be anything but a tragedy.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 03:58 PM
Response to Reply #15
159. Please tell me WHY you would support that onion head, Hank Johnson.
Seriously. I'm all eyes.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 10:30 PM
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122. Always hilarious to see McKinney and her whoopsters play the race card...
Edited on Wed Aug-02-06 10:31 PM by MrBenchley
Too bad the anti-Semitic loony has no credibility at all along those lines....

"Of course, McKinney has long been helpful—to the Republican Party. As you know, it’s Hard Pundit Law; DC elites never discuss bizarre events from Campaign 2000. But our favorite McKinney Moment came from that race, when she called Candidate Gore a racist just as he began to pull away in the polls in September 2000. In Milbank’s column, Republican congressman David Dreier says the GOP should thank McKinney for her efforts this week. But then, they should have thanked her in 2000 too!"

http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh040606.shtml

Seems like someone's mistaken a flaming asshole for the "brightest light".


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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:03 AM
Response to Reply #122
131. Your last line is a hoot! Did you come up with that yourself or
is it borrowed?:rofl:
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 11:26 AM
Response to Reply #122
137. Let me get this straight...
you accuse McKinney of playing the race card, then call her an anti-semite...

:rofl:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 09:02 PM
Response to Reply #137
203. bwahahahahahahaha
*DUH* :silly:

:rofl:!!!!
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 12:19 PM
Response to Reply #122
146. Aren't you talking out of both sides of you mouth?
You, Sir, are not only fork-tongued, but you refuse to answer anyone's very fair questions.

Just to enlighten folks on what you said earlier today:


"Hey, it isn't moderates like me starting all these threads calling for party purges and condemning this person or that (usually a well-known and respected Democrat cruising toward re-election) because he or she isn't a "true Democrat." And just try dissenting even slightly in one of the far left's circle jerks and watch the ugly little lynch mob turn and attack".



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.phpaz=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2754318&mesg_id=2755050


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 06:19 PM
Response to Reply #146
201. Nice catch...
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 11:28 AM
Response to Reply #3
138. This appears to me, to be the only post where DU'ers are "implied"
to be racist.

In the original post, the word racist was used in this context:

The racists and cowards smell blood. McKinney was forced into a runoff election, set for August 8, after failing to win a clear majority in this month’s Democratic primary. Turnout was abysmal – only 60,000 voters showed up, versus 95,000 in 2004 when she took back her seat after a two year absence.


It was used in a generic sense referring to those who don't like movement activism and uppity (black) people.

It seems to me that those who object this language and use of the word have an ax to grind. I am not sure what it is or why they have it but in no sense do I see DU'ers being called racist.

I do see a subset of those who don't support McKinney being described as not liking uppity (black) people being called racist. And I am sure that there are plenty of non-racist people who don't support her.

But I think those who are railing against this post are way off base.

Let it go.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:33 PM
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5. Many here at DU are supporting the Neal Boortz backed candidate
"fair tax" is more Rovespeak for making the tax code even more unfair.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:52 PM
Response to Reply #5
31. Is there an article for his support?
Hank Johnson, when I looked at his site, seems suitably progressive, and also anti-Iraq War, among other things. He didn't look like a Republican lite candidate.

Perhaps Mr. Boortz is merely ABM. But I'd have to see the article y'all have been referring first to be sure. Would you have a link?
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 10:46 AM
Response to Reply #31
197. Bootz supports Johnson on his national radio show and bashes McKinney.
Boortz refers to Rep. McKinney as a "communist" and a "ghetto slut."
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 05:49 PM
Response to Reply #31
199. Some info on Hank's supporters
http://boortz.com/nuze/200607/07192006.html


Statement from Johnson campaign on Fair Tax:

Hank has expressed a willingness to carefully consider the FairTax proposal if elected to Congress...
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:37 PM
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12. Ah, so anyone who doesn't like her is a racist, anyone who...
...doesn't like Condi Rice is a racist too and hates women, anyone who doesn't support Israel's actions is an anti-Semite, and anyone who is strongly opposed to current US policies is with the terrorists... because, that IS the arguement being made here by this book.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:40 PM
Response to Reply #12
16. no, not exactly racist. not necessarily.
and no, don't exactly hate women per se.

I don't remember saying anything about Israel. :shrug:
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:41 PM
Response to Reply #16
19. Changing your tune already?
See Post #6
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:42 PM
Response to Reply #19
20. should'nt you be out saving Elmer?
Edited on Wed Aug-02-06 07:45 PM by CatWoman
I don't know what you are talking about.

I haven't changed my tune on anything.

Other than the fact that you need a new toy to play with.

:hi:

and Elmer, several blocks are addressed here:

For that reason, she is hated and feared by white racists, for whom she is the epitome of the uppity Black; by corporate America and its vicious media, whose power she does not respect; by Democratic House leadership, which abhors activist Black lawmakers more than it does Republicans; and by cowardly African Americans who feel threatened by her example of principled speech and action for social justice and world peace.

the article isn't calling everyone "racist"

:hi:
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:44 PM
Response to Reply #20
21. What I need...
Is to make sure everyone knows you believe those on DU that oppose Cynthia McKinney are racist...as you clearly stated in Post #6
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:51 PM
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Constitution Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:54 PM
Response to Reply #21
35. I find it interesting her attackers are backing the Republicans' choice
After all, the Republicans aren't sending Johnson huge donations out of the goodness of their heart.

Or do the Johnson backers believe the Republicans are good-hearted souls with the best interests of the Democratic Party behind their every move?
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:56 PM
Response to Reply #35
38. Does backing McKinney's opponent make me racist?
It is a simple question.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:07 PM
Response to Reply #38
57. Do you back him? He would seem to be a tad to the left for your tastes.
The question isn't directed at me, but just to get it out of the way, no you're not racist by default if you favor Hank over Cynthia. There would have to be more evidence than just that to label a person as such.

But do you support him? Or is he more of a ABM candidate for you?
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:12 PM
Response to Reply #57
65. I think Cyntha McKinney is an embarrasment to the Party..
And if I lived in her district I would vote for her African American opponent
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:21 PM
Response to Reply #65
77. I don't think "Cyntha" is an "embarrasment" to the party but a hero
She came out against Bushco war profiteering when no one else would. Every day she takes on corporate America 24-7, rather getting on the corporate take.
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MarkDevin Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 09:32 PM
Response to Reply #65
118. As opposed to such icons of Dem values as Joseph Lieberman?
:eyes:
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 12:28 PM
Response to Reply #65
148. YOU are an embarrasment to the party IMO
And you may not be racist, but why would you pick a black the Repukes like - such as Condi - over a Congresswoman who had received a 100% rating from the best Lib orgs?

Seems like maybe some folks are only racist against uppity blacks. If they "know their place" they are acceptable?

How stupid to play RIGHT INTO REPUBLICAN HANDS! You folks are like that stupid girl in the slasher flick who takes the garbage out when a madman is running loose. The whole audience SCREAMS at you to make a choice to save yourself, but you hum a tune and pick your toenails and OOPS! Eaten by the madman !

:rofl: maybe evolution isn't true after all. Y'all are trying to disprove it every chance you get with every word you say! :rofl:

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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 09:04 PM
Response to Reply #148
204. get em, Buddy!!!
:D

I was going to say that, but chose not to.

Thanks.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 10:57 PM
Response to Reply #204
215. Thank you Buddy and CatWoman! nt
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Constitution Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:58 PM
Response to Reply #35
41. Does it bother anyone here that the Republicans are voting for Johnson?
They are also contributing heavily to him.

I know. It is because the Republicans are such great supporters of peace and civil rights. HA! I'd hate to admit that I was one of Bush's dupes who is voting for Johnson. We must applaud the courage of those who post their support for Johnson in sites with the label "Democratic." It's sort of like going to the RNC site and asking them to back Maxine Waters.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:05 PM
Response to Reply #41
53. In 2004, Republicans in Wisconsin voted for Edwards and Kerry
in order to make sure that whoever won of the two of them, that they would have to spend money against each other and not against the Republicans. No, it doesn't trouble me, nor does it mean much. They don't like Cynthia more than they don't like Johnson. Doesn't make Johnson a shill. Make him a rather lucky guy politically, though.

Was it troubling that Republicans were cheering for Nader in 2004? Same difference I reckon.
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:21 PM
Response to Reply #41
75. That faux outrage only surfaces if it is a Green candidate I guess.
Since there are multiple threads right now about a certain Greenie Weinie in PA.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:43 PM
Response to Reply #41
97. Hank Johnson is Atlanta's answer to Joe Lieberman
A liberal area settling for a corporate sell out when the potential exists to keep a very progressive candidate in the Congress.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 09:11 PM
Response to Reply #97
113. But if your statement was taken literally it wouldn't make sense
since Hank is anti Iraq War. He's nothing like Lieberman and it seems unfair to link him with Leiberman.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 11:07 PM
Response to Reply #113
124. LIEberman is for whatever his corporate masters want him to be for
Cynthia will always have some sort of PNAC type corporate opponent's puppet running against her. This guy is the most Hankrupt.
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UDenver20 Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 11:20 AM
Response to Reply #97
135. MCKINNEY IS NO LAMONT
Let's just be real frigging clear...

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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 11:42 AM
Response to Reply #135
141. Nice try...
But you STILL won't trick Benchley into endorsing her...
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Janice325 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 11:43 PM
Response to Reply #41
127. Yes!!
It bothers me very much that the Republicans are voting for and contributing to Johnson. IMO, many Dems just seem to be ignoring that. They keep talking about what an "embarrassment" she is. Are they suddenly forgetting about Dimson???? :banghead:
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Hard_Work Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 04:15 PM
Response to Reply #35
161. It would seem
seems that the people supporting Johnson are the same people always denouncing Al Sharpton for allowing GOP'ers to contribute to his campaign. Doesn't seem right to me.
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:59 PM
Response to Reply #21
43. OK, that's just plain wrong
She didn't say that. She said that IF the shoe fits.......

If it does it does. If it doesn't it doesn't. Lots of people hate McKinney for myriad reasons. Some of them are racist. Some are corporate tools. Some are other things still.

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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:00 PM
Response to Reply #43
45. Oh please....
You have got to be kidding...
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:04 PM
Response to Reply #45
52. No I'm not kidding
She didn't say what you claim.

I will say this though. The people who get their knickers in a twist the most when someone else says "If the shoe fits....." are often the exact sort of people they are talking about. Not always, but often. So, since you are clearly NOT a racist, you may want to settle down a bit lest you give the wrong impression.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:06 PM
Response to Reply #52
54. You are simply wrong...
And I will not settle down...and her continued refusal to deny that she has implied I am racist confirms it
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:06 PM
Response to Reply #52
55. I couldn't have said it better.
thank you.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:08 PM
Response to Reply #55
59. Then you are saying I am not necessarily a racist...
For opposing McKinney? If that is what you believe why not make that clear...becasue that is the clear message of the article you posted, and the clear implication of your reply to me.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:51 PM
Response to Reply #59
101. SaveElmer,
You would help your cause if you actually brought a single issue instead of spinning your wheels in faux outrage.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 09:02 PM
Response to Reply #101
107. See post #83...
However I do not believe I was being insincere...
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Reckon Donating Member (729 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:39 PM
Response to Original message
14. I wish we had more like Cynthia McKinney... nt
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Constitution Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:46 PM
Response to Reply #14
22. Same here. She is the most courageous woman in America
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:35 PM
Response to Reply #22
184. Um. No she's not.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 08:11 AM
Response to Reply #184
193. And with that gem of wisdom, we can consider the issue settled.
:eyes:
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:49 PM
Response to Original message
23. This article troubles me
Looking at Hank Johnson's website, he seems like a fairly solid progressive.

It bothers me that the article refers to him as Hankerchief Head. An "Uncle Tom" refererence I would assume. Yikes. What would be the reasoning behind referring to him as such? Is it just that he's running against Cynthia? Or does he have ties that are suspect? I'd like to see an article or something that discusses them if so.

I will not debate Cynthia's value as an activist. However, I think that Nancy Pelosi is also a decent person, and I don't like the insinuation of this article that she is racist. I don't see where that is constructive. It's the same feeling I got when I read that she'd called Al Gore racist, which didn't seem terribly fair either.

Nor do I appreciate the insinuation that black people who disagree with her are cowardly.

Although some who criticize her undoubtedly deserve the label, It should be possible to be critical of someone without being called racist, or corporist, or "Uncle Tom." I feel the same about almost anyone who's attained an almost iconic status within the party. Give the appearance of being a fighter, and some people will follow you anywhere. Witness Paul Hackett and Howard Dean. But when such people deserve criticism, then it should be possible to dole it out without being attacked if one is civil about it.

On a different tangent:
I wonder if Republicans will vote for Johnson as they did for Majette. He's anti-Iraq War for one thing. One would think that would gall them.

Anyway, those are my thoughts.
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MarkDevin Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:50 PM
Response to Original message
24. My, but white folks can be thin-skinned!
Being white myself, I find that quite sad.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:52 PM
Response to Reply #24
28. You find it sad that I object being called a racist...?
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MarkDevin Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:54 PM
Response to Reply #28
36. My experience with white liberals is that...
Edited on Wed Aug-02-06 07:56 PM by MarkDevin
...the more they vociferously deny being racist, the more latently racist they are. They may not even realize that they're racist, but they often are just that. Sorry if you find that objectionable, but it *has* been my experience, particularly with white liberals who were born and raised in the suburbs, attended an ivy league university, and never had a long-term friendship with any non-white person.

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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:55 PM
Response to Reply #36
37. So let me ge this straight...
The mere fact of opposing Cynthia McKinney is racist? Is that what you are saying...because right now that is all you know about me!
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 10:23 AM
Response to Reply #36
195. My experience with white liberals has shown they're also sometimes
simplistic, paternalistic, and so woefully ignorant about blacks that they assume that all blacks are victims and that every black person who screams racism is a hero.

As a black woman, I find this attitude particularly annoying, but also amusing. So I've been enormously amused at the sanctimonious attitudes of some white liberals on DU who deign to lecture me and others about how we're treating poor Cynthia McKinney so badly and have the nerve to attack true heroes such as John Lewis and other members of the Congressional Black Caucus for not being courageous enough to stand up for her.

Oh, Lord, rescue us from these well-meaning but patronizing white folks who don't know the first thing about our heroes.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:51 PM
Response to Original message
26. Be Clear..if you oppose McKinney you are being called a racist ...
Not only by the author of the article...but by the OP...

See Posts #3 and #6


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MarkDevin Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:52 PM
Response to Reply #26
29. Does the word "monomania" mean anything to you?
Give it a rest, for chrissake!
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:53 PM
Response to Reply #29
32. it appears as if someone has hit a chord
:shrug:
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:54 PM
Response to Reply #29
34. I can tolerate alot...
But ingoramuses who do not know me from Adam start accusing me of one of the most despicable things one can be accused of I will not let it go.

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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:58 PM
Response to Reply #34
40. obviously, you can not.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:59 PM
Response to Reply #40
42. Being called racist...no I cannot...and that is what you have called me.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:07 PM
Response to Reply #42
58. the thing is, I didn't call you that
you need to address this phantom directly, and leave me out of it.
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:08 PM
Response to Reply #58
60. All this BS is nothing more than a weak attempt to get the thread locked.
IMHO
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:09 PM
Response to Reply #60
62. exactly
he stated so himself, at the beginning of this thread.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:11 PM
Response to Reply #62
63. If that is the case...why will you not disavow any implication...
That opposing Cynthia McKinney makes one a racist...you do that I will go away!
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:14 PM
Response to Reply #63
66. You don't get to set ground rules when you created the fictional outrage.
Please.

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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:16 PM
Response to Reply #66
69. I wasn't actually directing my comment at you...
However, the implication of the article is that you are a racist if you oppose Cynthia McKinney, when I asked she said "if the shoe fits" Rather than just saying no, she implied at the very least my motivation may be racist...that is simply uncalled for!
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:22 PM
Response to Reply #69
78. That never happened here.
You need to stop projecting your own fears and biases into the article also.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:28 PM
Response to Reply #78
84. My objection was to her response to my inquiry...
Edited on Wed Aug-02-06 08:29 PM by SaveElmer
And I was disturbed by the passages she chose to highlight. See post #83
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:33 PM
Response to Reply #84
89. I don't buy it. Sorry
There is no 'there' there.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:35 PM
Response to Reply #89
92. Lincoln...
I really do not care what you do or do not believe...I have given my explanation, If you are unwilling to accept it that is certainly your right.

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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:37 PM
Response to Reply #92
93. Why respond at all then?
:shrug:
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:12 PM
Response to Reply #62
64. "Assuming this thread is around much longer"
lol busted


To be honest, it is a tactic that works pretty well for them.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:14 PM
Response to Reply #64
67. I madly assumed...
Calling...or even implying racist motivations of fellow DU members was against the rules...apparently not!
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:15 PM
Response to Reply #67
68. LOL
We all know about assumptions, don't we?
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:18 PM
Response to Reply #67
73. That never happened here.
Everyone else can see it for what it really is.


The fact that the racist video from Michele Malkin's online hate group garnered ZERO objections from you, also speaks volumes.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:20 PM
Response to Reply #73
74. Lincoln...
If you don't see the clear implication I cannot help you...however I have no idea what you are talking about in relation to a Michele Malkin video.

Apparently a thread I missed
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:23 PM
Response to Reply #74
79. Everyone else can see it for what it really is.
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MarkDevin Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:30 PM
Response to Reply #67
86. There's a huge difference between "calling" and "implying."
And an even bigger difference than "inferring," as you've done.

Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill!
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:30 PM
Response to Reply #86
88. See post #83..nt
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 04:11 PM
Response to Reply #40
160. A hit dog WILL holler. nt
nt
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:52 PM
Response to Reply #26
30. and if you oppose lil elmer you are ignorant
see how that works out?
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:01 PM
Response to Reply #26
47. And yet again
SHE DID NOT SAY THAT. You are just trying to play the victim here. Knock it off already.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:03 PM
Response to Reply #47
50. Wrong...simply wrong
Do you even know the meaning of the term "if the shoe fits" How naive do you have to be...she is clearly calling people, as is the author of th article, racist if they oppose McKinney.
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:06 PM
Response to Reply #50
56. LOL yeah, I think I grok the meaning just fine
And no, I'm not naive. Which part of "if" are you having an issue with?
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 04:51 AM
Response to Reply #50
231. I wonder how many African Americans voted for Johnson...
...would they be considered racists too in this situation? Maybe it was the sexists that voted her out, because she's a woman? I saw on news that only about 40% of the voters showed up to vote. THAT'S what's really sad!
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 11:21 AM
Response to Reply #26
136. Give me a good reason to oppose Cynthia McKinney...
because in the absence of a good reason, Occam's Razor says racism.
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TroubleMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 07:49 PM
Response to Reply #26
173. That's a weak straw man you've set up there.

The OP said there are racists opposed to McKinney, and inferred that they have specifically colluded to oust McKinney (which is true). Nobody's ever said that if you oppose McKinney you're a racist.
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:02 PM
Response to Original message
48. This thread needs a racist video from Michele Malkin's online hate
club.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:09 PM
Response to Reply #48
61. ROFL!!
:rofl:

and the funny thing is, I've been called a racist on this site several times.

Yet I didn't blow a gasket about it.
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:16 PM
Response to Original message
70. elmer - relax
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:18 PM
Response to Reply #70
72. Nope...
I resent the implication by both the article and the OP that one is racist for opposing Cynthia McKinney...so no I will not let it rest
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:26 PM
Response to Reply #72
81. I hope it works out for you.
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MarkDevin Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:26 PM
Response to Reply #72
82. You're making a fool of yourself.
Your posts to this thread are nothing but a variation of, "Take it back, take it back!" They're repetitive and more than a bit childish. And they could change the minds of those who were willing to give you the benefit of the doubt when you insist that you're not a racist.

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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 09:21 PM
Response to Reply #82
115. i disagree
The OP's response "if the shoe fits" was incredibly offensive and directly suggests that those who oppose McKinney are racist. SaveElmer was right to call bullshit.

Personally, I'm Jewish and I'm hoping for a Lamont victory. Does that make me an anti-semite? Does it make anyone who opposes Lieberman an anti-semite? Does that shoe "fit" too?

Smearing opponents of one's favorite candidate and questioning their motives for their position is something I associate with the other side, not with Democrats. So again, I second the call of bullshit on the OP's implicit, yet clear, namecalling.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:27 PM
Response to Original message
83. I have to admit I am astonished...
That I am the only one that sees what is to me the clear implication that opposing Cynthia McKinney is racist...but since I am apparently the only one I will do what Ben Franklin asked the delegates at the Constitutional Convention to do and "doubt a little in my own infallibility" and admit I amy be in error....

If you are not implying racism on my part I apologize...I sincerely hope that is the case because I most assuredly am not!

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T Town Jake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:30 PM
Response to Reply #83
87. Save your apologies for a crew that deserves them: that's EXACTLY...
...what the OP and her whiny little playmates are implying in this thread.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 09:00 PM
Response to Reply #83
106. Screw that.
Edited on Wed Aug-02-06 09:00 PM by Codeine
That was precisely the implication the poster was making. They've done a remarkable job of changing the debate from why people should vote for their preferred candidate to making anybody who doesn't support her defend themselves from outrageous smears. I admire their skill, if nothing else.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 09:14 PM
Response to Reply #106
114. do that stuff much, C?
I am a "she", not a "they", and I am puzzled about just what the heck you are talking about.

I see no one being "smeared" here.

What the fuck is wrong with you people? the heat? full moon? too much codeine?
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 09:26 PM
Response to Reply #114
117. A well-crafted response.
Unable to address substance you attack the name I use to post under (for the record, real name Jason, username derived from a 90s slowcore band); that speaks volumes, CatWoman. "They" referred not only to you but also toy your travelling circus of sycophants, as I'm sure you are well aware.

I do see people being smeared here. Are you so delusional that you can't accept that a person of liberal, progressive views could be dissatified with McKinney's reputation and may simply find her opponent, also a Democrat, more palatable? Claiming that anybody who opposes her is by definition a racist, or dislikes women, or is a DLC shill, or whatever other nastiness is being flung about is inherently "smearing" people.

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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 12:43 PM
Response to Reply #117
150. Do you live in the south?
Boortz supports johnson. Have you heard the racist crap he's spewed about McKinney? I have, I USED TO BE BOORTZ'S BOARD OP!

Racism in the South is fueling this hatred for Cynthia. If she were a white male, no one would bat an eyelash at the things she's done. She hasn't been outrageously radical and NO WHERE can anyone give AN EXAMPLE of what she's done wrong.

Just repeat the same MSM, Repuke drivel about her because its hard to explain to all your white friends that you support such an uppity black.

NO REAL PROOF EVER COMES FROM YOU PEOPLE. You just bash her for your own caucasian comfort and being Caucasian i know exactly how easy it is to fall into THAT trap.

I refuse.

No matter her color or her gender, her words ring true to me.

Now go out and let the madmen gobble you up because you are too afraid to stand up for a woman.
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joe_sixpack Donating Member (655 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 03:14 PM
Response to Reply #83
158. You aren't the only one
N/T
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:29 PM
Response to Original message
85. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:35 PM
Response to Reply #85
91. Tonight's winner of the "I wanna be just like my DU hero" award goes to
you.

Congrats
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 03:21 AM
Response to Reply #91
225. I think I might possibly have guessed who TTJ's DU hero is...
nt
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 04:15 AM
Response to Reply #225
226. I bet it's one of the 2 DUers I have on ignore.
Try it, you'll like it!
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:39 PM
Response to Reply #85
95. now, which sewer did you crawl out of?
may I inquire as to just what the hell you are talking about? :shrug:

I'm struck by the fact that you show up out of the blue with whining about someone else whining :shrug:
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MarkDevin Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:33 PM
Response to Original message
90. Aww! Those poor, beleaguered white folks.
Edited on Wed Aug-02-06 08:35 PM by MarkDevin
If they're not fending off pereceived accusations of racism, they're feeling guilty about all the money they've made from the Bush tax cuts. My heart just bleeds for those poor, scapegoated ofays! :sarcasm:
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:38 PM
Response to Reply #90
94. It's hard out here for a white boy!
It's hard work, we're workin' hard.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 04:17 AM
Response to Reply #90
227. It must be SO HARD to be white. To be constantly attacked and accused.
Oh wait. I'm white and I call bullshit. Yeah, I'm down with McKinney. They're out for her blood.
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NaturalHigh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:42 PM
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96. I read this drivel on BlackCommentator.
I check out their site once in a while out of morbid curiosity. Why they feel the need to unquestionably back Cynthia McKinney, a nut job if there ever was one, is beyond me. It seems that half their site is usually devoted to Cynthia, and the other half is devoted to begging for money.

It doesn't take racism to oppose McKinney. A little common sense will do the trick. She's the poster child for bad PR.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:45 PM
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98. What has McKinney done to make her a "nutjob"
Is it "bad PR" to oppose Bushco-Carlyle war profiteering?
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NaturalHigh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:55 PM
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102. Let's see...
How about the whole mess she caused by accusing the Capitol Hill police officer of racism (which she seems to claim just about any time something doesn't suit her), when she was obviously in the wrong. Hell, the Congressional Black Caucus wouldn't even back her up. Also, if she were so concerned about racism, shouldn't she have shown up to vote on the Voting Rights Act renewal?

Then there were the nut job comments about 9/11. Oh, and let's not forget her practically begging for the money from the Arab prince after Guilliani (sp?) refused it. Also, she's been fairly cozy with the Farrakhan crowd and refused to denounce their anti-Semitic comments. I'm not sure if this was before or after her father blamed Jews for her defeat in the primary a few years ago.

I absolutely denounce the war profiteering that has so blatantly taken place under this administration. I just don't understand why McKinney has to be such a nitwit about almost everything else.
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MarkDevin Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 09:07 PM
Response to Reply #102
111. What "nut job comments about 9/11?"
Would you care to provide an example, or are you just another DLC parakeet?
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NaturalHigh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 07:30 PM
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167. Oh, maybe the BS about...
the government letting it happen just so we could go to war. Does anyone really believe that?

I absolutely believe the government dropped the ball before 9/11. I don't believe the government intentionally let it happen or (as many have suggested) actually carried out the attack and blamed bin laden. I guess my tinfoil hat isn't screwed on tight enough.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 04:18 AM
Response to Reply #167
228. Guess not /nt
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 09:21 PM
Response to Reply #102
116. Gee, the Bushes have Bandar Bush
A grand jury said move on about her beating the poor white policeman.

Are you saying AIPAC and the Isreali lobby didn't spend a lot of money and mobilize media against her?

Do you actually believe the offical story about 9-11? That's truly nutty.
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NaturalHigh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 07:31 PM
Response to Reply #116
168. Who the hell is Bandar Bush?
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 07:44 PM
Response to Reply #168
171. Prince Bandar bin Sultan bin Abdul Aziz Al-Saud
Saudi royal family and very close, personal, long-time, ally of the BFEE. He was actually with 41 watching the WTC attack, and was instrumental in the controversial evacuation of all the Bin Ladens and Sauds right after the attack, when everything was supposedly grounded.

Bandar Bush is a nickname because of the exceptional access he has to the WH and family. See Fahrenheit 9/11.

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MarkDevin Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 09:36 PM
Response to Reply #102
120. And another thing.
Edited on Wed Aug-02-06 09:36 PM by MarkDevin
There exists somewhere (at youtube.com, perhaps?) a video of African-American Capitol Hill police officers confirming the "nutjob" belief that there is anti-black racism on the force. But believing those cops is as crazy as believing Connecticut voters who tell you that Ned Lamont has a lot of support! Right? :eyes:
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 11:11 PM
Response to Reply #120
125. Where's the tape? What did grand jury say? That's all you need to know.
This Capital police altercation is just so much rightwing orchestrated street theatre.
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NaturalHigh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 07:16 PM
Response to Reply #125
165. Then why did she apologize?
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 09:15 PM
Response to Reply #165
207. damn
she can't win with you.

She doesn't apologize - she's a loon.

She apologizes - she's a loon (in your opinion)

What's a sistah gonna do? :shrug:
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 09:20 PM
Response to Reply #207
210. What's a sistah gonna do?
GET BACK IN THA KITCHEN AND MAKE SCANDAL RIDDEN" HANK A F*CKIN SAMMITCH!
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 09:22 PM
Response to Reply #210
212. *snicker*
yassuh.

I's going directly.

:rofl:
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:37 PM
Response to Reply #120
186. To say that there may be anti-black racism on the force
does not mean that the officer who stopped McKinney was demonstrating it.

That's like saying because there's racism in America, all white people are racists and every black person who runs into trouble is the victim of it.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:46 PM
Response to Reply #96
99. and if you really did R-E-A-D it
you will see that racism isn't used as the single source or explanation.

Have a good evening :hi:
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NaturalHigh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:48 PM
Response to Reply #99
100. Yes, I really did R-E-A-D it.
My eyesight isn't what it used to be, but I can still read pretty well.

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MarkDevin Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:55 PM
Response to Reply #96
103. Drivel = any opinion with which you disagree.
'Nuff said!
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NaturalHigh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:56 PM
Response to Reply #103
104. I'm not sure where you get that idea...
but you're welcome to your opinion and free to express it, as I feel free to express mine.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 09:04 PM
Response to Reply #104
108. ha-rumph!!!!
Edited on Wed Aug-02-06 09:06 PM by CatWoman
something tells me there ain't NUTHIN' natural about that high.....
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NaturalHigh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 07:27 PM
Response to Reply #108
166. Personal insults mean little...
if you can't argue the merits of a subject. However, they usually help small-minded people to feel better, so fire away.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 09:36 PM
Response to Reply #166
213. speaking of small minded
Edited on Fri Aug-04-06 09:38 PM by CatWoman
I didn't start the fire, your highness.

You've done nothing but show your ignorance. About Cynthia. About the article. About me, and what I've said.

You come out like a ball out of a cannon, and now cry about personal insults?

cry me a river :cry:
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GAPeace Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:56 PM
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105. DAMN STRAIGHT! She is an unrelenting truthteller!
One who has embraced the community and activist left that so needs a voice. Yes the media has a hate cult around her; that's their problem and not hers.

Don't replace her with an Israel shill.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 09:06 PM
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MarkDevin Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 09:06 PM
Response to Reply #105
110. Which is why the DLC can't stand her.
McKinney is for the people, not the corporations. And we certainly can't have that in the New Democratic Party!
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 04:12 AM
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130. Israel shill?
Isn't that an "anti-Semitic" remark?
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UDenver20 Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 11:45 AM
Response to Reply #105
143. Except for that Patriot Act Vote...
Oops...
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 09:08 PM
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112. The ONLY complaint I have is...
Edited on Wed Aug-02-06 09:14 PM by bvar22
...that's a terrible picture of Cynthia.
Cynthia McKinney is a top progressive, no hint of tainting by Corporate Money, and does a great job representing Americans who have to Work for a Living.

McKinney is also a target of CorpoConservatives (some inside the Democratic Party) who actively work to swiftboat her.
As evidence, the swiftboaters either refer to her as a "nutjob" (without providing evidence)(talking point) , or they continially spotlight a minor incident with Capitol Police (vastly blown out of proportion) instead of questioning her Voting Record or her Stand on the Issues.

As a Wellstone (FDR) Democrat, Cynthia McKinney has my full support, and if I can swing it, another donation from me.

http://www.cynthiaforcongress.com/donate.php

Bob
St Paul

The Democratic Party is a BIG TENT, but there is NO ROOM for those
who advance the agenda of THE RICH (Corporate Owners) at the EXPENSE of LABOR and the POOR.

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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 09:33 PM
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119. tired of "civil rights type politics"
disgust at "activism...."

Is there any clearer signpost pointing the way to classism, to fascism, to totalitarianism?

Is it now not politically correct for a Democrat to be active in working for civil rights, according to AJC?

If more Democratics adopt the attitude/positions of the AJC, the party will be hemorraging voters faster than they can be replaced with those centrist "swing" voters.

I'll stand with McKinney. Let's tell the Fudds of the world that it isn't open season on progressives.
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 09:54 PM
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121. McKinney is Public Enemy #1 for the American right wing
and a great friend to working families, school children, military people, and non-billionaires in general. That's why her voting record has been rated highly by NARAL Pro-Choice America, Americans for the Arts, the American Civil Liberties Union, the NAACP, Human Rights Campaign, the League of United Latin American Citizens, the National Education Association, the American Coalition for Ethanol, the Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund, the League of Conservation Voters, the Children's Defense Fund, PeacePAC, the American Association of University Women, the National Organization for Women, the U.S. Public Interest Research Group, the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, the American Public Health Association, the American Immigration Lawyers Association, the Service Employees International Union, United Auto Workers, the International Brotherhood of Boilermakers, the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers, United Food and Commercial Workers, the Transportation Communications Union, the AFL-CIO, the National Committee for an Effective Congress, Americans for Democratic Action, People for the American Way, the National Committee to Preserve Social Security and Medicare, the Alliance for Retired Americans, the Population Institute, NETWORK (Catholic social justice lobby), Disabled American Veterans, Bread for the World, the Drum Major Institute for Public Policy, and others. (source: Project Vote Smart)

Here's just one example of how she's fighting the crooks currently running our government:
$21 Billion Missing, and Counting: See Cynthia McKinney on the House Floor

Balancing Our Bank Book: The Missing $9 Billion and More
Washington, DC
Statement from the Floor by Rep. Cynthia McKinney
June 21, 2006

I know at some point each month or from time to time all of us have had to balance our bank accounts. Now, if the discrepancy is $9 dollars, we might just ignore it, figuring we made a small error somewhere. If it were $90 short, most of us would at least take time to recalculate and discover the error and call the bank. If the statement is $900 off, we will probably be down at the bank visiting the manager. If our account were missing $9,000 we would be on the phone to our lawyer. At $90,000 it would probably mean we had been working at Enron or invested in some very bad stock.

If $900,000 were missing from an account, there would probably be a call to accountants, the IRS and our creditors before long, or else we might be a CEO for a large corporation or stock market executive who lost a bonus. When $9,000,000 shows up missing, that usually means contract overruns or fraud, and a government audit is inevitable.

A Congressional committee might look into an unaccounted expenditure of $90 million and we would read about it in the New York Times. When $900 million goes missing, corporations collapse, mergers are cancelled, contracts are terminated, inspector generals are appointed, contractors are sometimes banned or fined, charges are brought to court, and people usually begin to notice.

I point all this out to ask what should happen when we find out that $9 BILLION is discovered by an official investigation to be unaccounted for in our contracting accounts for the reconstruction of Iraq, relating to one corporation, Halliburton and oil revenues? Apparently this administration thinks very little should happen, because there has been no further investigation, appointment of a special inspector, a charge against a person responsible, or any penalty or ban on that corporation, which continues to make massive profits from privatization contracts with the US military, despite evidence of overcharging, minimal accountability for funds, incompetence, and abuses of international and civil rights.
more, including a video link: http://cynthiaforcongress.com/blog.php?id=22

And here's where to donate to her campaign: http://cynthiaforcongress.com/donate.php
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 11:17 PM
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126. Are you fucking kidding? The right wing LOVES her!
"House Speaker Dennis Hastert needed a lifeline.
His sidekick Tom DeLay, quitting the House, had just said that the Republican Party doesn't have an agenda. A group of Republican rebels, defying Hastert, was starting a petition to force a debate on the Iraq war. And Hastert was standing in front of the microphones, answering questions about splits between moderates and conservatives in his party over immigration and the budget.
Finally, a Fox News producer took mercy on him. "Should Cynthia McKinney resign?" she asked.
A look of relief verging on joy washed over the face of the hulking Illinois Republican....
GOP aides, one of them wearing an "I {heart} Capitol Police" button, called the session to an end. A dismal news conference had been salvaged by the McKinney scandal. "We should send somebody over to thank her," Rep. David Dreier (R-Calif.) said as he left the room."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/05/AR2006040502207.html

And let's not forget her idiotic "Al Gore's a racist" claim in 2000....

Besides, she shares their anti-Semitism and ignorance.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 09:17 PM
Response to Reply #126
209. channel Neal much?
Edited on Fri Aug-04-06 09:18 PM by CatWoman
http://mediamatters.org/items/200603310005

and if she's so "ignorant", how did she get elected to Congress.

You running soon?
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UDenver20 Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 11:44 AM
Response to Reply #121
142. And Their Favorite Poster Child for the Loony-Left
Good god, we know you love her - but when you going to realize that her actions do more harm than her positions do good? When she makes herself look like a nut-job, who on earth is going to publicly identify with her (obviously some here - but who in Government?)

She has no credibility because she keeps saying the most outlandish, obnoxious, offensive things possible. Her actions discredit her even more. She sounds like a liberal/black/female/not-so-anorexic version of Ann Coulter.

She didn't get forced into a runoff because of the voters - it was Diebold.
If you oppose her, you're a racist.
If you don't agree with her, you're part of the bush-gang.
She wasn't wrong to assault a cop - it was wrong of him to challenge her entry when she wasn't wearing her pin.

Geez - I think George Bush admits he's wrong more than she does.

FACTS: I am (1)a Georgian, (2)a Democrat or (3)someone who opposes the war. Just because I can see that she knows nothing about credibility and everything about being inflammatory - doesn't mean I or anyone else am (insert obnoxious accusation here - with diebold, with bush, against African Americans, etc).

I'm not saying that Hank Johnson is God's gift to Democrats - but I am saying that he's not going to SET THE DEMOCRATIC MOVEMENT IN GEORGIA BACK. She is counterproductive.

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW HARD IT IS TO CONVINCE AN INDEPENDENT VOTER TO VOTE DEMOCRAT WHEN SHE'S THE STORY THAT SINGLE-HANDEDLY STOPPED A MULTI-MONTH STRING OF BAD-NEWS FOR THE GOP?

Do you have any desire to regain control of Georgia's government (or, heck, the Federal Government) or do you just want to elect your nut-job and assume that all the suburban/exurban/rural Republican-come-latelies are going to ignore her shenanigans? These morons will take any excuse to NOT vote for the Democrats.

She and that bribe-taking clown from Louisiana both need to go. If Democrats want to sweep out the GOP - then we've got to keep our own house in order FIRST.

You want a hero? Look for people who's deed follows their actions - Not someone whose actions embarrass her (direct and indirect) constituents and set back a movement to remove the real problem.

Hallelujah - Holy Shit - Where's the Tylenol?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 12:53 PM
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 06:13 PM
Response to Reply #142
200. If you want Republican Lite, I'm not interested
As you accurately state, "These morons will take any excuse to NOT vote for the Democrats." So if they don't have Cynthia McKinney to kick around any more, they'll come up with another reason to vote Anything-But-Democrat.

So why should I be trying to appease them?
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 09:20 PM
Response to Reply #142
211. gee -- I thought I was the epitome of the "looney left"
If you oppose her, you're a racist.

no one, NO ONE, has said that.

you and several others have interpreted it that way.

that's your problem.
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OutNow Donating Member (538 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 10:35 PM
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123. Money Talks - Send Some To Cynthia
Lots of emotion, lots of back and forth. Name calling isn't helpful. Money is. The day that I saw McKinney was forced into a runoff I sent her campaign a check. I had the opportunity to hear her speak at the massive antiwar rally in Washington, September 24, 2005. She was the only member of congress that agreed to be a speaker. THE ONLY MEMBER OF CONGRESS. That's all I need to know.

Bring the troops home now!
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 12:19 AM
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128. kick n/m
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 02:03 AM
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129. I'm not suprised to see that this thread went no where but the gutter...
Edited on Thu Aug-03-06 02:05 AM by DRoseDARs
"You're either with Cynthia or you're with the KKK..." is pretty much all I'm seeing from her supporters in this thread. Sounds a bit like Bush's address to a joint Congress September 20, 2001. I hate George W. Bush, therefore I must hate Christians, Yale graduates and cheerleaders too. If the shoe fits... :eyes:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 01:01 PM
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 11:27 PM
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190. Not all McKinney haters are racists, but all racists are McKinney haters.
Edited on Thu Aug-03-06 11:53 PM by oasis
That said, I doubt if any poster on this thread embraces racism.
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 02:55 AM
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192. And several posters can't rise above the level of calling others racist nt
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Constitution Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 11:08 AM
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132. K & R
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Celica Toyota Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 11:14 AM
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133. K & R
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UDenver20 Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 11:15 AM
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134. More like she's a few watt's short....
She's frigging nuts. The faster she goes, the better.

She's an embarrassment to Georgia - and to the Democratic Party.

She has no credibility - unlike the man representing the district immediately to her west.
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Thirtieschild Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 12:35 PM
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149. Seems that those of us who've seen her up close and personal
i.e., those of us who live or have lived in Georgia, see her for what she is: nuts. We lived next door to her district for 39 years and were amazed at her antics. Al Gore a racist? And you are so right, she could learn a lot from the congressman just west of her district. I've admired John Lewis since Selma and trust him absolutely.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 01:03 PM
Response to Reply #149
153. Can you give an example of what she's done
backed up with links and facts or are you just parroting WSB and the Cox empire?


LINKS LINKS LINKS.

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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 01:05 PM
Response to Reply #134
154. Please give examples if you TRULY believe this
Is she an embarrassment becasue of her color and gender or do you have any other factual limnks to back up your words


LINKS FACTS LINKS FACTS LINKS FACTS LINKS FACTS


Got any of those?
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NaturalHigh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 07:35 PM
Response to Reply #154
169. How about a little googling?
Try these, if you're too busy to google for yourself.

There is plenty of evidence around that this woman is a nitwit of the highest magnitude.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 07:45 PM
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172. First off, if YOU make the statement, YOU provide the link
It's not up to me to prove your point.

Secondly, rense.com, worldnetdaily and FU(X) News are not sources anyone on this site should even deign to respect.

And the nyt link wouldn't open.

Sorry, you'll have to do better than point to these sites or continue to demonize her for having a hearing on 911. More than a few hearings took place concerning 911. Are the folks coming out with new 911 evidence this week (see DU Home Page) also bullgoose loonies? If not, why not? Skin color? Party affilliation? Gender? Hairstyle? This is a question only YOU can answer for yourself.

I believe the more hearings, the better. And as for anyone saying * and CO profited from 911, isn't that what a ton of people on DU have been saying for years?

If you have a DIRECT QUOTE and reliable source I will be happy to examine your proof. Otherwise I will continue to assume you have no real proof.
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Padme Amidala Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 11:30 AM
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139. I'd give up all but a few of the California delgation to keep her
We need her more than the Congress people who back Bush and vote for wars.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 12:13 PM
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145. I hope she wins but...
I will be surprised if she does.
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God Almighty Donating Member (264 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 01:17 PM
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156. It's sort of McKinney against Bush and Company.
It's going to be tough.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 12:19 PM
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147. LOL. BC does a front page McKinney campaign ad and calls it journalism
Edited on Thu Aug-03-06 12:21 PM by rinsd
Its got all of McKinney's bogus attacks on Johnson and a call for donation.

I wonder if the FEC should investigate?

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 01:07 PM
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 06:42 PM
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164. Got any proof the attacks are bogus?
Any proof of anything?

Not even one crumb you can offer me?

No?

You're in good company, it appears.

:boring:
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God Almighty Donating Member (264 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 01:27 PM
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157. K & R
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 04:16 PM
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162. What do they mean by "Hankerchief Head"
and how is that not offensive?
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 06:39 PM
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163. Funny how NOBODY responded to my call for links and facts


Now just who is so dim they can't even do research to back up their own statements?

What is so hard about looking up the facts, since so many of you are quick to make all these claims about McKinney?

NOT ONE of you has the courage or conviction or skill to give me proof?

There must be no proof. Therefor, you must have some other reasons to dislike her. And what reasons might those be? Hmmmmmmmmmm......:think:

I rest my case.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 07:38 PM
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PBass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 08:25 PM
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175. Thanks for the link. I just donated 50 dollars.
Edited on Thu Aug-03-06 08:27 PM by PBass
I hope it's not too late... now I wish I would have done this way before the run-off.

There is a lot of slander about Ms McKinney. She is a target because she is one of the most aggressive people in Congress. Maybe you folks prefer the wimpy style of Democrats?

As far as the "you called me racist" soap opera, if you aren't a racist then a comment like that will roll off your back.

It's like if you are walking down the street, and someone yells out HEY DUMBASS. Do you whip around and demand to know who is accusing you of being stupid? Or do you simply assume that they MUST be talking to SOMEONE ELSE.

Fact is that YES lots of racists are definitely opposed to Ms McKinney. If that is not your motivation, then leave it alone... lest you be accused that you DOTH PROTEST TOO MUCH (Shakespeare)

http://cynthiaforcongress.com/donate.php

DONATE!!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 08:30 PM
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TroubleMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 07:59 PM
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174. Wow...I'm in disbelief. Some DUer's have taken the right wing spin
Edited on Thu Aug-03-06 08:03 PM by TroubleMan
hook, line and sinker.

I expect that crap from Mr. Benchley (probably the only Lieberman supporter left on DU), but the rest of you? C'mon. 90% of the points brought up against her are direct talking points from the right wing and MSM.

Also, holding the view that 9/11 was an inside job (which McKinney has never stated - she stated that they were negligent in taking steps to prevent it), is not a "nutjob" point of view. Just from reading DU for several years, I'd guess that 80% of DU holds that view, including me. I was LIHOP, now that more evidence is coming out it points more and more towards MIHOP. So if you're calling her a nutjob based on that, then you're calling the large majority of DUer's nutjobs, too.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 08:36 PM
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178. LOL! Too too funny....
Keep on whooping for an antiSemitic loony...you're in good company. The Republicans LOVE her too.....

"House Speaker Dennis Hastert needed a lifeline.
His sidekick Tom DeLay, quitting the House, had just said that the Republican Party doesn't have an agenda. A group of Republican rebels, defying Hastert, was starting a petition to force a debate on the Iraq war. And Hastert was standing in front of the microphones, answering questions about splits between moderates and conservatives in his party over immigration and the budget.
Finally, a Fox News producer took mercy on him. "Should Cynthia McKinney resign?" she asked.
A look of relief verging on joy washed over the face of the hulking Illinois Republican....
GOP aides, one of them wearing an "I {heart} Capitol Police" button, called the session to an end. A dismal news conference had been salvaged by the McKinney scandal. "We should send somebody over to thank her," Rep. David Dreier (R-Calif.) said as he left the room."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/05/AR2006040502207.html
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TroubleMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 08:57 PM
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180. That was a back handed compliment by Delay and you know it.

Your efforts to distort things are taking on a whole new level.

How can you call her anti-Semitic? You accusation is baseless. If it isn't, then show proof: actual quotes from her (not from her critics). Otherwise don't call her anti-Semitic - because it's not true.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:02 PM
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181. Where did I quote Delay, brainiac?
The Republicans love the antiSemitic loony because she disgraces the Democratic party.

And I'll call her antiSemitic because she's shown herself to be again and again. Now go sulk about it elsewhere.
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TroubleMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:10 PM
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182. Sorry, I had the wrong repug.It looked like Delay said the quote at first.

Still the point is the same. They were thanking her for taking the spotlight off of them. They were getting bad press, and then the MSM jumps all over McKinney, which temporarily took some heat off of them. That was no compliment.

"And I'll call her antiSemitic because she's shown herself to be again and again."

Name one time - you can't. You just label and dismiss. The same as right wingers do. You think that if you throw enough mud it will stick. Instead you just repeat the same talking points over and over again. Show some proof.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:14 PM
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 09:42 PM
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214. what I'd like to know is:
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 03:11 AM
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216. LOL!
Edited on Sat Aug-05-06 03:12 AM by MrBenchley
Nobody's running around quoting old Catwoman posts...but then she has nothing to say wirth hearing.

And I've said before, back then I was silly enough to believe what some people here were saying about the DLC--then I looked into it and realized how full of shit the far left is.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 06:04 PM
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220. obviously I have a LOT to say worth hearing
otherwise, why are you here in this thread?

you still didn't answer the question, Hater.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 04:24 AM
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229. How funny, and his words are so important half of DU has him on ignore!
Me included, so he can post some vicious garbage about me, but I won't see it. Ha Ha!

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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:37 PM
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185. Wow! Going To BlackCommnetator for support. Nothing like scrapping
the bottom of the barrel.

And that God-Awful portrait of McKinney is outdated. She changed her hair style.
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TroubleMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:40 PM
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187. ??? After DU, that's one of the most honest and liberal websites.

It's liberal, truthful and hard-hitting. Why would any DUer attack them? They're on our side.
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 10:25 AM
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196. The Black Commentator is a joke
The only people who seem to like it are white liberals who think that it somehow represents black thought in America. You can probably count the number of self-respecting black folk who pay the least bit of attention to it on one hand.
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Constitution Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 10:43 PM
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188. What's the problem? You got something against African American magazines?
Racism is for lowlifes.
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tom22 Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 11:08 PM
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189. I find it refreshing that the Congress Woman is judged,
not by the color of her skin, but by the content of her character. and that will be a tough contest for her to win.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 09:11 PM
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205. if you watched the debate, you would note that that is how she wore
her hair.

When it comes to hair, we black women are not "one-trick ponies".

And, if you don't mind, I'd like to know what makes the Black Commentator "the bottom of the barrel"?

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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 04:27 AM
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230. Oh my god. The hair comment! What ignorance!
All my black girlfriends have a new hairdo every week. Black hair culture is different than white hair culture. Get over it! All this nonsense about McKinney's hair. It is SO ignorant and absurd.
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Constitution Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 01:21 AM
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191. k & r
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Constitution Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 08:46 AM
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194. k & r
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Padme Amidala Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 09:00 PM
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202. k & r
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 09:13 PM
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206. What's so funny about this thread
that "you called me a racist" meme is trite, tired and boring.

I, myself, have been called a racist MANY TIMES on this very board.

I laughed it off.

I didn't yell and scream thru a hundred posts: YOU CALLED ME A RACIST!! HOW DARE YOU!!!

And when people called me that, it wasn't "inferred" or "misinterpreted".

They came right out and said it.

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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 09:16 PM
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208. Consider the source.
Lately, DU has had more than it's share of posters bragging about fooling the nods and admins.
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Constitution Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 01:29 PM
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218. k & r
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 01:44 PM
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219. I still can't pick a side in this race
I saw part of the debate yesterday and from my perspective, McKinney destroyed Johnson. Honestly, I don't know what to make of the Capitol Police incident because I haven't talked to anyone who is an expert about this subject. But her comments about President Gore's "Nego Tolerance" are disgusting. If they had found a good challenger to go up against her I would have no trouble deciding who to support. But Hank Johnson is a complete lightweight and I appreciate some of the things that McKinney has done in congress.
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Constitution Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 07:29 PM
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221. It's simple. There's Cynthia's side and there the Bush-Johnson side
I pick McKinney.
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Constitution Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 08:05 PM
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222. k & r
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Constitution Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 01:23 PM
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223. kick
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T Town Jake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:39 AM
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224. And SUCH a class act in defeat, too:
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