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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 04:07 PM
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9/11 panel considered criminal probe of Pentagon's apparent lies
Edited on Wed Aug-02-06 04:10 PM by welshTerrier2
Mods: this is from a credible news source ... it does not offer "conspiracy theories" about 9/11 ... it provides documentation that the official 9/11 panel had problems with some of the testimony they received ... i hope this thread can remain in GDP ...

i offer the following news article (from AFP and the Washington Post) without comment:


source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060802/ts_alt_afp/usattackspentagon_060802134114

The 10-member commission that investigated the US response to the September 11 attacks reportedly considered seeking a criminal probe of the Pentagon, believing it had deliberately misled the panel and the public.

The Washington Post said that the panel found discrepancies between statements officials of the North American Aerospace Command (NORAD) and the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) made about their response to the hijackings and audiotapes and e-mails later made available.

The panel, in a secret meeting at the close of its investigation in 2004, decided there was probable cause to believe the officials had broken the law by making false statements in the hope of hiding their bungled response, sources knowledgeable of the debate told the newspaper. <skip>

The Pentagon for the first two years after the attacks maintained that its response had been quick and that jets had been scrambled in response to the last two hijackings.

But after analyzing the audiotapes and other material the commission subpoenaed from NORAD and FAA, panel members found that the Air Force never had any of the hijacked airliners in its sights.

"I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described," John Farmer, a former New Jersey attorney general who led the staff inquiry into events on September 11, told the daily in a recent interview.

"The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years ... This is not spin. This is not true."
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ClusterFreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 04:16 PM
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1. To this day, I still can't get my head around the fact that...
...the Pentagon/NORAD/U.S.A.F. was not able to stop even one hijacked plane on that day.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 04:25 PM
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3. With an hour's warning, Bush's Pentagon couldn't muster a pea shooter
Edited on Wed Aug-02-06 04:25 PM by SpiralHawk
to defend themselves or Washington.

Pathetic.

That what you get when the so-called "commander" is an AWOL deserter, and the Vice-pResident Cheney got Five Military Deferments because he "had other priorities" (hanging out with his rich republicon oil cronies).

What a pair of losers. They failed America on 9/11, as did their crony appointees to the Pentagon.

Restore America to honor. Throw the chickenhawks out of the White House.
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ClusterFreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 04:34 PM
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4. Here here!!
:thumbsup:
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 04:17 PM
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2. They should have brought criminal charges
I am waiting for the objective review the DOD will privide of the Pentagon's handling of 9-11.
The 9-11 commission failed in its duty to the American people by letting this drop.
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reaper66 Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 05:07 PM
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5. The government carried out 9/11
The government carried out 9/11 and what happened at the pentagon only scratches the surface. If you don't believe me then here is the proof.


Free online 9/11 Videos

terrorstorm
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3710767957407328313&q=terrorstorm

Martial Law 911 Rise of the Police State
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6495462761605341661&q=martial+law

911 The Road to Tyrrany
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1358726890127819985&q=911+road

Loose Change 2nd Editon
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5946593973848835726


video clips

New York firemen discuss collapse nof WTC
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6246148295258152003&q=WTC+collapse

WTC collapse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmBL2oYdXWQ&search=WTC%20collapse

Larry Silverstein admitting that he pulled building 7. keep in mind it takes days to wire a building for demolition. But magicly they were able to do it on 9/11 in just a few hours.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7he_sAVs0A&search=Larry%20Silverstein

Alex Jones interviews actor Charlie Sheen who believes that the oficial 9/11 story is a fraud.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4559472852690653060


9/11 smoking guns

Don't believe me check out the facts for yourself

1. NORAD (North American Arospace Defence Command) stood down on 9/11 because they were running a drill of hijacked jets flying into the world trade center and pentagon.at the exact same time it was occuring in the real world.

2. The Twin Towers were brought down in what apeared to be a controled demolition. when you watch video of the collapse you can see what appears to be blast points or squibs going off in a controled fashion.

3. Jet fuel can not melt steel. Jet fuel is kerocine and only burns at 1500 degrees tops. steal doesn't begin to weaken until after 2000 degrees of temperature, at about 2500 degrees it becomes red hot, and at 3000 degrees starts to melt. No steel building in history has ever collapsed from fire.

4. Building 7 which was never hit by a plane mysteriously callapsed later in the afternoon on 9/11. Building 7 only had a few small fires in it but it somehow callapsed. Later on a PBS documentory America Rebuilding the owner of the trade center Larry Silverstien admited on TV that he blew up building 7

5. All of the supposed hijackers had their houses, cars, and credit cards paid for by the U.S. Government and some were living with FBI informants. They where in reality agents taking part in a drill.

6. Two months prior to 9/11 Osama Bin Ladin was treated at the American hospital in dubei pakistan where it has been confirmed that hie met with the local head of the CIA.

7. Public officials were warned prior to 9/11 not to travel to New York. These include Juhn Aschroft the attorny Generl who stopped flying commerical citing a hijack risk. Mayor Willy Brown of San Fransisco was warned by the whitehous not to fly to New York on the day of 9/11. Auther Salman Ruschti was warned by the FAA not to fly to New York on the day of 9/11. They even publicly banned him from flying. oh and yes the joint chiefs of staff had a scheduled meeting in New York City on the day of 9/11 but canceled their trip at the last minute.

8. Prior to 9/11 President Bush signed executive order W199i telling the FBI to back off Osama Bin Ladin and Al Qeida. He even fired agents that woulden't follow their orders.

9. on 9/11 there where a record number of put options placed on american and united airlines stock. A put option is a bet that a stock will fall.

10. The Bin Ladin Confession tape with the fat Bin Ladin has been proven to be a fake. The person in that tape who confessed to carriying out 9/11 was not Osama Bin Ladin.


Historical examples of goverment sponsered terrorism

again don't take my word for it check out the facts yourself

1. November 27 1933, Documents uncovered from nazi archives as well as testimonies from the Nerimberg Trials clearly admit that on the night of November 27, 1933 Adolf Hitler Burned the Reichstag Government building to the grownd and blamed it on his political enemies

2. August 31, 1939: Adolf Hitler watned to invade poland but did not want to look like the aggressor. so the nazis took a polish prisonor from one of the concentration camps, dress him in a polish uniform, and took him to the twon of Glywits on the german poland border and shot him. The nazis then bombed a german radio station and blamed it on the polish saying that they had captured a dead polish solder as proof. Hitler then had his excuse to envade Poland.

3. 1953: Operartion Ajax. The CIA working with Mi6 (british intelligence) overthrew the elected leader of Iran Dr. Mohomad Mosedeque. Mosedeque had been educated in the west and was pro america. unfortunately he denied britsh patroliam a monopoly on iran's oil feilds. The CIA has actually declassified most of operation ajax detailing how they carried out terror attacks in order to blame it on mosedeque to get control of irans oil fields. They brag about how they machine guned crowds, bombed the homes of prominant religous leaders, and then distributed handbills saying "up with Mosedeque, up with communisom, down allah". Dr. Mosedeque was then incarcerated for the duration of his life for crimes that were commited by CIA and Mi6 and a new puppet government was installed.

4. 1943-1983: Operation Gladio was an umbrella name for hundreds of bombings that were carried out by western intelligence agencies and NATO all over the middle east, europe, and aisa, Several italian presidents have gone public claiming that operation Gladio was targeted at innocent civilians and children and was to blamed on communists. On November 22 1990 the European parliment passed a resolution condomning the acts of operation gladio.

5. 1964 The Gulf of Tonken In the summer of 1964 President Lindon B. Johnson needed a pretext to commit the american people to the expanding covert war in south east asia. So the Gulf of Tonken incodent was staged claiming that vietnameze patrol boats had a attacked a U.S. destroyer off the coast of Vietnam. This staged incodent paved the way for 58,000 american deaths and over 1.500.000 vietnamize

6. 1962 Operation Northwoods In 1962 chairman of the Joint Chiefs of staff L. L. Leminser came up with a plan to stage false flag operations as a pretext to invade cuba. The documents have now been declassified and were reported on by ABC News back in 2000. In operation nortwoods they discussed how they could stage the shootdown of airliners full of vacationing college students, stage sniper attacks in D.C. or Miami, have friendly cubans attack the marine corps base at quantamino bay, or even blow up a ship like they did to get into the spanish american war. Furtunately President Kennedy was not amused by northwoods and had Leminser removed as chairman of the joint chiefs of staff.

7. June 8, 1967 During the 6 day war between Isreal and the Arab Nations Presiden Lindon B Johnson sends the U.S.S liberty to collect electronic intelligenc in the eastern mediterainian. The clearly marked U.S. ship was 14 miles off the coast of Isreal in international waters. Isreali aircraft cleary identified the ship as an american vessel and an ally. At 2:00 pm that afternoon the U.S.S. Liberty was attacked by two unmarked mirage 3 fighter bombers The U.S.S. liberty was then attacked by three Israli torpedo boats bearing Isreali flags. The torpedo boats opened fire with high caliber machine guns and launched torpedos. The torpedo boats then began strafing life rafts in the water, an international war crime. During the attack the U.S.S. Liberty continually called the 6th fleet which was nearby begging for air support. Two groups of fighter aircraft were sent to defend the Libery but unbelievably they were recalled by the whitehouse. The Admiral in Command of the sixth fleet called washington to confirm the recall order. Secretary of defense Macnimara came on the line followed by the president himself who told the Adimiral "I want that G D Ship going to the bottum" Finally after 3 hours into the attack a russian spy ship apeared so the isrealies withdrew because there were witnesses allowing the Liberty to limp home to safety. Here is what really took place. President Johnson had personal control over the ship, made a backroom deal with Isreal to atttack it with an order to kill everyone onboard. Then the attack was to be blamed on egypt and U.S. would enter the war and take over the entire middle east

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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 05:39 PM
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6. perhaps a repost?
welcome to DU reaper66!!!

you might want to repost your reply in the 9/11 forum: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=125

we're not usually allowed to discuss 9/11 issues in GDP ... i'm trying to keep the focus of this thread to the very narrow issue described in the Washington Post ... thanks ...
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